This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Southern Rail Strike - right or wrong
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 16 Dec 16 5.55pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by elgrande
I am now going to retire from this thread,otherwise I will probably get a red card.....words fail me. I feel for anyone who loses their job over the strikes. And both rail company and unions take the blame. I just find it hard to believe that people are getting fired for something out of their control. Is this one of those British Values people keep harking to. Surely other arrangements can be made. Get a temp in on strike days who comes a different route. Would anyone who was fired have a case against southern for loss of earnings or potential earnings?
|
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
 |
 7mins In the bush 16 Dec 16 10.00pm |
  |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by npn
What am I missing? Why should RMT be allowed in to talks between Southerns and ASLEF? That's like me asking to be present at my colleagues' salary negotiations because I'm an interested party Invite was to both unions as both been on strike. Southern/DfT decided on Thursday morning to deal with ASLEF only, they turned RMT fella away. Drivers hold power, southern know this... if they can sort deal with ASLEF, they will just ignore RMT. The dude who says I'm a bitter ex employee... that's a hard one to counter... because a bitter ex employee would say... "I'm happy I left". All I can do is say... I put it on here that I left, I made it clear it my decision and that I used my job with TOCs (I worked for more than one) to fund my property developing that I do now. Combining the two, nearly killed me. My life is far better now. I'm blessed, I don't deserve the life I have now. Life is short... don't waste it. I understand this dispute is costing jobs/relationships... that is awful, but doesn't alter who I believe to be at fault. How anyone can look at the CCTV images in the drivers cab and say DOO is safe is beyond me
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
 |
Attachment: Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 16 Dec 16 10.25pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by nickgusset
I feel for anyone who loses their job over the strikes. And both rail company and unions take the blame. I just find it hard to believe that people are getting fired for something out of their control. Is this one of those British Values people keep harking to. Surely other arrangements can be made. Get a temp in on strike days who comes a different route. Would anyone who was fired have a case against southern for loss of earnings or potential earnings? Against the unions surely?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Bert the Head Epsom 16 Dec 16 10.48pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stuk
Stop talking bollocks. They have been told they'll move to other roles but they're striking as they know people won't be kept, or new people re-employed, in a needless job forever. Eventually the number of jobs will reduce, like they will in every sector of work. I suggest you stop thinking unions have done anything for everyone. The Unions are always wrong and the Tories are always right (this is their strike). Meanwhile working people's working conditions get worse and worse and the rich get richer and richer. Coward.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| 7mins In the bush 16 Dec 16 10.48pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Against the unions surely? Explain?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 16 Dec 16 11.21pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by matt_himself
Another strike day and more chaos. Good to see that many fellow Cityers got in, worked hard before the 1/1 log jam and enjoyed a good lunch. The sad thing still is that neither Southern nor the Unions give a s*** about their passengers. More misery next week. Yep - I beat the strike by catching a DOO Thameslink train. You know, the service operated by Govia that also has Southern Rail as part of it's group.
Old, Ungifted and White |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Stuk Top half 16 Dec 16 11.32pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by 7mins
Invite was to both unions as both been on strike. Southern/DfT decided on Thursday morning to deal with ASLEF only, they turned RMT fella away. Drivers hold power, southern know this... if they can sort deal with ASLEF, they will just ignore RMT. The dude who says I'm a bitter ex employee... that's a hard one to counter... because a bitter ex employee would say... "I'm happy I left". All I can do is say... I put it on here that I left, I made it clear it my decision and that I used my job with TOCs (I worked for more than one) to fund my property developing that I do now. Combining the two, nearly killed me. My life is far better now. I'm blessed, I don't deserve the life I have now. Life is short... don't waste it. I understand this dispute is costing jobs/relationships... that is awful, but doesn't alter who I believe to be at fault. How anyone can look at the CCTV images in the drivers cab and say DOO is safe is beyond me No it wasn't. The RMT invited themselves.
Optimistic as ever |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Stuk Top half 16 Dec 16 11.35pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Bert the Head
The Unions are always wrong and the Tories are always right (this is their strike). Meanwhile working people's working conditions get worse and worse and the rich get richer and richer. Coward. You're either a retard or you have replied to the wrong post.
Optimistic as ever |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Dec 16 12.34am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by nickgusset
Two of two It must be the four week Christmas holiday? Blimey doesn't it come round quick !!
Pro USA & Israel |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| 7mins In the bush 17 Dec 16 1.06am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stuk
No it wasn't. The RMT invited themselves. No they didn't.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 16 2.03am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Jimenez
It must be the four week Christmas holiday? Blimey doesn't it come round quick !! You need some new material.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 17 Dec 16 9.35am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by 7mins
Explain? As would any case against Southern or the DfT
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterAll images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2025 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.