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 Rubin  21 Feb 16 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The EU isn't so bad. It has given us some great things over the decades and has a positive impact for many millions here in the UK today. If it truly was that awful as some have convinced themselves it is 75% would be voting 'Out'. The last sentance is way off in my opinion. The majority of people just swallow and believe whatever they're told by the BBC and similar, and Cameron. I'm sure you'd never normally trust Cameron, so I'm surprised you're listening to him on this.
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| chris123 hove actually 21 Feb 16 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Yes but when we entered the EU back in 1973 we had the 3rd largest economy in the world! Well there have been some interesting stats on the various threads, but this looks most unlikely. The US, USSR, Japan, West Germany and France would all have been bigger.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Feb 16 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It's called a hypothetical question, Matthew, where one can still have an opinion where evidence doesn't exist because it didn't happen. Even Ralph Wiggum would get that. Just. If that is your angle do you then have any hard evidence that we will still be the fifth largest economy in the years to come if we leave the Show me the figures. Michael, you are the one the making the statements, I am questioning hem. Therefore, as previously requested, please provide your figures to back up your claims. BTW, you are not asking a hypothetical question, you are making a loaded question. There is a difference and you know it.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Feb 16 1.43pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Kermy - there is no evidence to suggest being part of the EU has led to our economy being 5th largest either. As I said (and await your reply Sir) where would our economy be now if we had adopted the Euro? All the scaremongering for that debate is being dragged up again for this referendum - "we'll be in the slow lane, no one will trade with us, we'll be out on a limb, etc etc. Lets stick to what we know and debate that. My opinion is that the economy will benefit in some ways by leaving and lose on others. Nothing significantly detrimental will occur as with sticking with the pound demonstrated to those scaremongering. This debate is more about the kind of life we will all have in the next 50 years if we vote to stay in the EU and how our infrastructure can cope with millions more living here I think. Hoof, I don't think there is much point I engaging with Michael. His position is that if you vote out, you are a 'Little Englander swivel eyed racist'. This comes from a man who has made his feelings towards ethnic minorities known by moving as far away from them as possible and engaging with them as few a times as he can, maybe when they fix his guttering or make him a flat white in his local branch of Nero's. It is not rational and I believe there are some serious psychological reasons why he is taking this stance.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Feb 16 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Hoof, I don't think there is much point I engaging with Michael. His position is that if you vote out, you are a 'Little Englander swivel eyed racist'. This comes from a man who has made his feelings towards ethnic minorities known by moving as far away from them as possible and engaging with them as few a times as he can, maybe when they fix his guttering or make him a flat white in his local branch of Nero's. It is not rational and I believe there are some serious psychological reasons why he is taking this stance. Playing the man again. Well done.
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Kermit8  Hevon 21 Feb 16 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Hoof, I don't think there is much point I engaging with Michael. His position is that if you vote out, you are a 'Little Englander swivel eyed racist'. This comes from a man who has made his feelings towards ethnic minorities known by moving as far away from them as possible and engaging with them as few a times as he can, maybe when they fix his guttering or make him a flat white in his local branch of Nero's. It is not rational and I believe there are some serious psychological reasons why he is taking this stance. *yawn* Tedious stuff, Matthew. The last bit is, I assume, some kind of tardy riposte to a past slight? Must have hit a nerve whatever is was. Oh, and you must think then everyone who relocates from London has only done it because of the foreigners? How unbelievably narrow minded. And you. Have you ever lived anywhere else apart from Uni for any significant amount of time that didn't have a CRO postcode? You act like you haven't.
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| Sportyteacher London 21 Feb 16 6.24pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
The last sentance is way off in my opinion. The majority of people just swallow and believe whatever they're told by the BBC and similar, and Cameron. I'm sure you'd never normally trust Cameron, so I'm surprised you're listening to him on this. So who did YOU vote for in last General Election then given that Labour also wants to stay in EU?
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 21 Feb 16 6.33pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
We have the fifth largest economy in the world and we have been part of the common Euro market for many, many decades now. Wonder where we would be if we had voted 'leave' back in 1975? Certainly not in this mess now ????
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BarEagle  Monmouth 21 Feb 16 6.59pm |
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I am voting leave, leave, leave.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Feb 16 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by Red Al
If the "no" vote wins, Cameron will be forced to resign and Johnson will become PM. So it's an easy decision...vote "yes" to stay in Europe and keep Johnson out of Downing Street! I don't share your view that Cameron will be forced to resign if the UK voters "Leave". Furthermore it is a great "Leap of the imagination" at this juncture to profess that Johnson will become PM. Regards Johnson, I am delighted that he will campaign for "Leave" as he is political box-office.
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| Red Al Reading 21 Feb 16 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I don't share your view that Cameron will be forced to resign if the UK voters "Leave". Furthermore it is a great "Leap of the imagination" at this juncture to profess that Johnson will become PM. Regards Johnson, I am delighted that he will campaign for "Leave" as he is political box-office. Everything Johnson does is intended to promote himself and get him into Downing Street...
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Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 21 Feb 16 8.25pm |
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Sovereignty? Sovereignty? What sort of enhanced sovereignty will the average Joe enjoy when we leave?
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| lankygit Lincoln 21 Feb 16 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Yes but when we entered the EU back in 1973 we had the 3rd largest economy in the world! According to this it was the 7th largest, behind (not in order of size) France,Germany,USSR,USA,Japan,and China.
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| OldFella London 21 Feb 16 10.12pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Playing the man again. Well done. Nick - your comment plays the man also?
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Feb 16 10.19pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
*yawn* Tedious stuff, Matthew. The last bit is, I assume, some kind of tardy riposte to a past slight? Must have hit a nerve whatever is was. Oh, and you must think then everyone who relocates from London has only done it because of the foreigners? How unbelievably narrow minded. And you. Have you ever lived anywhere else apart from Uni for any significant amount of time that didn't have a CRO postcode? You act like you haven't. Michael, you could try and answer the questions put to you. For example, providing back up for your scaremongering with actual figures. I don't think everyone who leaves London does it to escape foreigners, I have never said that, but I believe you did. And you try and compensate for this by being ultra PC about the subject.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Feb 16 10.19pm |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Nick - your comment plays the man also? No, it makes a point. BTW. I read your post in an Australian accent for some reason...
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