If you think that indictments aren't coming down the line for family, the likes of Kushner or Trump jr then you had better reach for the popcorn. He's working his way up the chain because that's how serious investigations work.

Of course once that happens, we'll just get 'it's a witch hunt' style talk instead. But 'common sense' tells us that it will happen, and in all likelihood we won't have to wait that long for it.

Of course it's a witch hunt.....talking to the Russians! Wow....The amount of s***e that politicians get up to...and you take this seriously.

Trump is going nowhere from this.....and that's called common sense.

The good thing is that time will show which of us had better judgement on this matter.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Getting - or attempting to get - something of value (opposition research) from a foreign power is against the law. Don Jr. has already admitted to doing this by his own voluntary disclosures, dragging Kushner and Manafort along with him.

Crimes have been committed; charges brought and convictions handed down. All of this adds up to this being the very opposite of a witch hunt.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

It's precisely what a witch hunt is. Nothing that has been done there is of any significance at all....it's a joke in a world where Clinton had that email server and was then cleared....an absolute joke and a witch hunt.

A load of money throw at one aim....taking Trump out....a act against democracy that would lead to serious repercussions. You're just an unknown cheerleader for that aim.

You stated on here that Trump will go. I've said he won't. I'm going to enjoy watching your hubris laid bare.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

We Americans are kind of funny about foreign powers trying to influence our elections, especially when they hack into our files. I would remind all and sundry that the Watergate investigations lasted over two years. This has been going on for less than one.

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Clinton Email server issue ? your kidding me right ? What about Governor scott, who when petitioned via the correct channels to release his emails of the previous 3 1/2 years, the backups had magically disappeared ?
Then there have been multiple senators found to be using private email servers also, yet we still concentrate on Clinton, despite all those emails being able to be viewed by the FBI, who found only that she was pretty dumb to use a private server, and nothing else.

Bannon, reportedly, has said it right, treason has been committed, and the real sh!t is close to hitting the fan. Get ready for a war with North Korea, because thats what presidents do when things go south for them.

And just how democratic an election was it ? when so much fake news was thrown out there in the weeks leading upto the election, including the FBI flub that probably cost Clinton the presidency.

Well, I'm going to be ridiculing your hubris, so that's just as well.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Trump attorney sends Bannon cease and desist letter over 'disparaging' comments - [Link]

One for the newly minted freedom of speech fans lol. Of course what's amusing is that bringing Wollf in and have him conduct 100+ interviews with people appears to have had the presidents approval at the time. How remarkably stupid to do such a thing if you want potentially very dodgy behaviour to go unquestioned. Bannon doesn't need to say another word. It's deckstairs on the titanic time so he can hardly be blamed for telling it like it is.

He appears to be employing people to simply tell him what he wants to hear, which is all well and good, but not with your own legal team where you might get brought down by your own behaviour due to the level of scrutiny involved in this role. And accusing someone of communicating disparaging information which at the same time saying they've 'lost their mind' isn't always a good move. If he takes legal action there will be of course be the discovery phase of evidence collection on both sides. This man doesn't need others to bring him down, it's always amateur hour with Trump.

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Clinton was a president and hence it's an accurate comparison on the behaviour of activists against them.

It isn't whataboutery as it's answering a 'whataboutery' point by making an actual comparison involving presidents.

Comey made a judgement on the Clinton emails that made no sense to me. Comey came across quite well in my view but that's just a view.

I don't comment that much on what Trump does unless it's actually under discussion. I spend most of my time criticising the hopelessly biased commentators against him.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Oddly I think they're kind of protecting him. All the talk about collusion and dumb things he says, and has pretty much protected him from what is likely to be a serious scandal involving money laundering for the Russians, that may have been going on for a decade.

The issue isn't really going to be what you like or don't like about the guy, but what the FBI can pin in terms of criminal charges - and thats looking very much like money laundering, tax and declaration offences relating to foriegn investments, and lying to the FBI / Under oath etc.

Its gone too far for the FBI not to press charges on something against very senior members of the administration - and I'd be astounded if there isn't anything to find in terms of financial misdeeds and illegal business practices.

My bet is that it'll be more about financial activity before even entering the primaries - and that the 'election stuff' turns out to be more something the Russians did in return for the laundering, rather than something more nefarious like 'treason'.

I suspect that he'll be hung out to dry, by others who had a more direct hand in the cookie jar. He's a 71 year old man, who even if the arrests were all done and dusted by tomorrow, could likely spend the next five years before a trial proper - with a number of options available to even avoid standing trial on grounds of ill health etc.

I'll be surprised, even if found guilty, that he'll spend any time in prison. He's the perfect 'fall guy', old, dumb and possibly 'mentally incompetent'.

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