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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Aug 23 11.26am

Originally posted by NEILLO

I don’t need to re-read.

If I deem something as costing too much / more than it’s worth then in my book that’s expensive. You’re splitting hairs, I assume because you have found to be totally incorrect and uninformed about how PEP accounts are monitored.

We established quite some time ago now that Coutts had the right to make their decision. Continued repetition of that is superfluous

You may think that accuracy is “splitting hairs”. I don’t. Expensive simply means costing a lot. Costing more than it’s worth is about value.

You have provided interesting and undoubtedly accurate information about the way PEP accounts were handled within your own experience. Whether true of this event is unknown. All of which is a sideshow.

Repetition of the fact that this was always Coutts decision to make, thus making all the indignation and outrage rather pointless, certainly ought to be unnecessary.

Unfortunately when others continue to post the indignation and outrage, it isn’t.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 Aug 23 12.07pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

I don’t need to re-read.

If I deem something as costing too much / more than it’s worth then in my book that’s expensive. You’re splitting hairs, I assume because you have found to be totally incorrect and uninformed about how PEP accounts are monitored.

We established quite some time ago now that Coutts had the right to make their decision. Continued repetition of that is superfluous

Agree

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Aug 23 1.35pm


Seems to be happening in America too.


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Aug 23 2.05pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Seems to be happening in America too.


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I posted this very thing but will Biden and his team want it dealt with a year before an election. Maybe it suits to have trump sponsors with no money.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 Aug 23 2.11pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I posted this very thing but will Biden and his team want it dealt with a year before an election. Maybe it suits to have trump sponsors with no money.

The Democrats can then complain that Trump is getting cash from dodgy sources.

 


One more point

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Aug 23 10.52pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Seems to be happening in America too.


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Is this surprising?

The same considerations apply and just so long as there is no discrimination and any such decision is taken solely on that which is regarded to be in the bank’s best interests why on earth should anyone protest?

It’s their right to take such decisions. If a bank decided to drop any account held by those of a particular political persuasion then there would be legitimate questions to answer. If the reason is their view of the impact on the bank of the views of specific categories of people then there aren’t.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Aug 23 11.02pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Is this surprising?

The same considerations apply and just so long as there is no discrimination and any such decision is taken solely on that which is regarded to be in the bank’s best interests why on earth should anyone protest?

It’s their right to take such decisions. If a bank decided to drop any account held by those of a particular political persuasion then there would be legitimate questions to answer. If the reason is their view of the impact on the bank of the views of specific categories of people then there aren’t.

Not surprising that the article mentions political discrimination, no.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 23 8.24am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not surprising that the article mentions political discrimination, no.

No it isn’t. Discriminating between politians and those who aren’t so exposed could make sense. Discriminating between particular opinions on the sole basis of an opinion, not so.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 09 Aug 23 9.09am

It's not surprising to see UK banks behaving in this way.

As for the BOE, it is a root cause, with its stone-age pocket-lining economic policies, of the zero growth and investment in the UK since 2010.

Incessant interest rate rises are themselves inflationary, how could they not be, and they depress the economy forcing it into recession.

Inflation was forecast to fall to 6.5% by the end of this year before Sunak and all these tax and BOE interest hikes.

Its time to curb their excesses and bring them into line, as the new Italian government is doing.

To think they blame the very people they have damaged, wage earners, not themselves, for the UKs problems.


 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Aug 23 9.31am

Originally posted by steeleye20

It's not surprising to see UK banks behaving in this way.

As for the BOE, it is a root cause, with its stone-age pocket-lining economic policies, of the zero growth and investment in the UK since 2010.

Incessant interest rate rises are themselves inflationary, how could they not be, and they depress the economy forcing it into recession.

Inflation was forecast to fall to 6.5% by the end of this year before Sunak and all these tax and BOE interest hikes.

Its time to curb their excesses and bring them into line, as the new Italian government is doing.

To think they blame the very people they have damaged, wage earners, not themselves, for the UKs problems.


2 billion quid won’t go far bearing in mind our gdp is 2 trillion. Just tax the share holders is such an easy thing to do. Many have pensions invested in these banks via their providers. Never mind though as that value drops. Sod em eh!
How’s your philanthropy going ?

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 09 Aug 23 9.58am

The BoE has been unfit for purpose for years through incompetence and multiple forecasts of growth and inflation have been wrong.

Their staff earn big numbers and seems can just bowl along doing a rubbish job without fear of consequences.

Better have a proper economist like Liam Halligan making decisions.

Edited by HKOwen (09 Aug 2023 9.58am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Aug 23 10.09am

Originally posted by HKOwen

The BoE has been unfit for purpose for years through incompetence and multiple forecasts of growth and inflation have been wrong.

Their staff earn big numbers and seems can just bowl along doing a rubbish job without fear of consequences.

Better have a proper economist like Liam Halligan making decisions.

Edited by HKOwen (09 Aug 2023 9.58am)

The Financial sector is notorious for "group think" like lemmings they all follow each other whether it's buying junk bonds leading to the 2008 crash or forecasting which the BOE and pretty most other bodies get wrong.

 


One more point

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 09 Aug 23 12.23pm

Rather than use the so called experts to predict future financial situations you might as well use animals, like Paul, the oracle octopus, who correctly predicted 12 out 0f 14 World Cup games in 2010. (After the quarter-final prediction when Paul correctly predicted that Argentina would lose to Germany, the South Americans threatened to kill the octopus and put him in a paella.)

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 23 12.30pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No it isn’t. Discriminating between politians and those who aren’t so exposed could make sense. Discriminating between particular opinions on the sole basis of an opinion, not so.

Nope. Didn't get a word of that.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 23 1.55pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Nope. Didn't get a word of that.

Not even the no?

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 23 3.05pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not even the no?

That got lost in the forest of obscurantism.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 23 4.52pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That got lost in the forest of obscurantism.

As it was the first statement it is in plain view and not the least bit lost.

I also believe you understand perfectly well the point being made.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 23 5.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As it was the first statement it is in plain view and not the least bit lost.

I also believe you understand perfectly well the point being made.

Oh, there was a point. OK, that's something to work with anyway.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 09 Aug 23 6.04pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Oh, there was a point. OK, that's something to work with anyway.

"A mass of Latin words falls upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outline and covering up all the details. The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink. In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics'. All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred, and schizophrenia. When the general atmosphere is bad, language must suffer." [Orwell]

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Aug 23 6.27pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

It's not surprising to see UK banks behaving in this way.

As for the BOE, it is a root cause, with its stone-age pocket-lining economic policies, of the zero growth and investment in the UK since 2010.

Incessant interest rate rises are themselves inflationary, how could they not be, and they depress the economy forcing it into recession.

Inflation was forecast to fall to 6.5% by the end of this year before Sunak and all these tax and BOE interest hikes.

Its time to curb their excesses and bring them into line, as the new Italian government is doing.

To think they blame the very people they have damaged, wage earners, not themselves, for the UKs problems.


Is that the same BOE who were totally anti Brexit and have done their utmost to scupper it? Surely you support them?

 

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