I know Orwell was prophetic, but it is uncanny how so many of his quotes are tailored made for you. Mind you, types like you have always been around.

Certainly Orwell was a Socialist, but Socialism then was concerned with bettering the lives of ordinary working people, he would be appalled by the current Woke version.

He wasn't too keen on many of his comrades back then: "One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words socialism and communism draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, Nature-cure quack, pacifist and feminist in England. . . . We have reached a stage when the very word socialism calls up, on the one hand, a picture of airplanes, tractors and huge glittering factories of glass and concrete; on the other, a picture of vegetarians with wilting beards, of Bolshevik commissars (half gangster, half gramophone), or earnest ladies in sandals, shock-headed Marxists chewing polysyllables, escaped Quakers, birth control fanatics, and Labour Party backstairs-crawlers ..... If only the sandals and pistachio-colored shirts could be put in a pile and burnt, and every vegetarian, teetotaler and creeping Jesus sent home to Welwyn Garden City to do his yoga exercises quietly .... As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents."

Orwell great attribute was his honesty and ability to see through the spin, hypocrisy and downright lies of the far left. This fits very well with some of the things the likes of you spout.

[I expect I have seen the quotes as I have read practically everything that Orwell ever wrote.]

Edited by georgenorman (09 Aug 2023 10.17pm)

George Orwell fought against fascism in the Spanish civil war ('Homage to Catalonia' and was scathing about capitalism and the right, also about the British empire ('Burmese Days'.

There is a fantastic and hilarious rant against 'capitalist bum-lickers' in Homage to Catalonia which had my spanish lady friend at the time in stitches.

His portrayal of Britain approaching war in 'Coming up for Air' make you feel you are there yourself, 'Keep the Aspidistra Flying' a gentle mockery of English class.

It's very odd for a right wing person to quote Orwell, he was nothing of the kind.

Of course Orwell was an old fashioned Socialist, there is no dispute about that. However, he was as anti-Communist as he was anti-Fascist, he was also anti-homosexuals and probably anti-semitic. 'Animal Farm' is of course a complete refutation of the communist Russian Revolution, in '1984' the country to run by INGSOC “English Socialism”.

Perhaps you chose not to read the link I sent. Here is what Orwell said about 1984:-

“My novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is not intended as an attack on socialism, or on the British Labor party, but as a show-up of the perversions to which a centralized economy is liable, and which have already been partly realized in Communism and fascism. I do not believe that the kind of society I describe necessarily will arrive, but I believe (allowing of course for the fact that the book is a satire) that something resembling it could arrive. I believe also that totalitarian ideas have taken root in the minds of intellectuals everywhere, and I have tried to draw these ideas out to their logical consequences. The scene of the book is laid in Britain in order to emphasize that the English-speaking races are not innately better than anyone else and that totalitarianism, if not fought against, could triumph anywhere.”

I agree with him. It could. We must protect democracy.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Aug 2023 11.39pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I am well aware of the quote.

The sentence I have highlighted is very telling. It is exactly the direction that what passes as the left these days is moving in.

I think he would have been amused by the ‘support’ of the likes of you and Steeleye, as you and he are just the sort of lefties that he detested.

That is just the sort of dissembling that Orwell homed in on. Of course you are a 'leftie', people merely need to read your posts to see that.

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I disengage, I turn the page.

Defending them I'd get rid of them.

De-Bank the bankers!

Currently driving the economy into recession with aggressive unnecessary rate hikes (a nice little earner for them).

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This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.