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  Hrolf The Ganger  12 Oct 17 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Just the usual then.
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| .TUX. 12 Oct 17 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
Of course the UK will leave. However, it will leave on the terms & conditions set by the EU which is exactly what we have seen, are seeing and will continue to see. A very strange suicidal culture in the UK but hey ho, their choice. The other 27 nations move on. Edited by europalace (12 Oct 2017 8.47pm) To where, more debt?
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 12 Oct 17 9.03pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
No delight at all, simply posting facts as they are published in international media. If those facts aren't what you want to hear then that's your problem, no one else's but I do understand why you are so upset at seeing the UK heading for economic malaise when instead they could have remained in the EU and seen a much better economic future. here's a quote from BBC business news just 1 hour ago: "The pound also jumped against the euro following the reports in the German newspaper Handelsblatt that the EU could offer the UK a transitional Brexit deal" Edited by europalace (12 Oct 2017 8.53pm) It's fine to report the facts, even if they are from anti-Brexit media outlets. However, it's the sneering tone of your posts which make them different to other people from your camp. Many people who voted to remain, still want the UK to do well from these negotiations. You clearly don't and would be happy to see Britain sink, which is a pretty awful attitude. You didn't answer... What's your affiliation to Palace then? Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 9.04pm)
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europalace  Europe 12 Oct 17 9.05pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
To where, more debt? Certainly not, the Eurozone which makes up the greater part of the EU is booming. It's the UK that has massive debt and an economy that's in retreat compared to the EU. Everyone wants to trade with the largest trading bloc in the world which currently happens to be the EU, particularly countries such as China and Japan. Edited by europalace (12 Oct 2017 9.06pm)
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| europalace Europe 12 Oct 17 9.09pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
It's fine to report the facts, even if they are from anti-Brexit media outlets. However, it's the sneering tone of your posts which make them different to other people from your camp. Many people who voted to remain, still want the UK to do well from these negotiations. You clearly don't and would be happy to see Britain sink, which is a pretty awful attitude. You didn't answer... What's your affiliation to Palace then? Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 9.04pm)
I've been a Palace fan for decades, what about you? You're a long way from Palace, are you really a Palace fan?
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 12 Oct 17 9.14pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
I've been a Palace fan for decades, what about you? You're a long way from Palace, are you really a Palace fan? Do I have to explain to you media bias? "Angry"? I'm actually very happy the country voted for Brexit. Read over the tone of your posts, you might surprise yourself. I like Europe and wish no ill on the European countries in the bloc once the UK departs. Yeah I co-founded this website. Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 9.27pm)
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| .TUX. 12 Oct 17 9.17pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
No delight at all, simply posting facts as they are published in international media. If those facts aren't what you want to hear then that's your problem, no one else's but I do understand why you are so upset at seeing the UK heading for economic malaise when instead they could have remained in the EU and seen a much better economic future. here's a quote from BBC business news just 1 hour ago: "The pound also jumped against the euro following the reports in the German newspaper Handelsblatt that the EU could offer the UK a transitional Brexit deal" Edited by europalace (12 Oct 2017 8.53pm) The amount of DEBT the EU continues to print to prop-up the 'bloc' seems to continually pass you by. While we're here, having being the first to make this board aware of Maltas income through passport sales, another 'first' is that this country earns 10% of it's earnings through online gambling. Edited by .TUX. (12 Oct 2017 9.18pm)
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| davenotamonkey 12 Oct 17 11.43pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Proof? The utter disaster when we left the ERM, as correctly predicted. The utter disaster when we didn't join the Euro, as correctly predicted. The utter disaster when we voted to leave the EU, as correctly predicted. All the same warnings from all the same people. Wrong then, wrong now. Terrible news today about the FTSE-100 and FTSE-250 today. Both closed on all-time highs. Sigh.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Oct 17 11.54pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
The utter disaster when we left the ERM, as correctly predicted. The utter disaster when we didn't join the Euro, as correctly predicted. The utter disaster when we voted to leave the EU, as correctly predicted. All the same warnings from all the same people. Wrong then, wrong now. Terrible news today about the FTSE-100 and FTSE-250 today. Both closed on all-time highs. Sigh. Did the rise in stocks come about because the EU effective agreed to a transition period. The pound rose for this reason according to the wireless earlier.
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| davenotamonkey 13 Oct 17 12.04am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This guy is just a rather pathetic EU troll on a safe wind up from his keyboard. He presents events that most leavers are quite happy with as EU victories with as much real intelligence as a Lord Haw-Haw. I suppose he's good for the odd laugh until we leave. Not really. He claims his sneering tone is a figment of the imagination. Presumably that's our collective imagination, as I am not unique in identifying it. I genuinely think something bad happened to him here, and he harbours a grudge against the UK. Perhaps spurned by a girl (or guy). I'm not really sure I care, to be honest. He's now moved to Austria, ranked 21st largest economy in the world when it joined the EU in 1995. The EU has been so great for Austria, it is now ranked 28th in the world. I hope he's looking forward to the elections there on Sunday.
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| davenotamonkey 13 Oct 17 12.11am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Did the rise in stocks come about because the EU effective agreed to a transition period. The pound rose for this reason according to the wireless earlier. Make your mind up. The usual remainiac counter to a rising FTSE-100 is a falling pound (which is why I also included the 250). Now the index is meant to rise with the pound? Hard to keep up with the latest remainiac lines. And no, the reason the pound "rose" was that it recovered losses from earlier when Barnier was doing his FUD act as per spec from Varoufakis. You know why? Because the fundamentals didn't change.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Oct 17 12.37am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And please take Gusset with you. He talks the talk but lacks Big testicles.
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| chris123 hove actually 13 Oct 17 6.29am |
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Originally posted by europalace
Certainly not, the Eurozone which makes up the greater part of the EU is booming. It's the UK that has massive debt and an economy that's in retreat compared to the EU. Everyone wants to trade with the largest trading bloc in the world which currently happens to be the EU, particularly countries such as China and Japan. Edited by europalace (12 Oct 2017 9.06pm) The EU do not trade tariff free with China or Japan though, goods circulate freely once import tariffs have been paid, and US is the biggest investor and trader in the EU. Edited by chris123 (13 Oct 2017 6.30am)
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| europalace Europe 13 Oct 17 7.40am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Make your mind up. The usual remainiac counter to a rising FTSE-100 is a falling pound (which is why I also included the 250). Now the index is meant to rise with the pound? Hard to keep up with the latest remainiac lines. And no, the reason the pound "rose" was that it recovered losses from earlier when Barnier was doing his FUD act as per spec from Varoufakis. You know why? Because the fundamentals didn't change. The FTSE has risen when the pound weakens as it makes shares cheaper for foreign investors. When Sterling rises you will see the FTSE impacted negatively as shares become more expensive and profits are taken by foreign investors. The FTSE's rise in the last 12 months has been down to a weak Sterling. Oh, by the way, Vienna has been voted best city for quality of life in Europe for the last few years, London doesn't even make the top ten: Beautiful country with fantastic infrastructure Edited by europalace (13 Oct 2017 7.47am)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Oct 17 8.20am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
A probable consequence. One of many I fear. "The profitability of the average UK farm could fall by as much as half after Brexit, new research suggests. Boring. The worst case scenario. What about the best?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Oct 17 8.30am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
A probable consequence. One of many I fear. "The profitability of the average UK farm could fall by as much as half after Brexit, new research suggests. What do you care, most farmers vote Tory.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Oct 17 8.41am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I have always struggled to know what Brexit people did vote for, it wasn't well articulated. Lots of people talking about immigration, as though Brexit will stop that. Also about reducing bureaucracy. Well maybe but then again maybe the replacement will be a lesser focus on social welfare. After all, the whole thing has been driven throughout by individuals with a lot to gain. Not a recipe for a fairer share of the spoils in the brave new world. If the pain is worthwhile it surely won't be in my working lifetime. I doubt people realised how prolonged the agony is going to be.
The majority of people do not want the Tory idea of Brexit. The majority probably don't care too much about the EU to be honest. They just want a system that is fairer, more equal and where public services and communities are invested in and helped and not simply left to rot. Sadly the Tories have used the result for their own ends and the lack of strength in the government is actually only helping them deliver a Brexit that works for the establishment and just gives them and the already wealthy more power.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Oct 17 8.45am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
At some point....I don't know when but you are going to realise that Brexit is happening. The EU is there for you to leave for at any point. Patriotic my foot......lover of centralised undemocratic power.
If it was about sovereign powers then the areas of law and regulations currently made in Brussels would in future be made in Parliament. That's not the plan. It's for decisions to be taken unilaterally be dangerous thugs like Johnson and lunatics like Michael Gove. That's worse that the current system. It would be worse whichever party was in government. Irrespective of your political allegiances this is not what people voted for!
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