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Belmont 06 Jun 20 3.35pm
Originally posted by cryrst Let me just ask.i wasnt asking about me specifically. Can you in the noun meaning a person be a little bit racist or is it all or nothing. That is were I'm confused, being white I'm actually quite afraid of what I can and cant ask, let alone state. I have no hidden agenda for a green light I am just totally confused. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so to speak. Transfer that to bame and I hope you get what I'm asking. As your white and I'm from the BME community am I allowed to celebrate St Georges day.
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Belmont

06 Jun 20 3.35pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Let me just ask.i wasnt asking about me specifically. Can you in the noun meaning a person be a little bit racist or is it all or nothing.
That is were I'm confused, being white I'm actually quite afraid of what I can and cant ask, let alone state. I have no hidden agenda for a green light I am just totally confused. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so to speak. Transfer that to bame and I hope you get what I'm asking.

As your white and I'm from the BME community am I allowed to celebrate St Georges day.

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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.35pm
Originally posted by Belmont Well if it was the the presenter who was sacked, assuming that is what you mean,I would suppose it would be because the radio station was blatantly stupid or worse. But still not sure why that would make you a little bit racist? It was the bbc and you tell them that from within and you will follow the presenter out of the door. Clearly if you think they were stupid, they obviously dont. This is where we are at and it's not right to be sacked for having an opposite opinion to a black person. He didnt say anything wrong but I'm white so my opinion will be from a different angle I suppose. The transcript is on the web sight if you want to give your take on it. God this is so difficult to discuss as I cannot go through life saying yes to everything just incase I offend someone inadvertently.
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cryrst

The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.35pm

Originally posted by Belmont

Well if it was the the presenter who was sacked, assuming that is what you mean,I would suppose it would be because the radio station was blatantly stupid or worse.

But still not sure why that would make you a little bit racist?

It was the bbc and you tell them that from within and you will follow the presenter out of the door.
Clearly if you think they were stupid, they obviously dont. This is where we are at and it's not right to be sacked for having an opposite opinion to a black person. He didnt say anything wrong but I'm white so my opinion will be from a different angle I suppose. The transcript is on the web sight if you want to give your take on it. God this is so difficult to discuss as I cannot go through life saying yes to everything just incase I offend someone inadvertently.

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BlueJay UK 06 Jun 20 3.37pm
Originally posted by cryrst Let me just ask.i wasnt asking about me specifically. Can you in the noun meaning a person be a little bit racist or is it all or nothing. That is were I'm confused, being white I'm actually quite afraid of what I can and cant ask, let alone state. I have no hidden agenda for a green light I am just totally confused. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so to speak. Transfer that to bame and I hope you get what I'm asking. That's a shame. I do think as a society we should factor in a person's intention rather than an exacting way of communicating that creates 'gotcha moments'. Some people are looking for others to overstep the mark to round on them; the social media mentality. Most individuals in this day and age aren't racist though by any meaningful definition, and those that are... are not particularly hard to spot.
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BlueJay

UK 06 Jun 20 3.37pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Let me just ask.i wasnt asking about me specifically. Can you in the noun meaning a person be a little bit racist or is it all or nothing.
That is were I'm confused, being white I'm actually quite afraid of what I can and cant ask, let alone state. I have no hidden agenda for a green light I am just totally confused. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so to speak. Transfer that to bame and I hope you get what I'm asking.

That's a shame. I do think as a society we should factor in a person's intention rather than an exacting way of communicating that creates 'gotcha moments'.

Some people are looking for others to overstep the mark to round on them; the social media mentality. Most individuals in this day and age aren't racist though by any meaningful definition, and those that are... are not particularly hard to spot.

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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.38pm
Originally posted by Belmont As your white and I'm from the BME community am I allowed to celebrate St Georges day. With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone.
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cryrst

The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.38pm

Originally posted by Belmont

As your white and I'm from the BME community am I allowed to celebrate St Georges day.

With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone.

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BlueJay UK 06 Jun 20 3.39pm
Originally posted by cryrst With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone. Well said.
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BlueJay

UK 06 Jun 20 3.39pm

Originally posted by cryrst

With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone.

Well said.

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Belmont 06 Jun 20 3.40pm
Originally posted by cryrst It was the bbc and you tell them that from within and you will follow the presenter out of the door. Clearly if you think they were stupid, they obviously dont. This is where we are at and it's not right to be sacked for having an opposite opinion to a black person. He didnt say anything wrong but I'm white so my opinion will be from a different angle I suppose. The transcript is on the web sight if you want to give your take on it. God this is so difficult to discuss as I cannot go through life saying yes to everything just incase I offend someone inadvertently. Yep correct why would anyone get offended by that If you are asking my permission so you can go out into the world and then say what you like to anyone because I said it's ok, believe me I haven't got that much power. Let me spell it out for not every BME person is spokesperson for every other BME person as you aren't for anybody else either.
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Belmont

06 Jun 20 3.40pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It was the bbc and you tell them that from within and you will follow the presenter out of the door.
Clearly if you think they were stupid, they obviously dont. This is where we are at and it's not right to be sacked for having an opposite opinion to a black person. He didnt say anything wrong but I'm white so my opinion will be from a different angle I suppose. The transcript is on the web sight if you want to give your take on it. God this is so difficult to discuss as I cannot go through life saying yes to everything just incase I offend someone inadvertently.

Yep correct why would anyone get offended by that

If you are asking my permission so you can go out into the world and then say what you like to anyone because I said it's ok, believe me I haven't got that much power.

Let me spell it out for not every BME person is spokesperson for every other BME person as you aren't for anybody else either.

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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.41pm
Originally posted by BlueJay That's a shame. I do think as a society we should factor in a person's intention rather than an exacting way of communicating that creates 'gotcha moments'. Some people are looking for others to overstep the mark to round on them; the social media mentality. Most individuals in this day and age aren't racist though by any meaningful definition, and those that are... are not particularly hard to spot. Exactly and it is a shame to be afraid to speak what you feel and think. Even if its negative it doesnt necessarily constitute racism. Constructive criticism is useful in building bridges if they are broken.
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cryrst

The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.41pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

That's a shame. I do think as a society we should factor in a person's intention rather than an exacting way of communicating that creates 'gotcha moments'.

Exactly and it is a shame to be afraid to speak what you feel and think. Even if its negative it doesnt necessarily constitute racism. Constructive criticism is useful in building bridges if they are broken.

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Belmont 06 Jun 20 3.43pm
Originally posted by cryrst With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone. I didn't mean that literally, you are your own man you better decide what is right and wrong yourself, I'm quite capable myself of deciding if i want to celebrate St George's day or not
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Belmont

06 Jun 20 3.43pm

Originally posted by cryrst

With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone.

I didn't mean that literally, you are your own man you better decide what is right and wrong yourself, I'm quite capable myself of deciding if i want to celebrate St George's day or not

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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.44pm
Originally posted by Belmont Yep correct why would anyone get offended by that If you are asking my permission so you can go out into the world and then say what you like to anyone because I said it's ok, believe me I haven't got that much power. Let me spell it out for not every BME person is spokesperson for every other BME person as you aren't for anybody else either. No I never said say what you like to anyone at all. Most right minded people know the line and sometimes it gets blurred, so is easy to step over inadvertently. That's the time that a bit of thought needs putting in. Engage brain before marf. That's the same both ways as well.
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cryrst

The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.44pm

Originally posted by Belmont

Yep correct why would anyone get offended by that

If you are asking my permission so you can go out into the world and then say what you like to anyone because I said it's ok, believe me I haven't got that much power.

Let me spell it out for not every BME person is spokesperson for every other BME person as you aren't for anybody else either.

No I never said say what you like to anyone at all.
Most right minded people know the line and sometimes it gets blurred, so is easy to step over inadvertently. That's the time that a bit of thought needs putting in. Engage brain before marf.
That's the same both ways as well.

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cryrst The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.47pm
Originally posted by Belmont I didn't mean that literally, you are your own man you better decide what is right and wrong yourself, I'm quite capable myself of deciding if i want to celebrate St George's day or not I knew that but sometimes being literal is easier than using riddles and for the record I meant what I said. Also How do I know what's right and wrong, I'm white and very aware that everything I say in every context is analyzed and dissected.
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cryrst

The garden of England 06 Jun 20 3.47pm

Originally posted by Belmont

I didn't mean that literally, you are your own man you better decide what is right and wrong yourself, I'm quite capable myself of deciding if i want to celebrate St George's day or not

I knew that but sometimes being literal is easier than using riddles and for the record I meant what I said. Also How do I know what's right and wrong, I'm white and very aware that everything I say in every context is analyzed and dissected.

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BlueJay UK 06 Jun 20 3.48pm
Originally posted by Belmont Regarding Bo Selecta just because I'm BME am I supposed to be a spokesman on what is acceptable comedy or not, try making up your own mind your a free thinker. I found it a bit unfortunate that he'd disown major comic characters from the show that made his career. Comedy can age badly, but the intention behind it was one of fun and absurdity, and even many of the people he mocks see the funny side of it. He wasn't mocking anything related to a person's race. But at the end of the day, it's his comic creation, so if he feels uncomfortable about how it could be perceived negatively now that's for him I suppose.
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BlueJay

UK 06 Jun 20 3.48pm

Originally posted by Belmont

Regarding Bo Selecta just because I'm BME am I supposed to be a spokesman on what is acceptable comedy or not, try making up your own mind your a free thinker.

I found it a bit unfortunate that he'd disown major comic characters from the show that made his career. Comedy can age badly, but the intention behind it was one of fun and absurdity, and even many of the people he mocks see the funny side of it. He wasn't mocking anything related to a person's race.

But at the end of the day, it's his comic creation, so if he feels uncomfortable about how it could be perceived negatively now that's for him I suppose.

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DanH SW2 06 Jun 20 3.51pm
Originally posted by cryrst With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone. You’ve nailed it here. It’s attitude and being open enough to listen to others and accept that what you might think of as harmless might not come across that way.
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DanH

SW2 06 Jun 20 3.51pm

Originally posted by cryrst

With me both holding a beer yes please. The same as if I was invited to a west Indian, asian,african or any other celebration. Colour is skin deep. Attitude goes to the bone.

You’ve nailed it here. It’s attitude and being open enough to listen to others and accept that what you might think of as harmless might not come across that way.

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