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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 11.36am

You see! We'll be fine after Brexit because kind Mr Trump, the US President, will offer us a really excellent trade deal based on massive tariffs designed to protect US jobs


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 27 Sep 17 11.39am

Originally posted by nickgusset

You see! We'll be fine after Brexit because kind Mr Trump, the US President, will offer us a really excellent trade deal based on massive tariffs designed to protect US jobs


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You are so right a 'trade deal' with the USA will be a nightmare.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 27 Sep 17 11.55am

I'm planting daffodil bulbs today at the front of the house. At election times, we are plagued by Liberals knocking on the door urging us to subjugate our parliamentary democracy to the unelected EU Commission. To perhaps deter them, I'm arranging the bulbs in such a way so that when they flower they will spell out 'Heil Hitler'.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

chris123 Flag hove actually 27 Sep 17 12.04pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

You see! We'll be fine after Brexit because kind Mr Trump, the US President, will offer us a really excellent trade deal based on massive tariffs designed to protect US jobs


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Bombardier are Canadian and are not operating in the same market as Boeing - and not sure on the legality of a number from the Department of Commerce.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 27 Sep 17 12.23pm

If the USA wants protectionism and their old coal fires let them.

Stay in the EU advancing and in tune with the times.

 

davenotamonkey Flag 27 Sep 17 12.59pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

It is interesting that when the s***show that is the government's carrying out of withdrawal is brought up the thread fills with anti immigration rhetoric and ad hominem attacks rather than the minutae of Brexit itself.

I wonder why.

I've long since given up engaging with people like you on here. I prefer to watch from the side and snigg3r at you frustrated remainiacs going through the 7 stages.

And, as for the "s***show", you've clearly not read the Varoufakis reveal of how the EU deals with "dissenting states", including "information campaigns" exactly like the ones you guzzle down to sake your unquenchable thirst for anti-Brexit confirmation bias.

Yup, less than impressed with how May (a remainer, after all) is dealing with our departure, but I thank the stars above it isn't PM Corbyn dealing with it. Beyond that, I'll just be glad we're out, assuming we are actually going to leave, and not just in name.

Edited by davenotamonkey (27 Sep 2017 1.05pm)

 

europalace Flag Europe 27 Sep 17 2.06pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

I've long since given up engaging with people like you on here. I prefer to watch from the side and snigg3r at you frustrated remainiacs going through the 7 stages.

And, as for the "s***show", you've clearly not read the Varoufakis reveal of how the EU deals with "dissenting states", including "information campaigns" exactly like the ones you guzzle down to sake your unquenchable thirst for anti-Brexit confirmation bias.

Yup, less than impressed with how May (a remainer, after all) is dealing with our departure, but I thank the stars above it isn't PM Corbyn dealing with it. Beyond that, I'll just be glad we're out, assuming we are actually going to leave, and not just in name.

Edited by davenotamonkey (27 Sep 2017 1.05pm)

You seem to admire Varoufakis, here's what he's been saying:

"Former Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis told the leadership of the U.K. Labour Party to adopt a “radical Remain” stance on Brexit" - supporting remain.

"He said he told them the U.K. “would expend huge amounts of economic and political capital in pursuing withdrawal,” adding: “We can be critical of the EU without seeking to leave it.” - supporting remain again

"“It’s a sad day when the Labour Party is defending the end of free movement and, indeed, promising its end,” he said, but added: “By proposing a genuine transitional period, Labour has shown greater political initiative and seriousness than Theresa May. To maximize this advantage, Corbyn and McDonnell must continue to develop an alternative vision of Brexit.” - he supports freedom of movement of people

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Well, that's backfired on you hasn't it? No doubt we'll see you ignore all of this, keep your fingers stuck in your ears and keep on whistling.

Edited by europalace (27 Sep 2017 2.07pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 27 Sep 17 2.28pm

Originally posted by europalace

You seem to admire Varoufakis, here's what he's been saying:

Edited by europalace (27 Sep 2017 2.07pm)

So if you admire Varoufakis you have to agree with everything he says. Not really an adult way of looking at things is it.

The UK staying in the EU is better for Greece. I wouldn't expect him to say anything else on that score.

 


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davenotamonkey Flag 27 Sep 17 2.56pm

Originally posted by europalace

You seem to admire Varoufakis, here's what he's been saying:

"Former Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis told the leadership of the U.K. Labour Party to adopt a “radical Remain” stance on Brexit" - supporting remain.

"He said he told them the U.K. “would expend huge amounts of economic and political capital in pursuing withdrawal,” adding: “We can be critical of the EU without seeking to leave it.” - supporting remain again

"“It’s a sad day when the Labour Party is defending the end of free movement and, indeed, promising its end,” he said, but added: “By proposing a genuine transitional period, Labour has shown greater political initiative and seriousness than Theresa May. To maximize this advantage, Corbyn and McDonnell must continue to develop an alternative vision of Brexit.” - he supports freedom of movement of people

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Well, that's backfired on you hasn't it? No doubt we'll see you ignore all of this, keep your fingers stuck in your ears and keep on whistling.

Edited by europalace (27 Sep 2017 2.07pm)

No. Really, no. It hasn't. As a grown up, I'm able to distinguish between someone's political views and their experiences negotiating under a similar capacity to those currently doing so under HMgov.

I neither agree with nor admire Varoufakis' political views, but I do find his commentary on the tactics deployed by the EU very informative. One can hold such position, you see.

Meanwhile, you've amply demonstrated why I don't bother contributing on here.

Now, off you f***.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 27 Sep 17 3.17pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

No. Really, no. It hasn't. As a grown up, I'm able to distinguish between someone's political views and their experiences negotiating under a similar capacity to those currently doing so under HMgov.

I neither agree with nor admire Varoufakis' political views, but I do find his commentary on the tactics deployed by the EU very informative. One can hold such position, you see.

Meanwhile, you've amply demonstrated why I don't bother contributing on here.

Now, off you f***.

Au contraire Mr Not a Monkey the real reason you don't burden us like you used to with your Roget's Theosaurus of brexit lies is because you are a complete t****r and have been found out.

Touchez

 

europalace Flag Europe 27 Sep 17 3.31pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

No. Really, no. It hasn't. As a grown up, I'm able to distinguish between someone's political views and their experiences negotiating under a similar capacity to those currently doing so under HMgov.

I neither agree with nor admire Varoufakis' political views, but I do find his commentary on the tactics deployed by the EU very informative. One can hold such position, you see.

Meanwhile, you've amply demonstrated why I don't bother contributing on here.

Now, off you f***.

Haha, game, set and match

 

elgrande Flag bedford 27 Sep 17 3.45pm

Originally posted by europalace

Haha, game, set and match

O do f*** off back to your corrupt little island.did you buy a right to live in Malta . Probably the most corrupt country in the eu..and that's a big lot to choose from.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 3.54pm

Originally posted by elgrande

O do f*** off back to your corrupt little island.did you buy a right to live in Malta . Probably the most corrupt country in the eu..and that's a big lot to choose from.

You can't fashion a counter argument so you diss where he lives. How adult.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 27 Sep 17 3.58pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

You can't fashion a counter argument so you diss where he lives. How adult.

You are probably the least adult person on this website. So admonitions from you on maturity are hilarious.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 Sep 17 4.00pm

europalace, I think you'll find although Corbyn may be against 'free' movement, he's not against movement of labour. He says there's still likely to be a lot. He's more against movement of Labour driving down living standards of British people in Britain. Do you oppose that because emigrating worked for you?

Or is it because you just agree with anything the EU does, regardless of what it is?

 


COYP

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 Sep 17 4.02pm

Originally posted by elgrande

O do f*** off back to your corrupt little island.did you buy a right to live in Malta . Probably the most corrupt country in the eu..and that's a big lot to choose from.

I think he's in Austria now. Got very uppity about his flag on show at the weekend.

 


COYP

europalace Flag Europe 27 Sep 17 4.20pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I think he's in Austria now. Got very uppity about his flag on show at the weekend.

Wow, you do tell porky pies don't you? You were talking about me living in Malta and never going to any matches. I replied that my cost of going to 4 or 5 matches a year was around £2500, which is actually more than a season ticket and I bet more than you 'invest' (you called it 'inviolvement' in supporting the club. I also pointed out your lack of basic geography because my username has an Austrian flag next to it. Nothing 'uppity' at all, just pointing out facts that you couldn't then reply to, a bit like our monkey friend here

Look, here, just for you:

Originally posted by europalace

Really? Wow you know everything about my movements. I attend 4 or 5 matches a season, each trip costing at least €600, so in total that's more than £2500 of 'involvement' in a year. How 'involved' do you get every year and how long does it take you to get to a match and back home?

Regarding Malta, you're not very good at geography are you? Take a look at the flag on my username

Edited by europalace (27 Sep 2017 4.24pm)

 

davenotamonkey Flag 27 Sep 17 4.41pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Au contraire Mr Not a Monkey the real reason you don't burden us like you used to with your Roget's Theosaurus of brexit lies is because you are a complete t****r and have been found out.

Touchez

Is that some kind of dinosaur? Maybe not. Maybe it's a fancy word I've never come across. Perhaps I should go and check if it has any synonyms in a thesaurus.

Yes, I've been totally "found out". Quite what I've been "found out" about is anyone's guess. I'm not sure I care either way. You and your gang are blinkered, abusive and baiting. I have better things to do with my time than indulge you.

Edited by davenotamonkey (27 Sep 2017 4.42pm)

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 27 Sep 17 5.11pm

The European parliament’s Brexit coordinator has warned the home secretary that Britain’s recent treatment of foreign nationals could “colour” MEPs’ attitudes to whether they approve a future Brexit deal.

I think it already has, and that is the main reason for the delay.

The EU parliament is not represented at the negotiations, much to their annoyance, but they have the final say.

Mrs May and Rudd's treatment of EU nationals is an utter disgrace.

Never thought my country would be like this.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 5.15pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The European parliament’s Brexit coordinator has warned the home secretary that Britain’s recent treatment of foreign nationals could “colour” MEPs’ attitudes to whether they approve a future Brexit deal.

I think it already has, and that is the main reason for the delay.

The EU parliament is not represented at the negotiations, much to their annoyance, but they have the final say.

Mrs May and Rudd's treatment of EU nationals is an utter disgrace.

Never thought my country would be like this.

The fascists are in carpet slippers not Jack boots.

 

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