Steve Cooper has a win percentage of 44.74% since they joined the prem league , seems like a backward step , Roy has a 100 percent record.

Did score one of the most amazing goals I've ever seen at Selhurst Park. Was just unfortunate he put it past and young and hirsute Speroni.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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This is sure to agitate a few on here, but it is not without merit. If performances and results persist Roy deserves a second crack.

He is a different animal to his previous spell and he ticks almost of all the boxes the board are looking for (age aside):

- He is presiding over a team with far greater quality than previously and getting them to perform.
- He obviously knows the club and board and isn’t as troublesome and as demanding as you would (reasonably) expect a new manager to be.
- Presuming our remit is to compete for Europe, Roy has proven previously at other clubs that he can compete on that front, and with further quality investment he would have a greater chance of fulfilling it.
- You get the sense that he has learned from supporters’ frustrations with him previously and that he is prepared to throw his defensive inhibitions to the wind and produce more attacking football. (Our previous three games have been nothing short of entertaining and deeply satisfying).
- Roy obviously wants the gig. You can see it in his interviews. And Parish knows it too.
- We’re Palace and we don’t go by anyone’s rule book!

Thoughts? Am I the only one thinking all this?

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Judging by comments on the 'Next Manager' thread, you are clearly not alone in this view.

However:
1. I'm not convinced Roy would agree to return full time for another year and I can't imagine Sheila being over-impressed with the idea.
2. Whilst our performances in the last 3 games have been enjoyable, we have to remember that we've only beaten the bottom two teams and a 16th place Leeds team who should have been out of sight at half time. As I've said elsewhere, those three teams are where they are for a reason - they aren't very good.
3. Just like with Zaha, we have to move on to new things sooner or later and this summer would seem (to me at least) an apt time to do so.

In the unlikely event Hodgson did want to stay and the club appointed him, I wouldn't be disappointed.

I'm not someone who sees Hodgson as a purely defence-minded manager. He is essentially a pragmatist who recognizes that if you can't defend you are unlikely to win many matches and when you do have good attacking talent you need to use them. He sets his teams up according to the strengths and weaknesses of the players available and in his last two years with us he had a bunch of ageing players who were mainly past their sell-by date and needed to work within a very tight defensive system if we were to survive. It wasn't pretty watching but it got the job done.

I am pleased that he has now had the chance to show that with the right blend of players he is quite willing to encourage a more attacking mentality. I'd love him, though, to get some more good results this season and then ride out into the sunset so-to-speak leaving us fans with a positive memory of his time with us.

Edited by doombear (17 Apr 2023 6.49pm)

Can't argue with that but surely, Roy will eventually want to step down and enjoy a proper retirement? A combo of Ray and Paddy perhaps for the longer term?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

How about honorary president or similar?

... three of our stands aren't dedicated to people. It would be fitting if the club recognised him in some way.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

A rather unnecessary dig, especially given he’s just won us 3 on the bounce after we failed to win a single game for 3 months.

Strange.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

When we lost 7 out of 8 with 1 draw at the end of the 19/20 season and then 6 out the last 8 with 2 wins the following season we had Townsend, Zaha, Benteke up front or Ayew in one of those 3 spots (Mateta as well in the latter season), which is not a lot different to what we have now. We had a more attacking full back in PVA playing and a younger Ward, Milivojevic and McArthur at a much higher level than they are now. All in all it wasn’t that bad a side and certainly not as limited as you are making out.

Given that centre half’s don’t have a great influence on our attacking (although I accept that Andersen has helped with some of his cross field passing) the only difference between the teams is Olise for Townsend and Eze who has only recently returned to fitness.

I’m not entirely disagreeing but I thought it should be mentioned as we were awful to watch at that time.

Given the players at his disposal Hodgson contrived to have the team play the worse football ever seen at Selhurst Park, particularly during his final two seasons, and this includes the thin gruel served up by Vieira. Worth remembering when others laud Roy to the sky. At the moment Roy is enjoying himself and looking far more relaxed than in his previous stint, naturally this is good for him and good for the team, but to think that Roy is the person to guide us through the next 3 odd years with some master plan in hand is frankly nonsense, he'll be approaching 80 by then.
I get the impression that some fans would love to preserve this moment of a happy successful reunion for ever, but time marches on. One thing is certain though, there are 3 teams worse than us