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 ex hibitionist  Hastings 20 Dec 20 4.46pm |
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that should read 'give us bounce...' more beer please
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by Booted Eagle
Think Roy will be allowed to finish the season. Hopefully discussions behind the scenes are going on now and a definite decision has been made for the end of the season between him and the chairman/owners etc. It would of been nice to have a manager already in the wings, not Dougie please. Gaining experience from Roy, not suggesting they put in place everything from his tenure. Also replacements at the moment look thin on the ground. Putting a new, unproven PL manager now would be a huge gamble, compared to say the beginning of next season, where things can be rectified over a longer time period if need be. The trouble fans fail to understand is that the squad we have at the moment would struggle with Klopp in charge and all the sensible fans on here know this, making a change now or next season or the one after is going to be painful no matter what.
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| Plaistow Eagle 20 Dec 20 5.21pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
The trouble fans fail to understand is that the squad we have at the moment would struggle with Klopp in charge and all the sensible fans on here know this, making a change now or next season or the one after is going to be painful no matter what. What on earth are you going on about...? So your plan is a 3 year plan is to progress with a 73 year old Manager, who’s tactics and philosophies are proving outdated - are you for real..!! Irrespective of whether my views are correct I’m sure even Roy himself wouldn’t sign up for another 3 years..!! Reason Liverpool are doing so well is that they have a “young” and hungry Manager who wants to make his mark and get to the top of the pile - which I suspect in Klopp’s case is Managing the German National side as and when the opportunity presents itself. As for if Klopp were in charge of Palace I entirely disagree - we have a talented squad that a younger more expansive Manager would get far more out of and certainly wouldn’t have got spanked 7 zip at home..!! As for a 3 year plan - we are in the here and now, so need to build on, move on and progress from the here and now. Not stand still with a 73 year old Manager who IMO is past his sell by date..!! COYP
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
What on earth are you going on about...? So your plan is a 3 year plan is to progress with a 73 year old Manager, who’s tactics and philosophies are proving outdated - are you for real..!! Irrespective of whether my views are correct I’m sure even Roy himself wouldn’t sign up for another 3 years..!! Reason Liverpool are doing so well is that they have a “young” and hungry Manager who wants to make his mark and get to the top of the pile - which I suspect in Klopp’s case is Managing the German National side as and when the opportunity presents itself. As for if Klopp were in charge of Palace I entirely disagree - we have a talented squad that a younger more expansive Manager would get far more out of and certainly wouldn’t have got spanked 7 zip at home..!! As for a 3 year plan - we are in the here and now, so need to build on, move on and progress from the here and now. Not stand still with a 73 year old Manager who IMO is past his sell by date..!! COYP What I suggested was that no matter who we bring in the results will not be much different, Klopp would want to spend wouldn't he, what makes you believe that if for example Eddie Howe steps in (which I feel should be sooner then three years but would not upset me or the clubs standing if it wasn't) and demanded money for new players which everyone knows we need will actually be granted sufficient amounts of it to achieve the opportunity of better results.
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| Plaistow Eagle 20 Dec 20 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
What I suggested was that no matter who we bring in the results will not be much different, Klopp would want to spend wouldn't he, what makes you believe that if for example Eddie Howe steps in (which I feel should be sooner then three years but would not upset me or the clubs standing if it wasn't) and demanded money for new players which everyone knows we need will actually be granted sufficient amounts of it to achieve the opportunity of better results. IMO - you’re wrong a younger Manager with fresh ideas and tactics would get far more out of this squad than Roy..!! Every Manager including Roy wants to spend to improve their squad - where I don’t trust Roy is even when those resources are available to him - he doesn’t use them - it took him c.6 games to realise Eze should be starting every game if fit. Look at yesterday he plays Ayew over Bats. Beyond that all season long we’ve defended too narrow - Roy knows he’s up against TAA and Robertson who will push on as fullbacks so you need to counter that - so play Townsend and Schlupp wide to cover back and protect Clyne and PVA - no he doesn't so we get gubbed big time..!! It’s not me being wise after the event - it’s as plain as the nose on your face..!! Roy’s time is run and as for giving him another 3 years - yeah good luck with that if you want to be Sunderland..!! COYP
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| monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 20 Dec 20 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
Edited by Tickled pink (20 Dec 2020 5.17pm) As far as I’m concerned Palace only lost 4-0, I turned it off once Henderson scored
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Dec 20 6.19pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
What I suggested was that no matter who we bring in the results will not be much different, Klopp would want to spend wouldn't he, what makes you believe that if for example Eddie Howe steps in (which I feel should be sooner then three years but would not upset me or the clubs standing if it wasn't) and demanded money for new players which everyone knows we need will actually be granted sufficient amounts of it to achieve the opportunity of better results. We wouldn't be able to cope with the work rate managers like Bielsa or Klopp would demand. Our fitness has not been good enough for some time.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
We wouldn't be able to cope with the work rate managers like Bielsa or Klopp would demand. Our fitness has not been good enough for some time. Same as saying the players Klopp would inherit with us are not good enough, or are you suggesting our coaching staff is failing through fitness? I'd much prefer to discus this with fans who want Roy out rather then just a shouting match which achieves nothing whatsoever but distain towards each other when in actual fact we all want the same outcome don't we, come on people lets all be nice to each other and stop winding each other up.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by monkey
As far as I’m concerned Palace only lost 4-0, I turned it off once Henderson scored You're correct because we were playing quite well and didn't deserve that scoreline at all, what came after that forth goal was indeed humiliation because our players simply had no answer to their brilliance, it must be stated also that they somewhat held their hands up and said please stop.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Dec 20 7.29pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
Same as saying the players Klopp would inherit with us are not good enough, or are you suggesting our coaching staff is failing through fitness? I'd much prefer to discus this with fans who want Roy out rather then just a shouting match which achieves nothing whatsoever but distain towards each other when in actual fact we all want the same outcome don't we, come on people lets all be nice to each other and stop winding each other up. Our squad isn't one that would suit an all out pressing game. We would be badly found out. We lack pace anyway.
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CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE  bloomfield 20 Dec 20 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
What on earth are you going on about...? So your plan is a 3 year plan is to progress with a 73 year old Manager, who’s tactics and philosophies are proving outdated - are you for real..!! Irrespective of whether my views are correct I’m sure even Roy himself wouldn’t sign up for another 3 years..!! Reason Liverpool are doing so well is that they have a “young” and hungry Manager who wants to make his mark and get to the top of the pile - which I suspect in Klopp’s case is Managing the German National side as and when the opportunity presents itself. As for if Klopp were in charge of Palace I entirely disagree - we have a talented squad that a younger more expansive Manager would get far more out of and certainly wouldn’t have got spanked 7 zip at home..!! As for a 3 year plan - we are in the here and now, so need to build on, move on and progress from the here and now. Not stand still with a 73 year old Manager who IMO is past his sell by date..!! COYP Totally agree with you here. there is no way the ambitions of a 73 yr old manager can be the same with young buck players trying to make their way.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Dec 20 8.27pm |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
IMO - you’re wrong a younger Manager with fresh ideas and tactics would get far more out of this squad than Roy..!! Every Manager including Roy wants to spend to improve their squad - where I don’t trust Roy is even when those resources are available to him - he doesn’t use them - it took him c.6 games to realise Eze should be starting every game if fit. Look at yesterday he plays Ayew over Bats. Beyond that all season long we’ve defended too narrow - Roy knows he’s up against TAA and Robertson who will push on as fullbacks so you need to counter that - so play Townsend and Schlupp wide to cover back and protect Clyne and PVA - no he doesn't so we get gubbed big time..!! It’s not me being wise after the event - it’s as plain as the nose on your face..!! Roy’s time is run and as for giving him another 3 years - yeah good luck with that if you want to be Sunderland..!! COYP
Finally how do you know a younger manager with fresh ideas will get far more out of this (ageing) squad? It's simply your opinion. You may be right or you may be wrong. I tend to the latter view. As I've said before, until the club can identify a younger manager of the right calibre and experience to manage a PL team such as ours, we should stick with Roy who at least keeps us out of relegation trouble (unlike Howe could, for example).
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 8.28pm |
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Originally posted by CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE
Totally agree with you here. there is no way the ambitions of a 73 yr old manager can be the same with young buck players trying to make their way. Experience trumps young bucks and if you don't understand that you need examining.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 8.37pm |
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Originally posted by doombear
Finally how do you know a younger manager with fresh ideas will get far more out of this (ageing) squad? It's simply your opinion. You may be right or you may be wrong. I tend to the latter view. As I've said before, until the club can identify a younger manager of the right calibre and experience to manage a PL team such as ours, we should stick with Roy who at least keeps us out of relegation trouble (unlike Howe could, for example). yes, but I do feel a bit more thought should go into why Eddie Howe would fail because he had as much trouble with his team scoring as they did defending and the basis of his squad was sound, also he had many years of real success with a limited attraction compared to say us. I think he would be a decent manager for us and with the correct amount of authority behind him.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 8.46pm |
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Originally posted by Ali_Campbell
Yesterday’s result was awful and the club and back room staff will need to have a look at themselves. However, if Roy wants to stay on, I think the club would extend for another year. Roy likes 4-4-2 which gives us a bit more up top and think we have played ok this season. At 1-0 yesterday we had two really good chances to score and equalise. Second half we fell apart. However, Roy has been criticised for being two defensive. We then play a bit more expansive and he gets criticised again. What approach do ppl prefer. Also, which seems the biggest problem for the club. Who comes in. Howe - spent fortunes and got Bournemouth relegated Of all the alternatives, I’m happy with Roy. A little confused here, after the forth goal (I will say it again) the game was without any doubt finished as a contest, so up until then we could've ..should've been within touching distance although still behind them, we need to understand who we played and their standard of player and then throw in clinical, we are not clinical in any sense of the word. Edited by Tickled pink (20 Dec 2020 8.50pm)
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 20 Dec 20 9.03pm |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
IMO - you’re wrong a younger Manager with fresh ideas and tactics would get far more out of this squad than Roy..!! Every Manager including Roy wants to spend to improve their squad - where I don’t trust Roy is even when those resources are available to him - he doesn’t use them - it took him c.6 games to realise Eze should be starting every game if fit. Look at yesterday he plays Ayew over Bats. Beyond that all season long we’ve defended too narrow - Roy knows he’s up against TAA and Robertson who will push on as fullbacks so you need to counter that - so play Townsend and Schlupp wide to cover back and protect Clyne and PVA - no he doesn't so we get gubbed big time..!! It’s not me being wise after the event - it’s as plain as the nose on your face..!! Roy’s time is run and as for giving him another 3 years - yeah good luck with that if you want to be Sunderland..!! COYP Are you actually suggesting that our squad of players if fielded as you suggest would've caused that Liverpool side that played yesterday enough problems to allow us points?
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