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Stirlingsays 02 Dec 18 8.32pm
Originally posted by Casual That’s the thing though. He looked like he’d been shot ? Hit the deck, was expecting to see him on a stretcher, then he got up and looked like he was in the first round of an easy spar, never seen anything like it. Edited by Casual (02 Dec 2018 6.13pm) Ditto....it's already a bit of boxing history. Much as I'm not that much of a fan of Fury I can see them making a film about his comeback and the fight.....there's something of the gypsy Rocky about it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Dec 18 8.32pm

Originally posted by Casual

That’s the thing though. He looked like he’d been shot ? Hit the deck, was expecting to see him on a stretcher, then he got up and looked like he was in the first round of an easy spar, never seen anything like it.

Edited by Casual (02 Dec 2018 6.13pm)

Ditto....it's already a bit of boxing history.

Much as I'm not that much of a fan of Fury I can see them making a film about his comeback and the fight.....there's something of the gypsy Rocky about it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

black eagle. south croydon. 02 Dec 18 11.08pm
Lennox Lewis was at ringside and thought Fury won the fight easily.

black eagle.

south croydon. 02 Dec 18 11.08pm

Lennox Lewis was at ringside and thought Fury won the fight easily.

black eagle. south croydon. 02 Dec 18 11.19pm
Originally posted by Casual Yes. Thought wilders stamina looked suspect. Always dangerous though. Still don’t know how fury got up after them 2 punches. Think AJ beats them both. I don't how Fury got up either but yes I agree think AJ beats them both.

black eagle.

south croydon. 02 Dec 18 11.19pm

Originally posted by Casual

Yes. Thought wilders stamina looked suspect. Always dangerous though.
Still don’t know how fury got up after them 2 punches.
Think AJ beats them both.

I don't how Fury got up either but yes I agree think AJ beats them both.

Tom-the-eagle Croydon 02 Dec 18 11.31pm
I'm not sure AJ does beat those two. Not saying he won't either mind you. As they say, styles make fights and often it depends whose style does/doesn't suit you. One things for certain,there are three heavyweights now who sit on top of the pile. The second tier of heavyweights are also strong however these three are top of the tree and it would be great to have some kind of round robin where they all fight each other. Whilst I think AJ is the best all rounder, I think Fury is the best boxer and wilder the most powerful. Not sure AJ would have got up from one of those DW bombs last night. Edited by Tom-the-eagle (02 Dec 2018 11.32pm) "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Croydon 02 Dec 18 11.31pm

I'm not sure AJ does beat those two. Not saying he won't either mind you.

As they say, styles make fights and often it depends whose style does/doesn't suit you.

One things for certain,there are three heavyweights now who sit on top of the pile. The second tier of heavyweights are also strong however these three are top of the tree and it would be great to have some kind of round robin where they all fight each other.

Whilst I think AJ is the best all rounder, I think Fury is the best boxer and wilder the most powerful.

Not sure AJ would have got up from one of those DW bombs last night.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (02 Dec 2018 11.32pm)

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

black eagle. south croydon. 03 Dec 18 7.38am
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle I'm not sure AJ does beat those two. Not saying he won't either mind you. As they say, styles make fights and often it depends whose style does/doesn't suit you. One things for certain,there are three heavyweights now who sit on top of the pile. The second tier of heavyweights are also strong however these three are top of the tree and it would be great to have some kind of round robin where they all fight each other. Whilst I think AJ is the best all rounder, I think Fury is the best boxer and wilder the most powerful. Not sure AJ would have got up from one of those DW bombs last night. Edited by Tom-the-eagle (02 Dec 2018 11.32pm) AJ got up of the deck and stopped Klichko,so if you think AJ gets knocked down and doesn't get up and win fights think again.

black eagle.

south croydon. 03 Dec 18 7.38am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I'm not sure AJ does beat those two. Not saying he won't either mind you.

As they say, styles make fights and often it depends whose style does/doesn't suit you.

Whilst I think AJ is the best all rounder, I think Fury is the best boxer and wilder the most powerful.

Not sure AJ would have got up from one of those DW bombs last night.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (02 Dec 2018 11.32pm)

AJ got up of the deck and stopped Klichko,so if you think AJ gets knocked down and doesn't get up and win fights think again.

Pussay Patrol 03 Dec 18 9.19am
Originally posted by black eagle. AJ got up of the deck and stopped Klichko,so if you think AJ gets knocked down and doesn't get up and win fights think again. Totally agree, and I don't think Wilder is a bigger puncher than AJ, both those knockdowns were not clean hits, the first was on the side of his head and Fury lost balance, 2nd one he hit him clean but as he was going down. AJ thumps you clean no-one is getting up Look at Wilders face, Fury landed Alot of good punches, AJ would mash him up Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

03 Dec 18 9.19am

Originally posted by black eagle.

AJ got up of the deck and stopped Klichko,so if you think AJ gets knocked down and doesn't get up and win fights think again.

Totally agree, and I don't think Wilder is a bigger puncher than AJ, both those knockdowns were not clean hits, the first was on the side of his head and Fury lost balance, 2nd one he hit him clean but as he was going down.

AJ thumps you clean no-one is getting up

Look at Wilders face, Fury landed Alot of good punches, AJ would mash him up

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Stirlingsays 03 Dec 18 9.32am
Wilder has the biggest knockout percentage in heavyweight champion history. Joshua is a big puncher but no one serious within boxing puts any current heavyweight as having heavier hands than Wilder. That said, I back Joshua to beat him.....but it's a shoot out and if Wilder connects properly it usually puts anyone to sleep. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 9.33am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Dec 18 9.32am

Wilder has the biggest knockout percentage in heavyweight champion history.

Joshua is a big puncher but no one serious within boxing puts any current heavyweight as having heavier hands than Wilder.

That said, I back Joshua to beat him.....but it's a shoot out and if Wilder connects properly it usually puts anyone to sleep.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 9.33am)

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Casual Orpington 03 Dec 18 11.08am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Wilder has the biggest knockout percentage in heavyweight champion history. Joshua is a big puncher but no one serious within boxing puts any current heavyweight as having heavier hands than Wilder. That said, I back Joshua to beat him.....but it's a shoot out and if Wilder connects properly it usually puts anyone to sleep. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 9.33am) Agree, but Joshua isn’t looking for 1 big punch. He’s heavy handed, but throws more combinations than Wilder. Think Joshua would break both of them down over time, also don’t think he would start as slow as wilder either. But then I was 100% sure that Wilder would spark Fury.

Casual

Orpington 03 Dec 18 11.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Wilder has the biggest knockout percentage in heavyweight champion history.

Joshua is a big puncher but no one serious within boxing puts any current heavyweight as having heavier hands than Wilder.

That said, I back Joshua to beat him.....but it's a shoot out and if Wilder connects properly it usually puts anyone to sleep.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 9.33am)

Agree, but Joshua isn’t looking for 1 big punch. He’s heavy handed, but throws more combinations than Wilder. Think Joshua would break both of them down over time, also don’t think he would start as slow as wilder either. But then I was 100% sure that Wilder would spark Fury.

Stirlingsays 03 Dec 18 11.20am
Originally posted by Casual Agree, but Joshua isn’t looking for 1 big punch. He’s heavy handed, but throws more combinations than Wilder. Think Joshua would break both of them down over time, also don’t think he would start as slow as wilder either. But then I was 100% sure that Wilder would spark Fury. Yep.....the heavyweight division in on fire at the moment. Joshua is just better than Wilder in all areas other than a bit less in one. Fury obviously has a great chin.....or to be more accurate great recovery. He definitely deserves praise for a great performance. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Dec 18 11.20am

Originally posted by Casual

Yep.....the heavyweight division in on fire at the moment.

Joshua is just better than Wilder in all areas other than a bit less in one.

Fury obviously has a great chin.....or to be more accurate great recovery.

He definitely deserves praise for a great performance.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Pussay Patrol 03 Dec 18 12.37pm
Donating his entire purse to charity Top top bloke [Link] Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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03 Dec 18 12.37pm

Donating his entire purse to charity

Top top bloke

[Link]

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Lyons550 Shirley 03 Dec 18 3.02pm
For me AJ will want Wilder to unify the belts and then have a bout against Fury...is there a stadium big enough to hold that?? Maybe have it outside in Hyde Park or something so they can get 100k plus in? For me AJ wins either way. i agree that Fury better boxer of the 3 and Wilder has the better one punch power...but we say in the fight on Sat night. If AJ hits Fury; he'll go down...Wilder wobbled with Fury's lack of power so he would as well. AJ will also trouble Wilder with his movement as well as hitting him with a far harder Jab for most of the night..... AJ all day for me against either The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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Shirley 03 Dec 18 3.02pm

For me AJ will want Wilder to unify the belts and then have a bout against Fury...is there a stadium big enough to hold that?? Maybe have it outside in Hyde Park or something so they can get 100k plus in?

For me AJ wins either way. i agree that Fury better boxer of the 3 and Wilder has the better one punch power...but we say in the fight on Sat night. If AJ hits Fury; he'll go down...Wilder wobbled with Fury's lack of power so he would as well.

AJ will also trouble Wilder with his movement as well as hitting him with a far harder Jab for most of the night.....

AJ all day for me against either

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Stirlingsays 03 Dec 18 3.20pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Donating his entire purse to charity Top top bloke [Link] If that is true then I'm very impressed......I think that's a bit too generous perhaps but extremely impressive all the same. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 3.20pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Dec 18 3.20pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Donating his entire purse to charity

Top top bloke

[Link]

If that is true then I'm very impressed......I think that's a bit too generous perhaps but extremely impressive all the same.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 3.20pm)

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Stirlingsays 03 Dec 18 3.26pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 For me AJ will want Wilder to unify the belts and then have a bout against Fury...is there a stadium big enough to hold that?? Maybe have it outside in Hyde Park or something so they can get 100k plus in? For me AJ wins either way. i agree that Fury better boxer of the 3 and Wilder has the better one punch power...but we say in the fight on Sat night. If AJ hits Fury; he'll go down...Wilder wobbled with Fury's lack of power so he would as well. AJ will also trouble Wilder with his movement as well as hitting him with a far harder Jab for most of the night..... AJ all day for me against either It makes sense for Wilder to take the Joshua fight and avoid the Fury one. He could lose both, yet Joshua comes with a minimum of 20 million....more likely 30 million when it's all counted.....That's nearly three times what he got for the Fury purse. ....or avoid both of them and take easier fights......But he's 33 now and he should really be looking for his biggest pay days now and not later. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Dec 18 3.26pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

AJ will also trouble Wilder with his movement as well as hitting him with a far harder Jab for most of the night.....

AJ all day for me against either

It makes sense for Wilder to take the Joshua fight and avoid the Fury one.

He could lose both, yet Joshua comes with a minimum of 20 million....more likely 30 million when it's all counted.....That's nearly three times what he got for the Fury purse.

....or avoid both of them and take easier fights......But he's 33 now and he should really be looking for his biggest pay days now and not later.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Lyons550 Shirley 04 Dec 18 9.15am
Wilder has realised in this one fight how badly he's been promoted up until now...fighting bum after bum. On the other hand maybe it has been genius marketing by his team instead; lining up chicken fodder for him allowing them all to make enough money in the process (allbeit small fry in comparison with AJ) before he's found out against true quality (?) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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Shirley 04 Dec 18 9.15am

Wilder has realised in this one fight how badly he's been promoted up until now...fighting bum after bum.

On the other hand maybe it has been genius marketing by his team instead; lining up chicken fodder for him allowing them all to make enough money in the process (allbeit small fry in comparison with AJ) before he's found out against true quality (?)

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Pussay Patrol 04 Dec 18 10.57am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It makes sense for Wilder to take the Joshua fight and avoid the Fury one. He could lose both, yet Joshua comes with a minimum of 20 million....more likely 30 million when it's all counted.....That's nearly three times what he got for the Fury purse. ....or avoid both of them and take easier fights......But he's 33 now and he should really be looking for his biggest pay days now and not later. But Wilder can't call the shots and call out Joshua, he still has a huge question mark over him, unfinished business with Fury. If I was AJ I would say you need to beat Fury to get a shot, how on earth can he demand a unification bout when he's just been out boxed by Fury? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

04 Dec 18 10.57am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It makes sense for Wilder to take the Joshua fight and avoid the Fury one.

He could lose both, yet Joshua comes with a minimum of 20 million....more likely 30 million when it's all counted.....That's nearly three times what he got for the Fury purse.

....or avoid both of them and take easier fights......But he's 33 now and he should really be looking for his biggest pay days now and not later.

But Wilder can't call the shots and call out Joshua, he still has a huge question mark over him, unfinished business with Fury.

If I was AJ I would say you need to beat Fury to get a shot, how on earth can he demand a unification bout when he's just been out boxed by Fury?

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Stirlingsays 04 Dec 18 11.01am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol But Wilder can't call the shots and call out Joshua, he still has a huge question mark over him, unfinished business with Fury. If I was AJ I would say you need to beat Fury to get a shot, how on earth can he demand a unification bout when he's just been out boxed by Fury? Well, ethically you're right of course.....but boxing...unfortunately......is mainly about money. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

04 Dec 18 11.01am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

But Wilder can't call the shots and call out Joshua, he still has a huge question mark over him, unfinished business with Fury.

If I was AJ I would say you need to beat Fury to get a shot, how on earth can he demand a unification bout when he's just been out boxed by Fury?

Well, ethically you're right of course.....but boxing...unfortunately......is mainly about money.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 04 Dec 18 11.43am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well, ethically you're right of course.....but boxing...unfortunately......is mainly about money. I'm guessing that all three of these guys will fight each other and probably more than once. It has been rare in recent heavyweight boxing to have such big money making opportunities and I'm sure they will milk them dry. The limiting factor for Wilder is that the biggest payday would come in England where he will be at a disadvantage. If anyone didn't know already, no one is going to the States and taking their golden goose unless he is carried out on a stretcher. AJ is totally right not to go there. Unlike Fury, he has no point to prove and can make good money here. Wilder needs to take that risk or he will continue to fight nobodies for a much smaller purse.

Hrolf The Ganger

04 Dec 18 11.43am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, ethically you're right of course.....but boxing...unfortunately......is mainly about money.

I'm guessing that all three of these guys will fight each other and probably more than once.
It has been rare in recent heavyweight boxing to have such big money making opportunities and I'm sure they will milk them dry.
The limiting factor for Wilder is that the biggest payday would come in England where he will be at a disadvantage. If anyone didn't know already, no one is going to the States and taking their golden goose unless he is carried out on a stretcher. AJ is totally right not to go there. Unlike Fury, he has no point to prove and can make good money here. Wilder needs to take that risk or he will continue to fight nobodies for a much smaller purse.

black eagle. south croydon. 04 Dec 18 1.21pm
AJ congratulated Fury on his fight with Wilder,but thinks Wilder only fought him because he thought Fury was washed up. AJ also said he'll fight either Wilder or fury in April. Interestingly AJ is in America right now. Wonder if he is on holiday or in negotiations for the Wilder fight? If that's the case Fury should fight the winner.

black eagle.

south croydon. 04 Dec 18 1.21pm

AJ congratulated Fury on his fight with Wilder,but thinks Wilder only fought him because he thought Fury was washed up.

AJ also said he'll fight either Wilder or fury in April.

Interestingly AJ is in America right now.

Wonder if he is on holiday or in negotiations for the Wilder fight?

If that's the case Fury should fight the winner.

Pussay Patrol 04 Dec 18 2.01pm
Originally posted by black eagle. AJ congratulated Fury on his fight with Wilder,but thinks Wilder only fought him because he thought Fury was washed up. AJ also said he'll fight either Wilder or fury in April. Interestingly AJ is in America right now. Wonder if he is on holiday or in negotiations for the Wilder fight? If that's the case Fury should fight the winner. I think the likelihood is a Wilder Fury rematch and AJ will fight a mandatory challenger in April Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

04 Dec 18 2.01pm

Originally posted by black eagle.

AJ congratulated Fury on his fight with Wilder,but thinks Wilder only fought him because he thought Fury was washed up.

AJ also said he'll fight either Wilder or fury in April.

Interestingly AJ is in America right now.

Wonder if he is on holiday or in negotiations for the Wilder fight?

If that's the case Fury should fight the winner.

I think the likelihood is a Wilder Fury rematch and AJ will fight a mandatory challenger in April

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rikz Croydon 05 Dec 18 10.20am
If I was wilder I would be chasing straight after Joshua now, wilder will knock Joshua clean out. Joshua has improved very little as a pro, next to no movement, no jab at all, a heavier puncher than fury but if wilder can land on fury who's 6'9 and one of the most awkward boxers to hit then I can't see him not landing on Joshua plus Joshua will be even more petrified of his power now. tho he does know his way around the ring but it would have to be such a disciplined performance on Joshuas part I just can't see him not getting caught. I think it works for all three to let wilder and Joshua fight. They've got all the belts between them and need to cash in asap with fury back in the mix. It gives fury another couple of fights to get rid of the ring rust and if wilder annihilates Joshua then I don't think they would call straight for the rematch so furys rematch with wilder could potentially be for all the belts. Exciting times tho and we could end up having an equivalent to the fab four of the 80's in the heavyweight division with all three having a good shout of beating the other 2 and all fighting each other more than once.

rikz

Croydon 05 Dec 18 10.20am

If I was wilder I would be chasing straight after Joshua now, wilder will knock Joshua clean out. Joshua has improved very little as a pro, next to no movement, no jab at all, a heavier puncher than fury but if wilder can land on fury who's 6'9 and one of the most awkward boxers to hit then I can't see him not landing on Joshua plus Joshua will be even more petrified of his power now. tho he does know his way around the ring but it would have to be such a disciplined performance on Joshuas part I just can't see him not getting caught.

I think it works for all three to let wilder and Joshua fight. They've got all the belts between them and need to cash in asap with fury back in the mix. It gives fury another couple of fights to get rid of the ring rust and if wilder annihilates Joshua then I don't think they would call straight for the rematch so furys rematch with wilder could potentially be for all the belts.

Exciting times tho and we could end up having an equivalent to the fab four of the 80's in the heavyweight division with all three having a good shout of beating the other 2 and all fighting each other more than once.

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