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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Aug 23 2.43pm
'Dazza talk' (could have own tab on here) aside, here is the/a piece on Hodgson's concerns in the evening standard - [Link] I think he is correct to say so. If there are behind the scenes dealings it would be very strange indeed that Roy would not even have an inkling about them, though this could be the case. Even so, all very close to season start. It's concerning when the first team is looking incomplete, and even then Olise may be going. When the squad looks equally light it either looks like disaster striking or complete incompetence from the top. I expect a continual rotation of Schlupp, Ayew, Edouard, Mateta, Olise(??), Franca (????), Eze in the front 3 next season, without Roy or us knowing which combination will work best for any given game. I expect the same at RB too with Clyne/Ward/Richards/other. That's all before potential injuries. Perhaps a bit of catastrophising from me there but it doesn't look great as things stand. Would be lovely to go into the season with a bit of 'here we go, let's see what we can do' as opposed to 'I'm just praying this doesn't end in disaster'. I am more inclined towards the latter atm. #Palacefanlife Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Aug 23 2.43pm

'Dazza talk' (could have own tab on here) aside, here is the/a piece on Hodgson's concerns in the evening standard -
[Link]

I think he is correct to say so. If there are behind the scenes dealings it would be very strange indeed that Roy would not even have an inkling about them, though this could be the case. Even so, all very close to season start.

It's concerning when the first team is looking incomplete, and even then Olise may be going. When the squad looks equally light it either looks like disaster striking or complete incompetence from the top.

I expect a continual rotation of Schlupp, Ayew, Edouard, Mateta, Olise(??), Franca (????), Eze in the front 3 next season, without Roy or us knowing which combination will work best for any given game. I expect the same at RB too with Clyne/Ward/Richards/other. That's all before potential injuries.

Perhaps a bit of catastrophising from me there but it doesn't look great as things stand. Would be lovely to go into the season with a bit of 'here we go, let's see what we can do' as opposed to 'I'm just praying this doesn't end in disaster'. I am more inclined towards the latter atm. #Palacefanlife

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 01 Aug 23 2.57pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 This highlighted bit is all very well & good & TBF, most, if not all clubs, all want the same thing, BUT, there's always a but, clubs know we are going to lose Olise/Eze at some point & they are also aware we will need to replace them, so whether we buy replacements now(ish) or after they've gone, prices will still be high. I think if we are after a player of Olise's calibre in Olise's position, there are rumours of others sniffing around him, it's safe for the selling club to assume we are looking to replace him, so whether we do it before or after, in today's market doesn't make much of a difference. La la la your mum

madcap_v2

SE25 / Ibiza 01 Aug 23 2.57pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

This highlighted bit is all very well & good & TBF, most, if not all clubs, all want the same thing, BUT, there's always a but, clubs know we are going to lose Olise/Eze at some point & they are also aware we will need to replace them, so whether we buy replacements now(ish) or after they've gone, prices will still be high.

I think if we are after a player of Olise's calibre in Olise's position, there are rumours of others sniffing around him, it's safe for the selling club to assume we are looking to replace him, so whether we do it before or after, in today's market doesn't make much of a difference.

La la la your mum

Mwncisee Middlesbrough 01 Aug 23 3.01pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I may be wrong but I believe the mods have previously suggested this format for Dazza’s posts so, they would e easy to ignore for those who rubbish them Yep thats what they told me. As I have said before it obviously hasn't worked as this thread proves.

Mwncisee

Middlesbrough 01 Aug 23 3.01pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I may be wrong but I believe the mods have previously suggested this format for Dazza’s posts so, they would e easy to ignore for those who rubbish them

Yep thats what they told me. As I have said before it obviously hasn't worked as this thread proves.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Aug 23 3.07pm
I think Dazza should make an alpha numeric spreadsheet of our targets on Excel and then upload it as a file or a link. Then maybe a dossier with Word converted to PDF for each player. Nothing fancy, just a typical scouting report with number of touches per game, heat map etc. Of course, rough valuations and agent's contact details would be handy. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Aug 23 3.07pm

I think Dazza should make an alpha numeric spreadsheet of our targets on Excel and then upload it as a file or a link. Then maybe a dossier with Word converted to PDF for each player. Nothing fancy, just a typical scouting report with number of touches per game, heat map etc. Of course, rough valuations and agent's contact details would be handy.

Red and Blue Army!

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Aug 23 3.07pm
Our 2nd signing of the summer as per the club's website . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Aug 23 3.07pm

Our 2nd signing of the summer as per the club's website . . . [Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Aug 23 3.20pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Our 2nd signing of the summer as per the club's website . . . [Link] Somehow a player with 5 senior appearances for Weymouth doesn't quite elevate my expectations for the season as highly as I'd like. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Aug 23 3.20pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Our 2nd signing of the summer as per the club's website . . . [Link]

Somehow a player with 5 senior appearances for Weymouth doesn't quite elevate my expectations for the season as highly as I'd like.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 01 Aug 23 3.26pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Our 2nd signing of the summer as per the club's website . . . [Link] Get in there “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 01 Aug 23 3.26pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Our 2nd signing of the summer as per the club's website . . . [Link]

Get in there

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Canterbury Palace Whitstable 01 Aug 23 3.33pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 This highlighted bit is all very well & good & TBF, most, if not all clubs, all want the same thing, BUT, there's always a but, clubs know we are going to lose Olise/Eze at some point & they are also aware we will need to replace them, so whether we buy replacements now(ish) or after they've gone, prices will still be high. I take your point but still maintain that buying a replacement in advance is an infinitely superior option from our point of view. Not only does the selling club not know how much we have in our pocket from an Olise sale (anywhere between £35-70m according to the press) but also because he is under contract, we are not in a position of desperation. This is all assuming that he doesn't have this release clause but we can say to him "We will sell you Michael but only if we sign a replacement first and get a bid of this amount". Either of those things don't happen? We don't sell. That gives us power in the situation that we don't have by selling him first and then fannying around trying to buy a replacement on deadline day. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Canterbury Palace

Whitstable 01 Aug 23 3.33pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

I take your point but still maintain that buying a replacement in advance is an infinitely superior option from our point of view.

Not only does the selling club not know how much we have in our pocket from an Olise sale (anywhere between £35-70m according to the press) but also because he is under contract, we are not in a position of desperation.

This is all assuming that he doesn't have this release clause but we can say to him "We will sell you Michael but only if we sign a replacement first and get a bid of this amount".

Either of those things don't happen? We don't sell. That gives us power in the situation that we don't have by selling him first and then fannying around trying to buy a replacement on deadline day.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 01 Aug 23 3.33pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Somehow a player with 5 senior appearances for Weymouth doesn't quite elevate my expectations for the season as highly as I'd like. Nothing wrong with Weymouth mate

monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 01 Aug 23 3.33pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Somehow a player with 5 senior appearances for Weymouth doesn't quite elevate my expectations for the season as highly as I'd like.

Nothing wrong with Weymouth mate

steeleye20 Croydon 01 Aug 23 3.55pm
Roy 'seriously concerned at the strength of our squad'. [Link]

steeleye20

Croydon 01 Aug 23 3.55pm

Roy 'seriously concerned at the strength of our squad'.

[Link]

monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 01 Aug 23 4.06pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Roy 'seriously concerned at the strength of our squad'. [Link] I hardly call Jimmy Mac and Luka key players, much as I like McArthur we coped without him last season and Luka hasn’t been at his best or played much for a couple of years

monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 01 Aug 23 4.06pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Roy 'seriously concerned at the strength of our squad'.

[Link]

I hardly call Jimmy Mac and Luka key players, much as I like McArthur we coped without him last season and Luka hasn’t been at his best or played much for a couple of years

The Dolphin 01 Aug 23 4.22pm
The Manager is doing what they all do. To be fair, without depth we can't cope with injuries and if Olise is going - he wasn't going to be fit at the start anyway - then we are getting weaker. Imagine last season without Wilf and Olise - hmmm! I don't blame him for speaking out.

The Dolphin

01 Aug 23 4.22pm

The Manager is doing what they all do.
To be fair, without depth we can't cope with injuries and if Olise is going - he wasn't going to be fit at the start anyway - then we are getting weaker.
Imagine last season without Wilf and Olise - hmmm!
I don't blame him for speaking out.

Palacesince64 Edinburgh 01 Aug 23 4.24pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I’d certainly take Gnoto but Summerville possibly too over Gray. Just my opinion of course. I agree. Not sure what Gray has done to justify the interest to be honest. My mate is an Evertonian and he “can’t wait to see the back of the lazy so and so”. Lots of talent but not a great work ethic by all accounts.

Palacesince64

Edinburgh 01 Aug 23 4.24pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I’d certainly take Gnoto but Summerville possibly too over Gray. Just my opinion of course.

I agree. Not sure what Gray has done to justify the interest to be honest. My mate is an Evertonian and he “can’t wait to see the back of the lazy so and so”. Lots of talent but not a great work ethic by all accounts.

Davepalace707 Northumberland 01 Aug 23 4.26pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Roy 'seriously concerned at the strength of our squad'. [Link] Why did Roy think he was offered another 12 months?

Davepalace707

Northumberland 01 Aug 23 4.26pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Roy 'seriously concerned at the strength of our squad'.

[Link]

Why did Roy think he was offered another 12 months?

Putitout Oxford 01 Aug 23 4.26pm
It is worrying ,firstly because a number of those on here are well aware of the short comings in the squad, but for the manager to highlight it is really concerning. It indicates he isn’t aware of getting the players he clearly would want, dare say , expect. If there are irons in any fire Roy can’t know of them , or why make such a clear and obvious statement regarding the weakness of the squad? Bothered before,worried now.

Putitout

Oxford 01 Aug 23 4.26pm

It is worrying ,firstly because a number of those on here are well aware of the short comings in the squad, but for the manager to highlight it is really concerning.
It indicates he isn’t aware of getting the players he clearly would want, dare say ,
expect.
If there are irons in any fire Roy can’t know of them , or why make such a clear and obvious statement regarding the weakness of the squad? Bothered before,worried now.

Uphill Bedford 01 Aug 23 5.36pm
Originally posted by dazza Apparently we have opened talks with Arsenal over Balogun is what I’m being told. Hopefully I have worded this better for the moaners out there. Well, hopefully, I hope on this one you have got it wrong. I think it unlikely, possibly (and hopefully) a smokescreen to cover talks on someone else who (again hopefully) will be a hundred per cent improvement on Mateta and Edouard. Balogun won't be.

Uphill

Bedford 01 Aug 23 5.36pm

Originally posted by dazza

Apparently we have opened talks with Arsenal over Balogun is what I’m being told.

Hopefully I have worded this better for the moaners out there.

Well, hopefully, I hope on this one you have got it wrong.
I think it unlikely, possibly (and hopefully) a smokescreen to cover talks on someone else who (again hopefully) will be a hundred per cent improvement on Mateta and Edouard. Balogun won't be.

taylors lovechild 01 Aug 23 5.39pm
Originally posted by Putitout It is worrying ,firstly because a number of those on here are well aware of the short comings in the squad, but for the manager to highlight it is really concerning. It indicates he isn’t aware of getting the players he clearly would want, dare say , expect. If there are irons in any fire Roy can’t know of them , or why make such a clear and obvious statement regarding the weakness of the squad? Bothered before,worried now. It really is déjà vu to hear Roy stating we're short on numbers with just over a week before the season starts. Who is the other star player that we lost though? Does he mean Luka or McArthur? I was concerned that may have been a slip of the tongue to indicate Olise is off.

taylors lovechild

01 Aug 23 5.39pm

Originally posted by Putitout

It really is déjà vu to hear Roy stating we're short on numbers with just over a week before the season starts. Who is the other star player that we lost though? Does he mean Luka or McArthur? I was concerned that may have been a slip of the tongue to indicate Olise is off.

Teddy Eagle 01 Aug 23 5.40pm
Originally posted by Uphill Well, hopefully, I hope on this one you have got it wrong. I think it unlikely, possibly (and hopefully) a smokescreen to cover talks on someone else who (again hopefully) will be a hundred per cent improvement on Mateta and Edouard. Balogun won't be. According to this he's too expensive for Inter Milan so it's unlikely we can afford him. [Link]

Teddy Eagle

01 Aug 23 5.40pm

Originally posted by Uphill

According to this he's too expensive for Inter Milan so it's unlikely we can afford him.

[Link]

dazza Wallington 01 Aug 23 5.57pm
In regards to Balogun Arsenal are going to lower the asking price as no one is willing to Pay what they want so £25m might end up being the price.

dazza

Wallington 01 Aug 23 5.57pm

In regards to Balogun Arsenal are going to lower the asking price as no one is willing to
Pay what they want so £25m might end up being the price.

Helmet46 Croydon 01 Aug 23 5.58pm
Originally posted by Davepalace707 Why did Roy think he was offered another 12 months? Same old story. It’s a dangerous game relying on him to keep us up with a threadbare squad. He didn’t do it for Watford. I reckon this could be the season that Parish’s luck runs out.

Helmet46

Croydon 01 Aug 23 5.58pm

Originally posted by Davepalace707

Why did Roy think he was offered another 12 months?

Same old story. It’s a dangerous game relying on him to keep us up with a threadbare squad. He didn’t do it for Watford.
I reckon this could be the season that Parish’s luck runs out.

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