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taylors lovechild Flag 19 Sep 20 12.17pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Questions for the Roy-out crowd:

*Do you think the players we have are capable of playing more front-foot, possession-based football and getting significantly more points?

*if not, do you blame Roy for that?

*If yes, which players would you select for this bolder approach?

*If we played possession-based, dominant football, how would you deal with the fact our defenders are relatively slow and/or not fabulous in 1 on 1s, and we don't look a team with the legs for a pressing game?

I think there are marginal changes he could make that would make us more attractive to watch and attacking-- specifically integrating Meyer into the starting 11 more, although isn't he anyway in his final year?-- but overall I'm not sure how much Roy can change it up with the players he has.

I think this is probably the best approach. We do not have players suited to possession football, but what we do have is flair players like Zaha, Ayew, Eze and Bats, who are capable of quick interchanges and going at defenders with trickery and pace. Apparently Ferguson is a good passer and is capable of getting forward well, which combined with Andros, Wilf, Ayew, or possibly Benrahama/other could give us a more threatening and balanced attack. If Luka can re-find form he is actually a very capable passer and so is Riedewald and both could be very good at springing counter attacks. Last season Andros was out of form and injured, Wilf was off his game and we had no creativity in midfield. We stayed up through a really strong work ethic and organisation. With Wilf (hopefully) getting back to his best, Eze adding creativity to the midfield and a new option up top in Bats there is plenty of reason to be optimistic. I know a good workman shouldn't blame his tools, but last season many of Roy's tools were broken or blunt.

Rosenior on TSN (here in Malta) did just refer to us as the dullest PL team last weekend though, so let's hope we surprise everyone today.

 
PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Sep 20 12.33pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Roy will still be in charge when he is wheeled on in his bath-chair.

And still keeping Palace in the Premier League.

Roy is a canny old Eagle. And his career has not yet gone to meet Kayla in the great divide.

Longlive King Roy of Selhurst, le Roi de Selhurst.

 

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
Uphill Flag Bedford 19 Sep 20 1.03pm

If he can avoid defeat in the next two matches I suspect this thread will fade away.

But if we play his favoured and same old 'back to the wall' tactics then this will spark again.

If the Southampton performance is a guide (we were lucky) I suspect the latter.

 
spartakev2 Flag Anerley 19 Sep 20 1.42pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Questions for the Roy-out crowd:

*Do you think the players we have are capable of playing more front-foot, possession-based football and getting significantly more points?

*if not, do you blame Roy for that?

*If yes, which players would you select for this bolder approach?

*If we played possession-based, dominant football, how would you deal with the fact our defenders are relatively slow and/or not fabulous in 1 on 1s, and we don't look a team with the legs for a pressing game?

I think there are marginal changes he could make that would make us more attractive to watch and attacking-- specifically integrating Meyer into the starting 11 more, although isn't he anyway in his final year?-- but overall I'm not sure how much Roy can change it up with the players he has.

I dont think anyones asking for a great change in the way we play overall. It's just that it almost seems that roy tells players not to push forward for the first 70 mins. Wether we're playing man city or Norwich...

 
cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Sep 20 1.47pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I think this is probably the best approach. We do not have players suited to possession football, but what we do have is flair players like Zaha, Ayew, Eze and Bats, who are capable of quick interchanges and going at defenders with trickery and pace. Apparently Ferguson is a good passer and is capable of getting forward well, which combined with Andros, Wilf, Ayew, or possibly Benrahama/other could give us a more threatening and balanced attack. If Luka can re-find form he is actually a very capable passer and so is Riedewald and both could be very good at springing counter attacks. Last season Andros was out of form and injured, Wilf was off his game and we had no creativity in midfield. We stayed up through a really strong work ethic and organisation. With Wilf (hopefully) getting back to his best, Eze adding creativity to the midfield and a new option up top in Bats there is plenty of reason to be optimistic. I know a good workman shouldn't blame his tools, but last season many of Roy's tools were broken or blunt.

Rosenior on TSN (here in Malta) did just refer to us as the dullest PL team last weekend though, so let's hope we surprise everyone today.

Well he clearly didnt watch our last 8 games last season.

 
The Beger Flag Croydon 19 Sep 20 7.32pm

"time for hodgson to go"

Well that aged well, LoL!!

 

I am not a bot. No, seriously, I'm not.
midlandspalace Flag kidderminster 19 Sep 20 7.34pm

2 games played, 2 wins, 6 points, 4 goals scored

BUT WE CONCEDED A GOAL.

ROY MUST GO!

 
beak Flag croydon 19 Sep 20 8.03pm

Please put this in Gold Talk, I have a sneaky feeling that Roy will stay a little while longer!

 
Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 19 Sep 20 8.07pm

It's time for Hodgson haters to go.

 
EddieMac Flag 19 Sep 20 8.07pm

Roy out!
Get Rid of Zaha!

All I know is we have some absolute clowns as fans. Enjoy your weekend folks.

 
davehuggins Flag 19 Sep 20 8.10pm

Not just because of today but he is the best manager we have had for a long time. Sometimes it's not pretty but he gets the job done. We look like a very hard side to play against and that'll do for me. Nice one Roy, well done.

 
Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 19 Sep 20 8.21pm

Originally posted by davehuggins

Not just because of today but he is the best manager we have had for a long time. Sometimes it's not pretty but he gets the job done. We look like a very hard side to play against and that'll do for me. Nice one Roy, well done.

Mr Hodgson is the best coach/manager this club has ever had and by a country mile.

 
nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 19 Sep 20 8.46pm

Dear HOL.

I am writing to complain about the current Crystal Palace manager, Mr Roy Hodgson.

Before today's game against the mighty Manchester United at The Theatre Of Dreams, aka Old Trafford, I expected Crystal Palace to be well and truly marmalised. This didn't happen, and the man responsible should be given his marching orders immediately.

In fact, Roy Hodgson had the nerve to manage a team that convincingly beat the mighty Manchester United. This is something that should not be tolerated! To further compound this outrage, his team had the temerity to score three goals. Something his team couldn't manage in the league at all last season.

This is outrageous and unacceptable behaviour from Mr Hodgson.

I insist that he be relieved of his duties with immediate effect.

Yours sincerely,

The OP

 
Swindy Flag Bromley 19 Sep 20 9.04pm

Roy has received a lot of stick, not always justified, but he has had to go with what he has been given. The style of play, often not too attractive and with less goals than we would have wanted (not really his fault that Benteke's forgotten how to score !!),does produce results and I am not sure how many other managers 3 years ago could have come in and turned a start of P7 L7 into comfortable survival.
Arguably, this is the first transfer window that Mr Parish has finally backed him and if, as things are rumoured, there are more arrivals likely, hopefully we can look forward to a season of improvement where we continue to pull off more 'shock wins' against 'the big clubs'.
I imagine, also given some of the players linked and signed, he is also getting to grips with the thorny issue of succession planning post Wilf. Keep going.

 
PatrickA Flag London 19 Sep 20 9.18pm

I was one of Hodgson’s sternest critics last season.
The rigidity in our play, defensive shape even against weaker teams and persistence with 4-5-1 which meant the wide players were closer to our own goal than the opponent’s.
Looks like Hodgson has had a change of heart in the summer and is now playing 4-4-2 which many fans wanted.
We look better balanced all over the field and Zaha is freed from some of his defensive responsibilities.
Let’s hope for more of the same.

 
michaelpearce Flag grays 19 Sep 20 9.22pm

I think Roy should go if the right manager comes along but as i said in earlier post new players and some good youngsters I am willing to wait, he is not a young man our Roy but thank you 2 attacking subs never been know

 
silvertop Flag Portishead 19 Sep 20 9.24pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Mr Hodgson is the best coach/manager this club has ever had and by a country mile.

Trevor Francis?

 
Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 19 Sep 20 9.27pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was one of Hodgson’s sternest critics last season.
The rigidity in our play, defensive shape even against weaker teams and persistence with 4-5-1 which meant the wide players were closer to our own goal than the opponent’s.
Looks like Hodgson has had a change of heart in the summer and is now playing 4-4-2 which many fans wanted.
We look better balanced all over the field and Zaha is freed from some of his defensive responsibilities.
Let’s hope for more of the same.

Yes but you’d elected to ignore the football we’d played when Roy had attacking options previously and how small the squad was.
And those who disagreed were referred to as Roy’s “supporters” and “apologists”

 
PatrickA Flag London 19 Sep 20 9.44pm

The only different player Hodgson used in the starting line up from last season was Mitchell .
He could have used this system last season.

 
Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 19 Sep 20 10.28pm

Not true. Schlupp was injured for most of the post lockdown games and made a difference when he came in at the end of the season after the Palace COVID bitch fest.

 
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