Originally posted by grumpymort

I never said people shouldn't have vaccine.

These people that are dying are already sick and vitamin d is very important yet they are very quiet on this.

This field is my wifes specialty and her country has had very little deaths.

Edited by grumpymort (14 Feb 2021 2.23am)

Originally posted by BlueJay

Good point. It's a difficult subject to broach because clearly we don't want people getting scared to get the vaccine when there's already a fair amount of nonsense ideas about it already. With the pfizer vaccine it was routine for people to have to sit down for 15 minutes following being vaccinated in case of allergic reaction. It did occur to be that hundreds of people doing this a day is at least 'some' level of risk of you get unlucky, so who knows if this was a good tradeoff. I'm sure these places are well ventilated, but it's certainly a good idea to wear a n95 mask in such a situation in my view!

Just to reiterate though, logically the above risk is still next to nothing compared to the massive benefit of 15 million people already being vaccinated.

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What’s your opinion on non-vulnerable people having the jab or being coerced into having it by not being able to do certain things, or more things

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The vulnerable are being vaccinated to give them high protection. The issues after that will be tiny and you know it, apart from the usual hysterical types and sanctimonious types selfish in other ways while their lives haven’t been affected and are probably several thousand pounds better off.

Where’s the government findings on effects on fertility with these vaccines? If they did, or could provide this, there would be more uptake in younger age groups at very low risk.

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think that it is reasonable to have the jab, especially since you might not be able to travel without doing so. One just has to hope that it does actually have the intended efficacy that protects the vulnerable. Only time will tell that.
I don't think people will stand for much more time under lockdown so this is a crucial period.

Quote An Israeli study that found a robust immune response from recovered COVID-19 patients who were vaccinated provides “some of the first real-life evidence” that immunity lasts even if antibody levels appear to drop, a leading researcher said Thursday.

researchers at Ziv Medical Center in the Galilee city of Safed found that a small sample of recovered patients who were given a first dose of a coronavirus vaccine had the full-scale immune response that most people only have upon receiving a second dose.

Their bodies produced so many new antibodies after the first shot that within 21 days — until just before the second shot is administered — their average antibody levels stood at 10 times those of other vaccinees.

The new study indicates that the current assumption that recovered patients have around 82% immunity is valid for at least 10 months, and regardless of antibody levels, Edelstein said. Reinfection, while receiving much media attention, is a rare phenomenon, he added.