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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 07 Jun 17 10.49am

Originally posted by nickgusset

So Khuram Butt, the London Bridge attacker, was a supporter of Anjem Choudary? The British media has a lot to answer for. The media gave Anjem Choudary a platform to spew his hate.

Not us Muslims. We threw him out of our Mosques. He wasn't allowed to speak there. But the Media lapped him. Anjem was a regular guest on news panels, discussion shows & given plenty of column inches in the newspapers. But us Muslims. We kept telling you,"He doesn't represent us, Why are you giving Anjem Choudary, the hate preacher, a platform?" Young, impressionable Muslim men are drawn in by the well-spoken Choudary, who seems to be the only one speaking up for Muslims!! So how are these young men radicalised? Because media gave Anjem Choudary that platform to draw them in. The media loved Anjem. And he loved them! Did the media ever tell you how stage-managed Anjem's demos were, so it appeared that Anjem Choudary had more supporters than he actually did?

OK, Let me show you how the media portrayed Anjem Choudary as if he was a leader of UK Muslims, when he has ALWAYS been rejected by us! Here's Anjem Choudary on Fox News (1), where he is being described as "Leader of Islam for the UK". LMAO! The media made him a “Leader”!

This is Anjem Choudary at one of his demos with thousands of his followers (2), or so the media will have you believe. Let me tell you about Anjem's "Demonstrations" & his “rallies". They always took place OUTSIDE mosques at 1.45pm on a FRIDAY afternoon. The timing of this is crucial. 1.45pm is just AFTER Jummah [Friday] prayers, which in the case of Regents Park Mosque, thousands of worshipers attend. The Police assist in this charade by setting up barriers just outside the main entrance to Regents Park Mosque, a good two hours before (3). Then at 1.45pm when the Jummah prayers finish, the Police say the thousands of peaceful worshipers must leave only from the front entrance (4). Act 3 of this elaborate stage-play is Anjem and his 2 dozen supporters appear at the front gate of the Mosque with their flags & banners (5). Since Police are directing thousands of worshipers leaving the Mosque, to the front entrance, a bottleneck is created.

And you get this! THERE YOU HAVE IT!

The picture they wanted: Anjem Choudary & his thousands of Islamists followers who are demanding Sharia Law in the UK.

IT’S ALL A CON! AND YOU ALL FELL FOR IT!

Us Muslims were telling you, he doesn't represent us. Your Media & Your Govt promoted him, Not us.

But what if I was a vulnerable young Muslim watching Anjem on TV? “Wow! Look at him! He's always on TV! He must be an important Muslim” Because Nicky Campbell loved him on "The Big Questions”, because Paxman loved him on NewsNight, because Andrew Neil loved him on "This Week". They, the media created Anjem Choudary. They alone promoted him. Not us Muslims. The Media radicalised Khuram Butt. They were accomplices.

The left wing, who have been apologists for the likes of Choudary for years, are now saying that it is all the fault of the right wing media for reporting on him!

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 17 11.18am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

The left wing, who have been apologists for the likes of Choudary for years, are now saying that it is all the fault of the right wing media for reporting on him!

There's a difference between reporting on and allowing space for hate speech.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jun 17 11.23am

Originally posted by nickgusset

So Khuram Butt, the London Bridge attacker, was a supporter of Anjem Choudary? The British media has a lot to answer for. The media gave Anjem Choudary a platform to spew his hate.

Not us Muslims. We threw him out of our Mosques. He wasn't allowed to speak there. But the Media lapped him. Anjem was a regular guest on news panels, discussion shows & given plenty of column inches in the newspapers. But us Muslims. We kept telling you,"He doesn't represent us, Why are you giving Anjem Choudary, the hate preacher, a platform?" Young, impressionable Muslim men are drawn in by the well-spoken Choudary, who seems to be the only one speaking up for Muslims!! So how are these young men radicalised? Because media gave Anjem Choudary that platform to draw them in. The media loved Anjem. And he loved them! Did the media ever tell you how stage-managed Anjem's demos were, so it appeared that Anjem Choudary had more supporters than he actually did?

OK, Let me show you how the media portrayed Anjem Choudary as if he was a leader of UK Muslims, when he has ALWAYS been rejected by us! Here's Anjem Choudary on Fox News (1), where he is being described as "Leader of Islam for the UK". LMAO! The media made him a “Leader”!

This is Anjem Choudary at one of his demos with thousands of his followers (2), or so the media will have you believe. Let me tell you about Anjem's "Demonstrations" & his “rallies". They always took place OUTSIDE mosques at 1.45pm on a FRIDAY afternoon. The timing of this is crucial. 1.45pm is just AFTER Jummah [Friday] prayers, which in the case of Regents Park Mosque, thousands of worshipers attend. The Police assist in this charade by setting up barriers just outside the main entrance to Regents Park Mosque, a good two hours before (3). Then at 1.45pm when the Jummah prayers finish, the Police say the thousands of peaceful worshipers must leave only from the front entrance (4). Act 3 of this elaborate stage-play is Anjem and his 2 dozen supporters appear at the front gate of the Mosque with their flags & banners (5). Since Police are directing thousands of worshipers leaving the Mosque, to the front entrance, a bottleneck is created.

And you get this! THERE YOU HAVE IT!

The picture they wanted: Anjem Choudary & his thousands of Islamists followers who are demanding Sharia Law in the UK.

IT’S ALL A CON! AND YOU ALL FELL FOR IT!

Us Muslims were telling you, he doesn't represent us. Your Media & Your Govt promoted him, Not us.

But what if I was a vulnerable young Muslim watching Anjem on TV? “Wow! Look at him! He's always on TV! He must be an important Muslim” Because Nicky Campbell loved him on "The Big Questions”, because Paxman loved him on NewsNight, because Andrew Neil loved him on "This Week". They, the media created Anjem Choudary. They alone promoted him. Not us Muslims. The Media radicalised Khuram Butt. They were accomplices.

If these bellends get distorted exposure on TV, it's the fault of the liberal/left who dominate the visual media. I can't believe you have the gall to complain about it. It is people like you who promote it.

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 07 Jun 17 11.26am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If these bellends get distorted exposure on TV, it's the fault of the liberal/left who dominate the visual media. I can't believe you have the gall to complain about it. It is people like you who promote it.

Top left pic of Choudary has him talking to Fox News. Hardly a bastion of left-wing activism that company, is it?

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 07 Jun 17 11.30am

..and I remember LBC and James Whale giving Choudary's mentor Omar Bakhri Mohamed airtime every weekend for a few years.

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 07 Jun 17 11.38am

Back to D-Day (Again)

1 Planning for Operation Overlord began in earnest in 1943 with Dwight D Eisenhower made supreme commander. British general Bernard Montgomery, hero of the Eighth Army in North Africa, was put in charge of the ground troops.

2 About 3,200 reconnaissance missions were launched in the run-up to the invasion to take photos of vital locations.

3 In the summer of 1943 an early copy of the plans blew out of a window in Norfolk House, London. A man who was passing by handed them in, saying his sight was too bad to read them.

4 Beach landings in Normandy were chosen instead of the Pas-de-Calais because defences were lighter and advancing troops would have fewer rivers and canals to cross.

5 There were to be five landing zones along a 50-mile stretch of coast. The Americans would attack at Utah and Omaha, the British at Gold and Sword and Canadian troops at Juno.

6 D-Day was originally set for June 5 but had to be postponed for 24 hours because of bad weather.

7 The “D” in D-Day actually only stood for Day and was simply used to preserve secrecy.

8 On April 28 1944 off Slapton Sands in Devon 946 American servicemen were killed when German torpedo boats sank a convoy of ships involved in a D-Day dress rehearsal.

9 A phantom army of dummy camps, planes and tanks was constructed in Kent and Essex in order to deceive Germans into thinking the invasion would be at Calais.

10 Spanish-born double agent Garbo also plied the Germans with misinformation that led them to believe the Normandy landings were just a ruse.

11 In May 1944 crucial codewords for D-Day began appearing in Daily Telegraph crosswords. An MI5 investigation failed to find any evidence of foul play.

12 Allied troops faced formidable defences as part of Hitler’s Atlantic Wall, which had been built all along the coast using 100,000 workers.

13 High command thought a successful landing would cost 10,000 dead and 30,000 wounded – 30,000 stretchers and 60,000 blankets were issued.

14 New gadgets designed for D-Day included a “swimming tank” and a flame throwing tank called “the crocodile”. There were even collapsible motorbikes.

15 Terence Otway, whose unit was tasked with taking the vital Merville battery, decided to test security among his men. He sent 30 members of the Women’s Auxiliary Air Force to local pubs to see if any of his troops would divulge the top secret plan – none did.

16 The night before the landings nervous Prime Minister Winston Churchill said to his wife: “Do you realise that by the time you wake up in the morning 20,000 men may have been killed?”

17 On the eve of battle Eisenhower told troops: “You are about to embark upon a great crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you.”

18 He also wrote a draft statement in case the landings failed which read: “I have withdrawn the troops… If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.” 19 Coded messages were sent to alert French Resistance to begin a programme of sabotage. Phrases used included “the dice is on the carpet” – an order to destroy trains and railway lines.

20 The naval operation, codenamed Operation Neptune, involved an armada of 6,939 vessels including 4,126 landing craft – the largest single day amphibious invasion of all time. On June 5 they assembled at a point known as Piccadilly Circus off the Isle of Wight.

21 From 11pm on June 5 some 24,000 airborne troops were delivered behind the German lines to secure important roads and bridges. Along with more than 2,000 aircraft 867 gliders were used. Dummy paratroopers were also dropped to help convince the Germans that the real landings would take place elsewhere.

22 The first British casualty on D-Day was Lt “Den” Brotheridge, shot in the neck shortly after landing in France in a glider at 00.16am. His unit was tasked with taking the crucial target of Pegasus Bridge, an objective that was achieved.

23 Many paratroopers that day were dropped in the wrong place including US Private John Steele. His parachute famously became snagged on the church steeple at Sainte-Mère- Eglise. He was trapped for two hours before being taken prisoner.

24 At 3am 1,900 Allied bombers attacked German lines. A staggering seven million pounds of bombs were dropped that day. A total of 10,521 combat aircraft flew a total of 15,000 sorties on D-Day, with 113 lost.

25 A naval bombardment from seven battleships, 18 cruisers, and 43 destroyers began at 5am and went on until 6.25am. Midget submarines, called X-boats, lay submerged in the sea off the coast of France, surfacing on the morning of D-Day to guide in the invading craft using beacons.

26 The flat-bottomed landing craft were originally designed to rescue flood victims on the Mississippi river in the US.

27 US troops went ashore on the landing beaches at 6.31am, followed an hour later by the British and Canadians on their beaches. There were 61,715 British troops, 21,400 Canadian soldiers and 73,000 Americans.

28 Defences on the beaches included concrete gun emplacements, wooden stakes, mines, anti-tank obstacles, barbed wire and booby traps. Around 50,000 German troops opposed the landing forces.

29 Field Marshal Erwin Rommel was in charge of defending northern France from the expected Allied invasion. On June 6 he was at home in Germany celebrating his wife’s 50th birthday having been told the sea was too rough for a landing.

30 Nazi leader Adolf Hitler was asleep when word of the invasion arrived. No one dared wake him and it’s said vital time was lost in sending reinforcements.

31 The heaviest losses were on Omaha beach where US forces suffered 2,000 casualties. Canadian forces met heavy resistance on Juno. In the first hour the chance of becoming a casualty was one in two.

32 The newly developed drug penicillin went with troops on D-Day and saved thousands of lives.

33 Condoms were issued to soldiers – most were used for covering the end of their rifles to keep them dry.

34 Despite setbacks, including the failure to capture the city of Caen, D-Day saw the Allies establish a successful beachhead from which they could continue the invasion of Normandy. By the evening of the first day, along with more than 150,000 men, 20,000 vehicles had been landed.

35 The Allies ferried two prefabricated harbours called Mulberries across the Channel to help supply the beachhead with equipment. The one at Arromanches involved 600,000 tons of concrete.

36 Total Allied casualties on D-Day were much lighter than feared – around 10,000 with 4,572 killed including 1,641 Brits. The Germans are estimated to have lost about 9,000.

37 Actor Richard Todd starred in The Longest Day, a 1962 film about D-Day, as Major John Howard. He was involved in the real landings as an officer in the 7th Parachute Battalion.

38 James Doohan, who would go on to find fame as Scotty in Star Trek, was a lieutenant in the Royal Canadian Artillery on D-Day and lost a finger during the fray.

39 The stunning Omaha Beach scene in the 1998 movie Saving Private Ryan, starring Tom Hanks, cost £7million to film and used 1,000 extras.

40 Famous photographer Robert Capa captured some of the most memorable images of the action though only a handful of the frames he took survived. The others were accidently destroyed by a lab technician.

 


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johnny the eagle Flag wivenhoe 07 Jun 17 12.35pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

The Normandy beaches do provide us with a bit of a glimpse into what those poor sods in the landing craft went through, and their memories should never fade.

No D Day would have meant no Operation Bagration on the Eastern Front, which would have meant the war dragging on even longer than it eventually did.

At least those who died on the beaches died trying to achieve something. A trip to the Menin Gate and spending some time touring the WW1 sites in Flanders is heartbreaking.

Never forget.

My memory is not too good but I was in Belgium in 1965 or 1966 in Ypres. The Queen was there at the time along with a lot of the old soldiers who served in WW1. I was member of the Corp of Drums in my regiment. We had the privilege of sounding the Last Post at the Menin Gate for a whole week at 5 o' clock in the afternoon when they stop all traffic as a mark of respect. I had a chat with a lot of those old soldiers very, very humbling. Very brave all of them and every one of them a true Hero. Along wìth all those who have died or been wounded and have served this country in a&#314;l conflicts.

 


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red and blue till im dead.

johnny the eagle Flag wivenhoe 07 Jun 17 12.42pm

Don't know what happened there, tablet on the blink last sentence should have read. " Along with all those who have died or been wounded and have served this country in all conflicts "

 


South London born and bred
red and blue till im dead.

legaleagle Flag 07 Jun 17 9.44pm

Originally posted by johnny the eagle

My memory is not too good but I was in Belgium in 1965 or 1966 in Ypres. The Queen was there at the time along with a lot of the old soldiers who served in WW1. I was member of the Corp of Drums in my regiment. We had the privilege of sounding the Last Post at the Menin Gate for a whole week at 5 o' clock in the afternoon when they stop all traffic as a mark of respect. I had a chat with a lot of those old soldiers very, very humbling. Very brave all of them and every one of them a true Hero. Along wìth all those who have died or been wounded and have served this country in a&#314;l conflicts.

Seeing the Menin gate is a truly humbling experience.Must have been an incredible experience playing the Last Post on an occasion like that...we go on (rightly) about D Day and Monte Cassino but what those guys went though on the western front in the first world war was on a whole other level..

 

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