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thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 25 Oct 19 9.32am

Speculations already that Camarasa will leave in January. Watched him play in several games last season (Cardiff) - can not understand why he is behind Schlupp in the pecking order. The Spaniard is real class!

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Oct 19 9.43am

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Speculations already that Camarasa will leave in January. Watched him play in several games last season (Cardiff) - can not understand why he is behind Schlupp in the pecking order. The Spaniard is real class!

Last season he played 33 games for Cardiff and did well in a strugglig team.This season he has only featured in 2 games for us,started against Colchester and came on in the 85th minute at Tottenham.He probably regrets joining us and I wouldn't be surprised to see him move to pastures new in January.

My understanding is that we paid a loan fee of £1.5 Mill with an option to buy for £15 Mill.At this juncture I cannot see us exercising that option.

 

pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 25 Oct 19 10.11am

Yet another case of Hodgson bringing in a new player and not playing them!

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 25 Oct 19 10.16am

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

Yet another case of Hodgson bringing in a new player and not playing them!

Or another case of lack of communication between Parish/Freedman and Hodgson

 


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glaziermart Flag 25 Oct 19 10.27am

Or another case of Roy being petulant because Camarasa was not actually a player he identified. I wish people would see through this 'Roy is such a gentleman' facade! Anyone who saw his after match interview with that reporter when he was West Brom manager can agree with this. He will make Camarasa rot until January

 

taylors lovechild Flag 25 Oct 19 11.19am

The big issue might be that the man himself says his best position is playing behind a striker, but the way we are setting up is 9 men in our own half, Ayew on the halfway line and Wilf pottering about where he sees fit.

Last season for Cardiff he actually looked like he puts in a shift, so I would rather see him coming off the bench than Tekkers. If he doesn't get into the team by January then surely he'll leave.

You can't complain about our results this season, but I'm struggling not to complain about how unentertaining it has been to watch at times and I'm still clinging to the distant hope that Camarasa can be a shining light.

Edited by taylors lovechild (25 Oct 2019 11.20am)

 

matthau Flag South Croydon 25 Oct 19 11.42am

Until this changes roys got every right not to play him

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Bekken Flag 25 Oct 19 12.54pm


They need to update our badge

 

Ghostship Flag Norfolk 25 Oct 19 12.59pm

The fact that he has been fined for missing a training session wouldn't have done his cause much good. Sakho also been fined

 

Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 25 Oct 19 1.17pm

Originally posted by glaziermart

Or another case of Roy being petulant because Camarasa was not actually a player he identified. I wish people would see through this 'Roy is such a gentleman' facade! Anyone who saw his after match interview with that reporter when he was West Brom manager can agree with this. He will make Camarasa rot until January

This does tie in with a story a heard a while back. It concerns our lack of getting in a RB in the summer. Apparently, Roy was offered about 5 different right backs during the summer and didn't want any of them. Though, I never heard who he actually wanted.

But, if true, this does illustrate the issues surrounding having a 'director of football'. The manager doesn't get to choose the players, they are just the coach nowadays. Even Pochettino said that recently at Spurs.

 

eagle@ tn34 Flag hastings 25 Oct 19 6.49pm

Originally posted by matthau

Until this changes roys got every right not to play him

Dont understand your point as it will change on sat, we are not going to be in the top ten at the end of the season if we carry on as we are.

COYP

 

Painter Flag Croydon 25 Oct 19 7.13pm

Originally posted by Ghostship

The fact that he has been fined for missing a training session wouldn't have done his cause much good. Sakho also been fined

Warnock didn't particularly like him, but was in a position where he had to play him at Cardiff, due to lack of options. He has said, he was difficult to manage, always has his own physio and medical team with him and they told Warnock when he can train and when he cant.
I don't see this sort of behaviour going down well with Roy, subsequently he gets nowhere the first team.

 

Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 25 Oct 19 8.04pm

Originally posted by Painter

Warnock didn't particularly like him, but was in a position where he had to play him at Cardiff, due to lack of options. He has said, he was difficult to manage, always has his own physio and medical team with him and they told Warnock when he can train and when he cant.
I don't see this sort of behaviour going down well with Roy, subsequently he gets nowhere the first team.

True in Feb, Warnock questioned an injury concerning him. However he did say that he "oozed class" after scoring against the Spammers in a 2-0 win. Also the issues in Feb were widely circulated then, so we knew what type of player we were getting. To be honest our midfield looks defensive at the core with the fringe looking attacking and this guy filling the latter than the former. Somebody clearly sees potential within the club but where that can be fulfilled is anybodies guess, with him glued to his sofa matchday let alone the bench. Maybe him and Meyer are more useful on the training ground than at Selhurst ?

 


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A1969Eagle Flag Redhill 25 Oct 19 8.10pm

Give the man a chance to play Roy...
Give us some creativity in the middle of the Park"!!

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 25 Oct 19 9.43pm

Originally posted by eagle@ tn34

Dont understand your point as it will change on sat, we are not going to be in the top ten at the end of the season if we carry on as we are.

COYP

If you look at the squad and recent spend we've no right to consider top ten.

Roy's got us well organised, confident in possession and not conceding a lot of goals which is generally what the game is about for a club of our stature.

 

EddieMac Flag 25 Oct 19 10.48pm

Real Betis are 3rd from bottom of Spanish league and don’t want him; he can’t get near our squad let alone starting 11. Something doesn’t add up with this fella.

 

Eustace H. Plimsoll Flag Aldershot 25 Oct 19 11.57pm

Originally posted by Bekken


They need to update our badge

You think Roy's not playing him as a badge-sulk?? We all need to do anything we can, I suppose, so fair enough, if so.

 


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ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 26 Oct 19 7.22am

Originally posted by Painter

Warnock didn't particularly like him, but was in a position where he had to play him at Cardiff, due to lack of options. He has said, he was difficult to manage, always has his own physio and medical team with him and they told Warnock when he can train and when he cant.
I don't see this sort of behaviour going down well with Roy, subsequently he gets nowhere the first team.

That's strange, I saw Warnock (on T.V) say that he was the best midfielder he had ever worked with, he also tried to keep him for this season.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Oct 19 11.23am

The fact that we wanted to try before we buy suggests that Palace had some doubts as to his suitability.

His failure to make an impact so far even without much competition by way of another creative midfielder says a lot.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 28 Oct 19 7.21am

Originally posted by NEILLO

The fact that we wanted to try before we buy suggests that Palace had some doubts as to his suitability.

His failure to make an impact so far even without much competition by way of another creative midfielder says a lot.

I am more disappointed that we appear to have wasted yet more money on someone who is not going to be used. We seem to be quite good at that a la Rakip, Jach and to a lesser extent Meyer, McArthy and Sorloth. Roy is clearly a manager who likes his favourites and doesn’t move far down his available list with his selections.

Unless we get some serious injury problems or Camarasa does something seriously impressive in training I doubt we will see him. It’s a rotation battle in midfield for Milivojevic, McArthur, Kouyate, Townsend, Zaha, Schlupp and occasionally Meyer and McArthy

 

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