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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Oct 17 10.15am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Nick, when are you going to volunteer to house share with 19 Romanians (almost came out as romantics) and room share with 4 or 5 Romanians? If it's the way to go and they make it work, when's your turn?

I've house shared with Australians. Never house sharing again.

This made me chuckle

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Oct 17 12.30pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I've house shared with Australians. Never house sharing again.

This made me chuckle

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No. We had time to think about that and chose Brexit.
Now scumbag self interested politicians and people who can't handle the referendum result want to worm their way out of it.
If that were to happen, we would finally know that democracy was an illusion.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Oct 17 1.17pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I've house shared with Australians. Never house sharing again.

This made me chuckle

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Well when we have the Corbyn government, no doubt larger houses will be requisitioned and crammed with people - like the scene in Dr. Zhivago when he comes home.


Edited by hedgehog50 (10 Oct 2017 1.17pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Oct 17 6.56pm

IMF say global outlook looking good. Except in Britain.

FT article. [Link]

 

elgrande Flag bedford 10 Oct 17 6.59pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

IMF say global outlook looking good. Except in Britain.

FT article. [Link]

Is that the same people who said we would be doomed if we didn't change to the Euro.

 


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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 10 Oct 17 7.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

IMF say global outlook looking good. Except in Britain.

FT article. [Link]

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Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 10 Oct 17 7.44pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

IMF say global outlook looking good. Except in Britain.

FT article. [Link]

The IMF and FT are both staunch remainers!

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 10 Oct 17 7.45pm

 

Stirlingsays Flag 10 Oct 17 7.51pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Well when we have the Corbyn government, no doubt larger houses will be requisitioned and crammed with people - like the scene in Dr. Zhivago when he comes home.


Edited by hedgehog50 (10 Oct 2017 1.17pm)

We know the population problem will worsen under a Corbyn government.

They will far more lax on immigration and while I have little doubt they will try to build more houses once they wreck the interest rate on the borrowed bonds for it that will quickly crash....just like the economy.

A part of me almost wants a Corbyn government just so all those jokers can be held to account....but then again, we all know they won't be sticking around for the criticism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Oct 2017 7.52pm)

 


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.TUX. Flag 10 Oct 17 8.41pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

IMF say global outlook looking good. Except in Britain.

FT article. [Link]

That should be all you need to know about the IMF Nick.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Oct 17 8.46pm

I've reached me non subscriber limit on the ft. What s it about

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 17 1.01am

It's like she wants to mess things up for herself on.purpose the amount of times she's fecked up.
Hands up on here who said she'd be a safe pair of hands?

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 11 Oct 17 9.15am

She is a total idiot!

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 11 Oct 17 9.31am

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's like she wants to mess things up for herself on.purpose the amount of times she's fecked up.
Hands up on here who said she'd be a safe pair of hands?

This was nothing short of an admission that she doesn't believe in her own government's Brexit strategy.

Can anyone on here explain why the Tory Breixt mob are so keen to push us towards "no deal"? I seem to recall in the referendum campaign that multiple senior figures in the leave campaign said we'd get a great deal with all the same benefits and it would be easy. Now they're all saying it's time to get ready to jump off the cliff without a parachute?

Are there any Brexit voters out there who feel that they were mis-sold? Perhaps we need a Brexit compensation scheme a la PPI. Maybe we just need to get rid of the Tories as they have shown that they can't be trusted to act in the best interests of the nation. It's a bloody mess.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 11 Oct 17 9.59am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

She is a total idiot!

I won't vote Tory with her as leader. She's a social justice warrior and a remainer to boot.

 


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npn Flag Crowborough 11 Oct 17 10.10am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Can anyone on here explain why the Tory Breixt mob are so keen to push us towards "no deal"?

Are there any Brexit voters out there who feel that they were mis-sold? It's a bloody mess.

I agree it's a mess, but if the EU want to play hardball to protect themselves from other people leaving, I really don't see what else the UK can do. It's either no deal or bend over and say "thank you Mr Junker, may I have another?"

Incidentally, I didn't vote to leave, I just can't see how you can negotiate productively with these people, so we may as well accept that it's going to be a no deal unless something fundamental changes and stop wasting everyone's time. Negotiation means nothing if you're not prepared for the contingency plan to just walk away.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 11 Oct 17 10.28am

Originally posted by npn

I agree it's a mess, but if the EU want to play hardball to protect themselves from other people leaving, I really don't see what else the UK can do. It's either no deal or bend over and say "thank you Mr Junker, may I have another?"

Incidentally, I didn't vote to leave, I just can't see how you can negotiate productively with these people, so we may as well accept that it's going to be a no deal unless something fundamental changes and stop wasting everyone's time. Negotiation means nothing if you're not prepared for the contingency plan to just walk away.

OK. How does no deal work though?

What do EU citizens here do and UK citizens in the EU?

How do planes take off and land to/from UK and EU?

How does Customs and Excise work?

How does bank passporting, AIFMD, permanent establishments of cross border businesses work?

The country would effectively be cut off with "no deal". That would be a disaster. They would need to come to a deal of some sorts as "no deal" just doesn't work.


You need some sort of deal to do even basic stuff like passport control and allowing planes to cross borders. You need some sort of deal for EU goods and UK goods to be permitted just to cross borders, let alone how they are taxed.


Everyday life for millions is being driven to hell in a handcart over the zealotry of a few ancient maniacs in the Tory party. Brexit didn't have to be a disaster and the EU weren't always going to force a no deal situation, but the Tories attitude, lack of strength and constant infighting over Europe has caused this situation.


Now it's clear that Davis is hiding information gathered on the extent of damage likely to be caused by Brexit to different industries (wonder why) and May is hiding legal opinion on the ability to reverse article 50. While we voted to leave we didn't vote for this debacle. Indeed in the most recent election there was a clear majority among the electorate against a hard Brexit (55%). May doesn't even believe in it and she's the one in charge. It's a farce and something needs to happen between now and 29 March 2019 to alter our course of direction.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 11 Oct 17 10.29am

The British Airline Passengers Association (BALPA) agrees with what Philip Hammond said about the theoretical possibility of a “no deal” Brexit stopping flights to the continent. This is what its general secretary Brian Strutton said in a statement yesterday.

The entire UK aviation sector which employs nearly a million people and carries more than 250 million passengers per annum would be devastated by a Brexit ‘no deal’.

Unlike most other sectors there are no World Trade Organisation or any other rules to fall back on for aviation if there is no deal.

UK airlines could find they have to stop flying – it’s that serious. And this would impact passengers long before March 2019 because airlines couldn’t sell advance tickets and, frankly, would passengers risk buying them?

It is utter madness for anyone to think that a Brexit ‘no deal’ would be anything but a total disaster for our world leading UK aviation sector and beyond. After all, without air cargo we will not be able to export or import freely. The entire industry has said that we have to see evidence of the post-Brexit plan for aviation now if we are to avert a catastrophic crisis of confidence.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Oct 17 10.30am

Mrs May should cancel brexit forthwith.

The damage is always repairable and our reputation as a trustworthy and reliable nation in the world restored.

The tories should clear out their deluded old has-beens and look for politicians who can connect with the lives of ordinary people.


 

Stirlingsays Flag 11 Oct 17 10.32am

Originally posted by npn

I agree it's a mess, but if the EU want to play hardball to protect themselves from other people leaving, I really don't see what else the UK can do. It's either no deal or bend over and say "thank you Mr Junker, may I have another?"

Incidentally, I didn't vote to leave, I just can't see how you can negotiate productively with these people, so we may as well accept that it's going to be a no deal unless something fundamental changes and stop wasting everyone's time. Negotiation means nothing if you're not prepared for the contingency plan to just walk away.

All common sense of course.....and in reality if Labour were in actual power they would probably agree with you.

However, it's the political lying game isn't it. For them working against the government and doing anything to promote bad outcomes is more important than actually being truthful and working together for the country's good.

Most politicians are not actually ethical people but are ruthless.....Look at happened, even with the Milibands.

Brexit should be far more important than these people's careers......But we are seeing the reality out front and centre.

 


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