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Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 07 Sep 21 10.44am

Another 1000 immigrants made it across yesterday. Fine weather today will no doubt encourage more to risk it. Each time a new record.

The French police seem an impotent force. Are these gangs and crowds of immigrants so difficult to spot along the French coast?

What good are these people (mostly men as PalazioVecchio once said) to us and what actually happens to them? Some get deported, but the numbers are rarely published. I really fear that there are Taliban plotters amongst them primed to wreak havoc here.

I thought we were going to get tough on immigration post Brexit. Not happened yet.

 


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Orange1290 Flag 07 Sep 21 11.37am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Another 1000 immigrants made it across yesterday. Fine weather today will no doubt encourage more to risk it. Each time a new record.

The French police seem an impotent force. Are these gangs and crowds of immigrants so difficult to spot along the French coast?

What good are these people (mostly men as PalazioVecchio once said) to us and what actually happens to them? Some get deported, but the numbers are rarely published. I really fear that there are Taliban plotters amongst them primed to wreak havoc here.

I thought we were going to get tough on immigration post Brexit. Not happened yet.


Non-EU immigration into the UK has boomed exponentially since the brexit 'deal' with the UK was signed 20 months ago. Those making their way know that they won't/can't be sent back to France as now the UK isn't part of the EU and any laws that used to facilitate that as an EU member don't apply as a 3rd country, hence the exponential increase since January 2020. The Channel has effectively become a one way non-return valve.


Edited by Orange1290 (07 Sep 2021 11.38am)

 


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mars Flag Folkestone 07 Sep 21 12.04pm

The question should be why WONT the French

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Sep 21 12.05pm

Originally posted by Orange1290


Non-EU immigration into the UK has boomed exponentially since the brexit 'deal' with the UK was signed 20 months ago. Those making their way know that they won't/can't be sent back to France as now the UK isn't part of the EU and any laws that used to facilitate that as an EU member don't apply as a 3rd country, hence the exponential increase since January 2020. The Channel has effectively become a one way non-return valve.


Edited by Orange1290 (07 Sep 2021 11.38am)

So how many got sent back to France before the deal?

The obvious answer is to send these people back to their point of origin.
Until we truly grasp the unending nature of modern migration, we will continue with this self destructive and unsustainable policy of allowing them to settle here.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Sep 21 2.03pm

I'm sure the French are making every effort to keep these guys in France. I'm sure they're as needed and welcome there as they are in the UK. Who is France's second largest political party again? Oh.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Sep 21 3.01pm

the general drift of all these disconnected men is North-West....from Syria, Africa, Afghanistan.

so, the UK should just copy the French. Create a Calais Jungle-camp at Fishguard/Holyhead/Stranraer and ship the men all across to Ireland.

Irish Governments will be delighted to shovel money at the problem. Again.

All the middle-aged feminists in Sinn Féin think its a wonderful development. Boatloads of single young men with a good body-mass index.

anyway, these refugee-men are more likely to speak English than French. France is already full of men.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 Sep 2021 3.04pm)

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Sep 21 3.04pm

Originally posted by mars

The question should be why WONT the French

This is true! And the answer is, it"s great business to "miss" the hundreds/thousand slipping through the net, and make no mistake, we would do exactly the same if we were in their position. Hold on to thousands of poor people who need accomodation and food -at least until they can get a job if they want to, or let them slip off in to the night towards one of your least popular neighbours? If any country was rewarded with mega $$$$$$$$$ for keeping asylum seekers, they wouldn"t let any escape- but until that day comes, it"s "bon voyage" asylum seeker , have a good life in gb, and tres bien for the beret wearers!

 

Far away fan Flag On the border of jungle 07 Sep 21 3.39pm

These people are one off the reason taxes will rise, as they will live on income supplied by the government.

 

Apollofuzz Flag On the edge of reason 07 Sep 21 3.46pm

Does anyone know where I can buy shares in rubber Dinghies and life jackets, it seems to be a booming business. We could set up a big fans at Dover to blow them back and to stop them landing.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Sep 21 3.51pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the general drift of all these disconnected men is North-West....from Syria, Africa, Afghanistan.

so, the UK should just copy the French. Create a Calais Jungle-camp at Fishguard/Holyhead/Stranraer and ship the men all across to Ireland.

Irish Governments will be delighted to shovel money at the problem. Again.

All the middle-aged feminists in Sinn Féin think its a wonderful development. Boatloads of single young men with a good body-mass index.

anyway, these refugee-men are more likely to speak English than French. France is already full of men.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 Sep 2021 3.04pm)

You think Sinn Fein are pro immigration? I presume you have spoken to their usual voters. There may be woke nationalism touted at senior level - but not at grass roots, where it is still in the 'troubles'.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Sep 21 5.05pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

You think Sinn Fein are pro immigration? I presume you have spoken to their usual voters. There may be woke nationalism touted at senior level - but not at grass roots, where it is still in the 'troubles'.

here is Sinn Fein's solution to the Ulster Troubles....

A bit of solidarity with their Catholic/Atheist French comrades. Refugees Welcome here , LGBT , Abortion a go go.

SF learned the policy from Blair/Brown....import a ton of voters to win the next election.

[Link]

Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 Sep 2021 5.10pm)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Sep 21 5.15pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

here is Sinn Fein's solution to the Ulster Troubles....

[Link]

They always supported Palestine too. It's kind of a perpetual down trodden protest thing. However, if Derry had a massive influx of immigrants, particularly any of people of BAME backgrounds, there would not be long before troubles. Particularly if there was any (unauthorised) dealing or gangs involved. Although I'm sure the legitimate business people would just have to pay the average friendship rate to keep trouble away.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Sep 21 6.14pm

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

Does anyone know where I can buy shares in rubber Dinghies and life jackets, it seems to be a booming business. We could set up a big fans at Dover to blow them back and to stop them landing.

Apparently, Priti is thinking of setting up a wind farm in the Dover strait for exactly that reason!

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Sep 21 6.17pm

Originally posted by Far away fan

These people are one off the reason taxes will rise, as they will live on income supplied by the government.

Perhaps get boris and his cabinet to pay back the £14 billion PPE money that "disappeared" to the Cotswolds and off shore, bring a New Scotland Yard proceeds of crime team along for a chat, it wouldn"t be tory tax rises we got, it would be tax cuts!

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 07 Sep 21 6.26pm

Originally posted by Orange1290


Non-EU immigration into the UK has boomed exponentially since the brexit 'deal' with the UK was signed 20 months ago. Those making their way know that they won't/can't be sent back to France as now the UK isn't part of the EU and any laws that used to facilitate that as an EU member don't apply as a 3rd country, hence the exponential increase since January 2020. The Channel has effectively become a one way non-return valve.


Edited by Orange1290 (07 Sep 2021 11.38am)

So the millions of pounds we are still giving the French to stop this, is going where?
Why are the French not sending them back to the previous EU countries they have travelled from?
West Africans, North Afiricans, East Africans, Bangladeshi, Albanians etc must all have travelled through at least 2 EU Countries. These nationalities are a fact, as my wife travels to the coast 2-3 times a week to process them This is not a Brexit problem ( I know you want it to be), this has been going on for years, don’t believe that 3rd country removals have always been easy…fact, I dealt with this on numerous occasions.

Edited by Spiderman (07 Sep 2021 6.30pm)

Edited by Spiderman (07 Sep 2021 6.35pm)

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 07 Sep 21 6.27pm

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

Does anyone know where I can buy shares in rubber Dinghies and life jackets, it seems to be a booming business. We could set up a big fans at Dover to blow them back and to stop them landing.

Try Calais, the sale of these should be the first thing stopped, unless, of course, the French have no intention of stopping it

 

Cabaye7 Flag Arundel 07 Sep 21 7.51pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Another 1000 immigrants made it across yesterday. Fine weather today will no doubt encourage more to risk it. Each time a new record.

The French police seem an impotent force. Are these gangs and crowds of immigrants so difficult to spot along the French coast?

What good are these people (mostly men as PalazioVecchio once said) to us and what actually happens to them? Some get deported, but the numbers are rarely published. I really fear that there are Taliban plotters amongst them primed to wreak havoc here.

I thought we were going to get tough on immigration post Brexit. Not happened yet.

Yes, all mainly males that only serve to drain our system, they add no value what so ever.

What happens to them? Welcomed with open arms it would appear by our government, along with being ushered onto air conditioned coaches and put into hotels.
Little wonder they choose to come here, we make it so comfortable for them.

If you are fleeing for your life why bypass all those countries that they cross?

Priti Patel has done nothing to halt this and it makes my blood boil to see how easy it is for them to just jump in a dingy and arrive here.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Sep 21 8.48pm


tell the refugees their first six months in the UK will be a compulsory stay at Thornton Heath.

that should put manners on them.

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 07 Sep 21 8.58pm

Why should the French stop them, Its the UKs fault they have made the UK, the land of milk and honey, they are not trying to get to the UK, for the Weather its for the handouts, in Spain where i live you get nothing back when you've put nothing in, they either get sent back to Morocco or Senegal if they have papers, if not the get sent to Madrid and make there way up through France to get to the UK, if you are a genuine refugee you have to stop and claim asylum in the first country you arrive in, which isn't the UK

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Sep 21 9.26pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Why should the French stop them, Its the UKs fault they have made the UK, the land of milk and honey, they are not trying to get to the UK, for the Weather its for the handouts, in Spain where i live you get nothing back when you've put nothing in, they either get sent back to Morocco or Senegal if they have papers, if not the get sent to Madrid and make there way up through France to get to the UK, if you are a genuine refugee you have to stop and claim asylum in the first country you arrive in, which isn't the UK

i like the Spanish welfare system. Scroungers not welcome.

you pay for scroungers and you get a country full of little else. visit Ireland or Sweden if you do not believe me.

 


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