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 Stirlingsays  14 Dec 20 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
And of course let’s not forget the Tibetans! Ah the Dalai Lama.....they loved him until he spoke out against mass immigration in Europe....all too uncomfortably close to replacement for them. Which is what's happened to his own country. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2020 12.07pm)
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 14 Dec 20 12.17pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Poor old Wisbech eh...panders to you and you throw him under the bus first chance you get. I get it. You're just latching on to any positive comments because of that chip. You really are a weirdo mate
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 14 Dec 20 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
What was your opinion on F1 drivers refusing to take the knee when Lewis Hamilton was blowing a gasket over it and what’s your opinion now they make a perfectly good show of solidarity against racism? (was there any in F1 anyway?) I don't watch F1, but I don't have a problem with not taking the knee if there's a good show of solidarity against racism, as you put it, to replace that.. As I've said previously, all I care about with regards to this topic is racial equality
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 14 Dec 20 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by cantrbury eagle
Just had a quick flick through the comments i have splinters from siting on the fence.But loved it yesterday at the start when the whistle blew a player from each side forgot to kneel and charged into position quickly looked around and saw all the others kneeling .Not sure who they were but it was genuine mistake as they were fired up to play. Son and Benteke
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Dec 20 12.54pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Fair enough, however it all becomes an endless recycling of the same arguments if people just tag on at the end. Then again, I understand that not everyone has the time to read pages and pages of people letting off steam. Yes I know - but I was able to share that I was in a conversation on the subject...and actually that's what prompted me to post on this thread.
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cryrst  The garden of England 14 Dec 20 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I don't watch F1, but I don't have a problem with not taking the knee if there's a good show of solidarity against racism, as you put it, to replace that.. As I've said previously, all I care about with regards to this topic is racial equality What's your definition of racial equality and from a uk perspective how bad is it here?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Dec 20 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I don't watch F1, but I don't have a problem with not taking the knee if there's a good show of solidarity against racism, as you put it, to replace that.. As I've said previously, all I care about with regards to this topic is racial equality If that’s the case I’m not sure what we disagree on, although it’s not a clear cut thing. I honestly can’t remember. Maybe there’s peer pressure on footballers to kneel, like on the Police. The following Millwall match against QPR had a good show of solidarity against racism.
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Dec 20 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I don't watch F1, but I don't have a problem with not taking the knee if there's a good show of solidarity against racism, as you put it, to replace that.. As I've said previously, all I care about with regards to this topic is racial equality Agreed
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Dec 20 2.52pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Agreed Same. So I’m now unsure what the disagreements actually were/are.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 20 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Yes I know - but I was able to share that I was in a conversation on the subject...and actually that's what prompted me to post on this thread. Cool.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 20 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
You really are a weirdo mate Tips hat.
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 becky over the moon 14 Dec 20 3.14pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
You really are a weirdo mate Yes, but Hol is a very inclusive forum: he may be a weirdo, but he's 'our' weirdo........
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| Stirlingsays 14 Dec 20 3.19pm |
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Originally posted by becky
Yes, but Hol is a very inclusive forum: he may be a weirdo, but he's 'our' weirdo........
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| Badger11 Beckenham 14 Dec 20 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
If that’s the case I’m not sure what we disagree on, although it’s not a clear cut thing. I honestly can’t remember. Maybe there’s peer pressure on footballers to kneel, like on the Police. The following Millwall match against QPR had a good show of solidarity against racism. Millwall don't want Sky to televise their next game they feel they have been treated harshly by the media and especially by Sly.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Dec 20 3.45pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Millwall don't want Sky to televise their next game they feel they have been treated harshly by the media and especially by Sly. They’re possibly hoping for Watford to walk off, led by Troy Deeney. But Deeney said he’d walk if racially abused, not booed.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Dec 20 3.48pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They’re possibly hoping for Watford to walk off, led by Troy Deeney. But Deeney said he’d walk if racially abused, not booed. Teachers and Police should walk off whenever abused too, why should they take it? Footballers are such victims of abuse, not sure how they do their job sometimes. Probably have to spend most of their wages on counselling.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You know full well there is a blanket of shame ready for any players not taking the knee every match that’ll come from their teammates and sly sports and the rest of the press. Rugby has more intelligent players that don’t conclude one thing if you oppose something and F1 is an individual sport that had sportsmen able to not need to take Lewis Hamilton’s blame and tantrums and told him no and expressed an anti racism message in another way with LH kneeling. NFL had a choice and viewing figures are 25% down, or is it more? So we’ll see what happens. But because of Covid the fall in crowds will probably be blamed on Covid and the fall in viewers on the recession. The talk on Hol was to turn backs during the kneeling. Problem with that is it’s as if it hadn’t happened, which they’d be okay with. Even if any of that was true, which it isn't, none of it is the point. The point is showing disrespect to others. The only acceptable thing you can do, if you feel so strongly, is not to attend another match whilst these gestures continue. Go watch rugby if that makes you happy. Booing, chanting, turning your back or walking out are all as bad as whistling during someone's anthem. You just don't get it though, do you?
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Teddy Eagle  14 Dec 20 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Even if any of that was true, which it isn't, none of it is the point. The point is showing disrespect to others. The only acceptable thing you can do, if you feel so strongly, is not to attend another match whilst these gestures continue. Go watch rugby if that makes you happy. Booing, chanting, turning your back or walking out are all as bad as whistling during someone's anthem. You just don't get it though, do you? How about respecting other people’s religious views which you were deriding on the Election thread? Or their political views which get derided on every thread?
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