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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 17 9.25pm

Surely the FT is an organ of the wicked capitalists?

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 17 9.37pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

1) Lionel barber on BBC's This Week: "We’re an international newspaper, we don’t carry water… You know what we do we don’t carry flags around when we’re reporting for the FT. What we do is report the facts. We don’t just report what the Commission does."

2) The Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism stated the papers with the most pro-remain articles were, the Guardian, the Financial Times, the Daily Mirror.

Taking your post:-

1) 'We report the facts', that is not 'pretending to be neutral, that is what they are supposed to do.

2). In reporting the facts as the FT editor says he does, that is not 'pro-remain' it is how it reads.

So one morning you open the FT and its for or against brexit so what.

 

elgrande Flag bedford 01 Nov 17 9.41pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Breaking news...

Great so giving the EU the upper hand...nice one.

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 01 Nov 17 9.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Taking your post:-

1) 'We report the facts', that is not 'pretending to be neutral, that is what they are supposed to do.

2). In reporting the facts as the FT editor says he does, that is not 'pro-remain' it is how it reads.

So one morning you open the FT and its for or against brexit so what.


Read my post. How many times do I have to explain this? He says they purely report the facts and they are not biased in response to Michael Portillo's claim that they are on This Week. At least the Mirror and Guardian say they are 'remainers'.

Yet the evidence states the FT was one of the 'remain' papers.

Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Nov 2017 9.42pm)

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 01 Nov 17 9.48pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Read my post. How many times do I have to explain this? He says they purely report the facts and they are not biased in response to Michael Portillo's claim that they are on This Week. At least the Mirror and Guardian say they are 'remainers'.

Yet the evidence states the FT was one of the 'remain' papers.

Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Nov 2017 9.42pm)

It does, clearly [Link]

Though what that has to do with them reporting up to date news I don't know. If Brexit is a roaring success they will be reporting the financial upswings of that too.

The reason there is so much negative news is because, so far, most of the fallout has been exactly that; negative.

 


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.TUX. Flag 01 Nov 17 9.54pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

It does, clearly [Link]

Though what that has to do with them reporting up to date news I don't know. If Brexit is a roaring success they will be reporting the financial upswings of that too.

The reason there is so much negative news is because, so far, most of the fallout has been exactly that; negative.

.............the vast majority of the media are aligned to Remain.

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 01 Nov 17 10.07pm

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 17 10.13pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Read my post. How many times do I have to explain this? He says they purely report the facts and they are not biased in response to Michael Portillo's claim that they are on This Week. At least the Mirror and Guardian say they are 'remainers'.

Yet the evidence states the FT was one of the 'remain' papers.

Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Nov 2017 9.42pm)

Your post has no actual evidence.

Your welcome to your opinion but if the FT say they are reporting the facts that does not make them 'pro-remain'.

To suggest that they are 'pro-remain' means they are biased in their reporting and that's not fair.

If the opinion column is in favour of remain that's different.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Nov 17 10.25pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Great so giving the EU the upper hand...nice one.

Mr Rees Mogg was very pleased.

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 01 Nov 17 10.32pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Your post has no actual evidence.

Your welcome to your opinion but if the FT say they are reporting the facts that does not make them 'pro-remain'.

To suggest that they are 'pro-remain' means they are biased in their reporting and that's not fair.

If the opinion column is in favour of remain that's different.


Can someone else help me here?

 

elgrande Flag bedford 01 Nov 17 10.39pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Can someone else help me here?

Its a lost cause Penge,pissing against the wind springs to mind.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 02 Nov 17 5.12am

Hashtag despite Brexit

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Nov 17 10.24am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Hashtag despite Brexit

Are we exporting to non eu countries using eu agreed tariffs? What happens when we are out of the EU.


In other news, due to a lack of seasonal farmworkers, food is rotting in fields. Well done everyone.

[Link]

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Nov 17 10.45am

Don't be poorly or injured this winter

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 02 Nov 17 10.49am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Are we exporting to non eu countries using eu agreed tariffs? What happens when we are out of the EU.


In other news, due to a lack of seasonal farmworkers, food is rotting in fields. Well done everyone.

[Link]

Oh no! We are all going to starve.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 02 Nov 17 10.49am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Don't be poorly or injured this winter

Oh no! We are all going to die from lack of nursing.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 02 Nov 17 11.14am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Oh no! We are all going to die from lack of nursing.


People will die. If winter is bad, given the kicking the Tories have given the NHS over the past 7 years, expect significant numbers of avoidable deaths.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 02 Nov 17 11.17am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Oh no! We are all going to starve.

Given the failure of the government's economic strategy and flasgship benefits programme some people may well starve, or at least become seriously unwell from malnutrition, not to mention the lasting effects lack of good food will have on swathes of children up and down the country.

Don't forget that Grayling was saying we could just grow all the food we currently import to avoid tariffs post Brexit. Not sure how he thinks that will happen without more immigration. Unless he thinks the 75,000 bankers that will lose their jobs will go and plough the fields and scatter the good seed on the land.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Nov 17 11.22am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Given the failure of the government's economic strategy and flasgship benefits programme some people may well starve, or at least become seriously unwell from malnutrition, not to mention the lasting effects lack of good food will have on swathes of children up and down the country.

Don't forget that Grayling was saying we could just grow all the food we currently import to avoid tariffs post Brexit. Not sure how he thinks that will happen without more immigration. Unless he thinks the 75,000 bankers that will lose their jobs will go and plough the fields and scatter the good seed on the land.

The story is covered by james O'brien on lbc this morning.
The leader of the NFU saying we haven't got enough people to harvest crops.
That's quite a big deal. But it isn't in the papers because they can't blame Muslims or the EU for it.
It also highlights a negative consequence for what they implored their readership to vote for in the referendum.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 02 Nov 17 11.37am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Given the failure of the government's economic strategy and flasgship benefits programme some people may well starve, or at least become seriously unwell from malnutrition, not to mention the lasting effects lack of good food will have on swathes of children up and down the country.

Don't forget that Grayling was saying we could just grow all the food we currently import to avoid tariffs post Brexit. Not sure how he thinks that will happen without more immigration. Unless he thinks the 75,000 bankers that will lose their jobs will go and plough the fields and scatter the good seed on the land.

No the disabled and poor will be marched to 'The Grayling Fields' not the bankers.

 

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