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davidpercival Flag Croydon 05 Dec 18 7.27pm

that doesn't work as a metaphor if it happens slowly.

Originally posted by .TUX.

Globally.
The s*** is slowly hitting the fan peeps.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 06 Dec 18 12.08am

Originally posted by Lyons550

I would concur...I agree they will drop...but 'surprising' NO, 'crash' NO...the market will simply cost (and has been doing so for the last 15months) the 'potential' effects of Brexit into the mix.

PV...what's your def of a 'surprise' and 'crash' and I may also have a tenner on it

12 months from today. Average All London prices....down 3% overall.

and a tenner to my local cancer research charity shop if i am wrong ( without collecting the smelly jumper).

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 06 Dec 18 3.12pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

So we'll ignore the financial problems that currently plague the globe and continually concentrate on what amounts to a 'blip' in the grand scheme of things?

Blinkered thinking at best.

Ok...remove the 'blinkers' then whats your metric?

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 06 Dec 18 3.13pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

12 months from today. Average All London prices....down 3% overall.

and a tenner to my local cancer research charity shop if i am wrong ( without collecting the smelly jumper).

3% !!! Is that it? I thought you mentioned a CRASH? Back up your doom mongering with a sensible CRASH like figure and i'm in

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 06 Dec 18 3.20pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

3% !!! Is that it? I thought you mentioned a CRASH? Back up your doom mongering with a sensible CRASH like figure and i'm in

the 1989 crash lasted for seven years. 3% per year, compound. You do the maths. For a One Million quid house, that will be a wheelbarrow full of cash.

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 06 Dec 18 3.35pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the 1989 crash lasted for seven years. 3% per year, compound. You do the maths. For a One Million quid house, that will be a wheelbarrow full of cash.


But its expected that there will be a drop over the next 2 to 3 years as a result of Brexit anyway. Blimey i mentioned this on here last year!

I thought you were telling us something that wasn't already common thought. Also using London (the most over inflated sector) is an easy win....disappointing

If TUX's theory about global economics is also at play then 3% over a 12mnth period doesn't cut it for me.

Now if you said over the next 2 years i'd expect the average house price across Greater Londonwas to fall by -15% then I'd be listening.


Edited by Lyons550 (06 Dec 2018 3.36pm)

 


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.TUX. Flag 06 Dec 18 7.55pm

Originally posted by the.universal

Come on TUX, let’s have another charity bet for next year, name your metric!

I've already cancelled Christmas due to you bud, i have nothing left to give :'(

Edited by .TUX. (06 Dec 2018 7.56pm)

 


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.TUX. Flag 06 Dec 18 8.02pm

Originally posted by Lyons550


But its expected that there will be a drop over the next 2 to 3 years as a result of Brexit anyway. Blimey i mentioned this on here last year!

I thought you were telling us something that wasn't already common thought. Also using London (the most over inflated sector) is an easy win....disappointing

If TUX's theory about global economics is also at play then 3% over a 12mnth period doesn't cut it for me.

Now if you said over the next 2 years i'd expect the average house price across Greater Londonwas to fall by -15% then I'd be listening.


Edited by Lyons550 (06 Dec 2018 3.36pm)

Rising wedges, inverted yield curves, the list goes on and on.
This bubble is looking for a pin.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Dec 18 12.21am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Rising wedges, inverted yield curves, the list goes on and on.
This bubble is looking for a pin.

look at the data link of prices i posted above.

1989 to 1993....£63,000 down to £50,000

that is a price drop of nearly 21 %. It cost the PM her job. I can clearly remember a whole generation locked into negative equity.

 


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the.universal 07 Dec 18 12.22am

Originally posted by .TUX.

I've already cancelled Christmas due to you bud, i have nothing left to give :'(

Edited by .TUX. (06 Dec 2018 7.56pm)

That’s all good mate, no worries on paying out (assuming I win) if that’s a stretch. More of a gentleman’s bet really. Double or quits?

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 14 Feb 19 11.13am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I sold the last of my bricks and mortar last month as I am expecting a serious slump.
This country is looking bleak.

I am going to win my bet. The London slump is all over the property pages again today.

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 14 Feb 19 11.26am

Oh those poor developers rushing to finish projects to cut their losses.

Win-win for the first time buyers

 

Lyons550 Flag Shirley 14 Feb 19 3.31pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

I am going to win my bet. The London slump is all over the property pages again today.

...but as covered a few posts up...you were never really telling us anything that wasn't common sense/knowledge...shooting fish in a barrel isn't something to get excited about; though you do clearly have an issue with the property market..

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 14 Feb 19 6.07pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Oh those poor developers rushing to finish projects to cut their losses.

Win-win for the first time buyers

Yes its a win for first time buyers - its a lose however for first time buyers (or anyone) who has purchased within the last five years and can now no longer sell due to negative equity or can afford to rent it out due to falling rents and new tax implications on rental properties.

Just like any market - there are winners and losers.


I'm one of those poor developers you mention however I have not purchased any properties in the south for nearly two years due to not wanting to buy during a falling market. Recently I have been buying exclusively up north where house prices have carried on rising and yields are almost double. I am however, now looking to buy locally again, just waiting until we hit the bottom.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 14 Feb 19 6.09pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

...but as covered a few posts up...you were never really telling us anything that wasn't common sense/knowledge...shooting fish in a barrel isn't something to get excited about; though you do clearly have an issue with the property market..

Next he'll be telling us that the internet will take off

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 14 Feb 19 7.14pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I sold the last of my bricks and mortar last month as I am expecting a serious slump.
This country is looking bleak.

On pallets or loose?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 14 Feb 19 9.59pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep.

We need new cities let alone new homes!

The last few governments have allowed the nation's population to grow at such a rate ahead of house building that they have criminally forsaken younger people's chances of having a reasonable place of their own.

Tory, Labour or whatever, they are all culpable and all a complete and utter shower.

Governments have been allowing a 'ponzi scheme' on population growth in this country....because they won't be around to pick up the pieces after their terms of office.

Housing should always have been a priority, especially since the success of life expectancy adds to the growth problem of immigrants who stay.

Completely agree

But no government will go anywhere near this far - political suicide. No measure that is introduced that results in lowering house prices will be tolerated by a significant portion of the voting electorate (ie the middle classes). It’s such a massive part of our culture that it’s impossible to change it.

 


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W12 14 Feb 19 10.09pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Completely agree

But no government will go anywhere near this far - political suicide. No measure that is introduced that results in lowering house prices will be tolerated by a significant portion of the voting electorate (ie the middle classes). It’s such a massive part of our culture that it’s impossible to change it.

The political class no longer seem to see beyond their own life span.

It’s interesting that most of the major leaders of the West other than Trump have no children. Perhaps a coincidence. Perhaps.

 

Lyons550 Flag Shirley 15 Feb 19 3.45pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Yes its a win for first time buyers - its a lose however for first time buyers (or anyone) who has purchased within the last five years and can now no longer sell due to negative equity or can afford to rent it out due to falling rents and new tax implications on rental properties.

Just like any market - there are winners and losers.


I'm one of those poor developers you mention however I have not purchased any properties in the south for nearly two years due to not wanting to buy during a falling market. Recently I have been buying exclusively up north where house prices have carried on rising and yields are almost double. I am however, now looking to buy locally again, just waiting until we hit the bottom.


Planning another trip to Hull myself in a few weeks for the same reason.

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 15 Feb 19 3.46pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Next he'll be telling us that the internet will take off

...and that 'Garlic bread is the future'

 


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