What you do or don't think is extreme isn't of any relevance.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jun 2020 10.15pm)

The fact is, from what you've said so far, these riots would seemingly carry on destroying lives until they exhausted themselves out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jun 2020 10.20pm)

Well we differ in opinion there then.

Let’s not forget we are in the middle of a pandemic first of all. Secondly, these protests, as they have historically done before, come hand in hand with mass civil disobedience, rioting, violence, wanton destruction and many other crimes.

This time round however, we have even larger numbers many of whom are not black joining in as they lack any independent thinking ability and are fuelled by left wing media and propaganda into believing they can narcissistically gain some significance in life by going out and protesting.

You are trying to equate labelling all protestors with those targeting police specifically but if they are not, what the duck are they protesting about I ask? This was a singular incident albeit tragic which has been hijacked by few for alternative motives and followed by many as a result of dim wittedness.

They’ve been warned, they know to stay at home or at least away so they will have to pay the consequences for disobeying the rule of law. I have zero sympathy

‘singular incident’? Wow, someone hasn’t been paying attention for the last few decades.

‘singular incident’? Wow, someone hasn’t been paying attention for the last few decades.

There is of course a difference between protesting a perceived injustice, and violently doing so. The former is essentially a right, the latter clearly ill advised and criminal. I agree that from a personal safety perspective though, where someone intends to peacefully protest, it's a dangerous time to do so, so I wouldn't advise it either.

The momentum of the protests is likely to crash headlong into a President not afraid to use the military against his own people who was dying to move the headlines from a newly crap economy and the Pandemic. It's something of a pre-election gift. There are many variables at play though, so time will tell whether it's assessed as such or more of a poison chalice.

Right so some cogent thoughts, I’d like to change my stance therefore as I often like to kick hornets nests.

I agree with what you’ve said here, and yes Trump will of course as the old saying goes never let a good crisis go to waste but agree on this one, the outcome isn’t pre determined by any means.

I will clarify everything I’ve said as follows which you may yet disagree with:

I believe no matter what may need to be addressed as an issue in the US that there are those wrongly hijacking at worst or trying to jump on the bandwagon at best with these protests. They have turned extremely ugly and I do back the president for using whatever force necessary. I do still however not hold any sympathy with those continuing to protest on the streets, even with best intentions, as the hijackers have turned it into something altogether different and it shows a lack wherewithal to still be out there and a general disregard for others and own safety and rule of law.

Edited by BlueJay (02 Jun 2020 10.54pm)

I don't agree with use of the military. There is no way that what's happening now is worse than everything that's happened on US soil in the past 200+ years and if we tell ourselves that it is, more fool us for what it unleashes. Use of military against the people, regardless of who is in power may well become a genie that cannot be put back in the bottle to the detriment of all people and parties. If they take a more central role it's possible that we'll really see what extremely ugly looks like. They are a broadsword, not a scalpel and both the perception and reality of what comes next is as yet unknowable. Still, it's fine to disagree about these things of course. What would life be without different perspectives.

As I say, I would agree that it's not safe or advisable to be out there right now. If my kids were American citizens no matter their politics, I'd try keep them away from powderkegs like this.

Edited by BlueJay (03 Jun 2020 3.16am)