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Stirlingsays 30 Sep 17 2.48am
Originally posted by nickgusset Name and shame then. Anti semetism needs to be rooted out. Well, you will never find it if you can't even spell it will you, dear boy. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

30 Sep 17 2.48am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Name and shame then. Anti semetism needs to be rooted out.

Well, you will never find it if you can't even spell it will you, dear boy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

hedgehog50 Croydon 30 Sep 17 7.34am
Originally posted by nickgusset Name and shame then. Anti semetism needs to be rooted out. Meetings at the 'Conference' called for the Jewish Labour Movement and Labour Friends of Israel to be 'kicked out' of the party. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 30 Sep 17 7.34am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Name and shame then. Anti semetism needs to be rooted out.

Meetings at the 'Conference' called for the Jewish Labour Movement and Labour Friends of Israel to be 'kicked out' of the party.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 11.02am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Meetings at the 'Conference' called for the Jewish Labour Movement and Labour Friends of Israel to be 'kicked out' of the party. How many people called for this? One , two, hundreds?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 11.02am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Meetings at the 'Conference' called for the Jewish Labour Movement and Labour Friends of Israel to be 'kicked out' of the party.

How many people called for this? One , two, hundreds?

Hrolf The Ganger 30 Sep 17 11.25am
Originally posted by nickgusset How many people called for this? One , two, hundreds? Who specifically called for it is the more important question. I have long held the belief that with influx of other religions, they would just start their pathetic squabbles here the same as where they come from. THe Labour party is a perfect environment for that to kick off. We will see this wonderful multi culture for what it really is. Humans doing what they do best.

Hrolf The Ganger

30 Sep 17 11.25am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How many people called for this? One , two, hundreds?

Who specifically called for it is the more important question.

I have long held the belief that with influx of other religions, they would just start their pathetic squabbles here the same as where they come from. THe Labour party is a perfect environment for that to kick off.
We will see this wonderful multi culture for what it really is. Humans doing what they do best.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 11.28am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Who specifically called for it is the more important question. I have long held the belief that with influx of other religions, they would just start their pathetic squabbles here the same as where they come from. THe Labour party is a perfect environment for that to kick off. We will see this wonderful multi culture for what it really is. Humans doing what they do best. at many conference fringe meetings you get one or two eejits that try and put through a silly resolution. Was the resolution carried? No.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 11.28am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Who specifically called for it is the more important question.

at many conference fringe meetings you get one or two eejits that try and put through a silly resolution.
Was the resolution carried? No.

Hrolf The Ganger 30 Sep 17 11.34am
Originally posted by nickgusset at many conference fringe meetings you get one or two eejits that try and put through a silly resolution. Was the resolution carried? No. So who was it?

Hrolf The Ganger

30 Sep 17 11.34am

Originally posted by nickgusset

at many conference fringe meetings you get one or two eejits that try and put through a silly resolution.
Was the resolution carried? No.

So who was it?

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 11.37am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So who was it? Dunno. What s it got to do with the EU?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 11.37am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So who was it?

Dunno.

What s it got to do with the EU?

Hrolf The Ganger 30 Sep 17 11.40am
Originally posted by nickgusset Dunno. What s it got to do with the EU? Fair point. The threads get a bit mixed up. I will ask you on the Labour thread.

Hrolf The Ganger

30 Sep 17 11.40am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Dunno.

What s it got to do with the EU?

Fair point. The threads get a bit mixed up.

I will ask you on the Labour thread.

davenotamonkey 30 Sep 17 11.59am
Originally posted by nickgusset How many people called for this? One , two, hundreds? Here is a list of parliamentary members of the "Labour Friends of Palestine & the Middle East": [Link] Some big names in there. This group publicly offered a "final solution" (their words) to the issue of Israel. So far the only MP I've seen condemn it, John Mann, is not a member. Any others? I'll assume, given the tacit silence of the other members, they do not object to the phrase. Do we remember the evisceration of Katy Hopkins when she used the same phrase? More than anything, it's the utter hypocrisy I detest. But, as Nick rightly says, this is a topic apart from the EU.

davenotamonkey

30 Sep 17 11.59am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How many people called for this? One , two, hundreds?

Here is a list of parliamentary members of the "Labour Friends of Palestine & the Middle East":

[Link]

Some big names in there.

This group publicly offered a "final solution" (their words) to the issue of Israel. So far the only MP I've seen condemn it, John Mann, is not a member. Any others?

I'll assume, given the tacit silence of the other members, they do not object to the phrase. Do we remember the evisceration of Katy Hopkins when she used the same phrase? More than anything, it's the utter hypocrisy I detest.

But, as Nick rightly says, this is a topic apart from the EU.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 9.46pm
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 9.51pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Here is a list of parliamentary members of the "Labour Friends of Palestine & the Middle East": [Link] Some big names in there. This group publicly offered a "final solution" (their words) to the issue of Israel. So far the only MP I've seen condemn it, John Mann, is not a member. Any others? I'll assume, given the tacit silence of the other members, they do not object to the phrase. Do we remember the evisceration of Katy Hopkins when she used the same phrase? More than anything, it's the utter hypocrisy I detest. But, as Nick rightly says, this is a topic apart from the EU. Doesn't tell us how many people want the Jewish labour section to go? I reckon no more than 15. Do you know what the aims of are? Are you (and others) raking up the anti semetism thing because the Labour conference went well and you can't think of any critiques of policy. Lots of apologies online for the final solution gaffe if you look.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 9.51pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Here is a list of parliamentary members of the "Labour Friends of Palestine & the Middle East":

[Link]

Some big names in there.

This group publicly offered a "final solution" (their words) to the issue of Israel. So far the only MP I've seen condemn it, John Mann, is not a member. Any others?

But, as Nick rightly says, this is a topic apart from the EU.

Doesn't tell us how many people want the Jewish labour section to go?
I reckon no more than 15.
Do you know what the aims of are?
Are you (and others) raking up the anti semetism thing because the Labour conference went well and you can't think of any critiques of policy.

Lots of apologies online for the final solution gaffe if you look.

hedgehog50 Croydon 30 Sep 17 9.58pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Doesn't tell us how many people want the Jewish labour section to go? I reckon no more than 15. Do you know what the aims of are? Are you (and others) raking up the anti semetism thing because the Labour conference went well and you can't think of any critiques of policy. Lots of apologies online for the final solution gaffe if you look. How do you arrive at a figure of 15? A conference can 'go well' when you stop debate of the most pressing issue taking place. Meetings of the Supreme Soviet used to go well - standing ovations nearly as long as those for Comrade Corbyn. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 30 Sep 17 9.58pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Lots of apologies online for the final solution gaffe if you look.

How do you arrive at a figure of 15?
A conference can 'go well' when you stop debate of the most pressing issue taking place. Meetings of the Supreme Soviet used to go well - standing ovations nearly as long as those for Comrade Corbyn.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 10.10pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 How do you arrive at a figure of 15? A conference can 'go well' when you stop debate of the most pressing issue taking place. Meetings of the Supreme Soviet used to go well - standing ovations nearly as long as those for Comrade Corbyn. What debate was stopped?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 10.10pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What debate was stopped?

hedgehog50 Croydon 30 Sep 17 10.17pm
Originally posted by nickgusset What debate was stopped? EU of course - as you well know. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 30 Sep 17 10.17pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What debate was stopped?

EU of course - as you well know.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 10.36pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 EU of course - as you well know. They did debate the EU. There wasn't a motion for the reasons discussed at the time in the relevant thread. Blimey. It's hard debating with the uninformed.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 30 Sep 17 10.36pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

EU of course - as you well know.

They did debate the EU. There wasn't a motion for the reasons discussed at the time in the relevant thread.

Blimey. It's hard debating with the uninformed.

hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Oct 17 10.04am
Originally posted by nickgusset They did debate the EU. There wasn't a motion for the reasons discussed at the time in the relevant thread. Blimey. It's hard debating with the uninformed. As you well know, there was no meaningful debate on the EU and the Red Guards (Momentum) ensured that there would be no vote on Brexit. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 01 Oct 17 10.04am

Originally posted by nickgusset

They did debate the EU. There wasn't a motion for the reasons discussed at the time in the relevant thread.

Blimey. It's hard debating with the uninformed.

As you well know, there was no meaningful debate on the EU and the Red Guards (Momentum) ensured that there would be no vote on Brexit.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 10.19am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 As you well know, there was no meaningful debate on the EU and the Red Guards (Momentum) ensured that there would be no vote on Brexit. What do you expect the motion for this vote to say?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 10.19am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

As you well know, there was no meaningful debate on the EU and the Red Guards (Momentum) ensured that there would be no vote on Brexit.

What do you expect the motion for this vote to say?

hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Oct 17 10.31am
Originally posted by nickgusset What do you expect the motion for this vote to say? That Brexit is all a Jewish bankers conspiracy? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 01 Oct 17 10.31am

Originally posted by nickgusset

What do you expect the motion for this vote to say?

That Brexit is all a Jewish bankers conspiracy?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 10.40am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 That Brexit is all a Jewish bankers conspiracy? Seriously. You moan they didn't debate Brexit when they did. I think you are being deliberately obtuse for a change.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 10.40am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

That Brexit is all a Jewish bankers conspiracy?

Seriously. You moan they didn't debate Brexit when they did. I think you are being deliberately obtuse for a change.

hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Oct 17 11.49am
Originally posted by nickgusset Seriously. You moan they didn't debate Brexit when they did. I think you are being deliberately obtuse for a change. "Jeremy Corbyn avoided an embarrassing row on Sunday over Labour’s position on the single market and free movement after party members voted to exclude Brexit from a series of debates at the party’s annual conference." (Guardian) "Labour MP John Mann has criticised the lack of debate at the party's conference in Brighton - and said it is "reminiscent" of when Tony Blair was in charge. The MP for Bassetlaw told ITV News that "controversial debates like Brexit" were being avoided because "Jeremy's clearly preparing for power". Labour divisions over Europe erupted after conference delegates agreed not to push the issue of Brexit to a vote. The decision meant Jeremy Corbyn avoided a divisive clash over Labour's Brexit policy on the conference floor. (ITV) Pro-Remain MPs have been left furious after Labour conference delegates voted NOT to debate Brexit . Jeremy Corbyn was spared the possibility of delegates voting for a thorny, and potentially embarrassing, policy change to stay in the single market permanently. But the vote met with a furious reaction from pro-EU Labour MP Chris Leslie, who tweeted: "No Brexit vote at conference?! How utterly ridiculous. Many members will be shocked at manoeuvring to avoid biggest issue of our time". Heidi Alexander, of the Labour campaign for the single market, added: "I am gobsmacked. How can Labour not have a full & proper debate on Brexit policy? We will be a laughing stock." (Daily Mirror) How can Labour call itself a government-in-waiting when it refuses to debate Brexit? (Independant) Labour's decision not to debate Brexit shows Momentum's power. The pro-Corbyn group ensured the divisive issues of single market membership and free movement were kept off the agenda. (New Statesman) We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 01 Oct 17 11.49am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Seriously. You moan they didn't debate Brexit when they did. I think you are being deliberately obtuse for a change.

"Jeremy Corbyn avoided an embarrassing row on Sunday over Labour’s position on the single market and free movement after party members voted to exclude Brexit from a series of debates at the party’s annual conference." (Guardian)

"Labour MP John Mann has criticised the lack of debate at the party's conference in Brighton - and said it is "reminiscent" of when Tony Blair was in charge.
The MP for Bassetlaw told ITV News that "controversial debates like Brexit" were being avoided because "Jeremy's clearly preparing for power".
Labour divisions over Europe erupted after conference delegates agreed not to push the issue of Brexit to a vote.
The decision meant Jeremy Corbyn avoided a divisive clash over Labour's Brexit policy on the conference floor. (ITV)
Pro-Remain MPs have been left furious after Labour conference delegates voted NOT to debate Brexit .
Jeremy Corbyn was spared the possibility of delegates voting for a thorny, and potentially embarrassing, policy change to stay in the single market permanently.
But the vote met with a furious reaction from pro-EU Labour MP Chris Leslie, who tweeted: "No Brexit vote at conference?! How utterly ridiculous. Many members will be shocked at manoeuvring to avoid biggest issue of our time".
Heidi Alexander, of the Labour campaign for the single market, added: "I am gobsmacked. How can Labour not have a full & proper debate on Brexit policy? We will be a laughing stock." (Daily Mirror)

How can Labour call itself a government-in-waiting when it refuses to debate Brexit? (Independant)

Labour's decision not to debate Brexit shows Momentum's power. The pro-Corbyn group ensured the divisive issues of single market membership and free movement were kept off the agenda. (New Statesman)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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