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corkery Flag Cork City 04 Dec 17 6.59pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Regardless of your opinions on immigration etc. I can't be the only one who feels a small sense of sadness at the prospect of a border between Ireland and the UK. Even if it only ends up being between the Republic and the rest.

Call me a remoaning snowflake but I love that country.

Edited by Mstrobez (04 Dec 2017 6.19pm)

Neither the UK or Irish or Stormount control South Armagh so it would be impossible to have a border.

 


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Mstrobez Flag 04 Dec 17 7.43pm

Originally posted by corkery

Neither the UK or Irish or Stormount control South Armagh so it would be impossible to have a border.

Well if that's the case, without a hard border in Ireland I have no idea what the arrangement can be that doesn't undermine the Brexit means Brexit brigade

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Dec 17 8.17pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Agreed. It certainly looks bad for you when Blair is calling you a liar with a straight face.

I couldn't give a s*** what Blair says.
He is working for his 'Illuminati' paymasters.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Dec 2017 8.17pm)

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Dec 17 8.24pm

Can anyone remember the Irish border situation being discussed or being given a clue that this might happen in the run up to the referendum?

 

leifandersonshair Flag Newport 04 Dec 17 8.33pm

Crazy situation. So, Northern Ireland offered special terms on Brexit which the DUP oppose (which if May didn't need their votes wouldn't be an issue). Now Scotland will presumably want special terms but won't get them- because she doesn't need the SNP votes.

Real Catch 22 at this point- rather worrying. If the PM hadn't stupidly lost her majority this wouldn't be an issue!

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Dec 17 8.55pm

Maybe people should have thought of this before casting their vote in the referendum.

Edit. They did, well in Northern Ireland anyway.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Dec 2017 8.56pm)

 

legaleagle Flag 04 Dec 17 9.10pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Can anyone remember the Irish border situation being discussed or being given a clue that this might happen in the run up to the referendum?

February 2016: "Boris Johnson has said he does not believe the Irish border would be affected if the UK left the European Union.
The mayor of London was in Northern Ireland on Monday just 48 hours after Prime Minister David Cameron's visit.

...However, ahead of June's EU referendum he has discussed why he thinks the UK would be better off outside the European Union.
He told the BBC a Brexit would leave arrangements on the Irish border "absolutely unchanged".


 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Dec 17 9.37pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

February 2016: "Boris Johnson has said he does not believe the Irish border would be affected if the UK left the European Union.
The mayor of London was in Northern Ireland on Monday just 48 hours after Prime Minister David Cameron's visit.

...However, ahead of June's EU referendum he has discussed why he thinks the UK would be better off outside the European Union.
He told the BBC a Brexit would leave arrangements on the Irish border "absolutely unchanged".


Well we all know you can't trust Boris and people would have taken that with a pinch of salt anyway before casting their vote.


Talking of fishing rights...
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Juxtapose with this...


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turkish eagle Flag 05 Dec 17 6.32pm

We are lions led by donkeys. The EU negotiations run into a road block.


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Dec 17 6.37pm

Originally posted by turkish eagle

We are lions led by donkeys. The EU negotiations run into a road block.


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Well put.

 

pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 05 Dec 17 7.29pm

Originally posted by turkish eagle

We are lions led by donkeys. The EU negotiations run into a road block.


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Pretty good summary of where we are.

 


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simlaboy Flag coulsdon 05 Dec 17 10.57pm

Wake me up when we’ve gone,gone

 

Stirlingsays Flag 05 Dec 17 11.07pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Maybe people should have thought of this before casting their vote in the referendum.

Edit. They did, well in Northern Ireland anyway.

Edited by nickgusset (04 Dec 2017 8.56pm)

I have family in NI, they are proud to be British. They aren't fond of the EU at all. And one thing they know for certain is that many remainers prefer the Irish and the EU to them.

Not me....I'm a unionist.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 05 Dec 17 11.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I have family in NI, they are proud to be British. They aren't fond of the EU at all. And one thing they know for certain is that many remainers prefer the Irish and the EU to them.

Not me....I'm a unionist.

Good to hear you banging the drum for progressive minority rights.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 06 Dec 17 1.07am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Good to hear you banging the drum for progressive minority rights.

Unionism isn't a 'progressive' minority. The Northern Irish unionists are as British as you are.

People who supposedly support self determination, should support them. We found out just how far the EU's supporters actually care about that with the events in Spain....It is fine...as long as the wind blows in their direction for a lot of them.

I support self determination whether it suits me or not....whether it is in Spain or Northern Ireland.


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 1.11am)

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 06 Dec 17 9.21am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Unionism isn't a 'progressive' minority. The Northern Irish unionists are as British as you are.

People who supposedly support self determination, should support them. We found out just how far the EU's supporters actually care about that with the events in Spain....It is fine...as long as the wind blows in their direction for a lot of them.

I support self determination whether it suits me or not....whether it is in Spain or Northern Ireland.


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 1.11am)

Well they had better snap out of that delusion and wake up to their true ethnicity sooner rather than later as Ireland won't be partitioned for ever. I reckon re-unification will happen before 2050.

They are obviously Irish but with the right to call themselves British should they so wish. 63% of Northern Irish don't including some Protestants/Unionists. They prefer Ulstermen which is rational.

 


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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 06 Dec 17 9.40am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Unionism isn't a 'progressive' minority. The Northern Irish unionists are as British as you are.

People who supposedly support self determination, should support them. We found out just how far the EU's supporters actually care about that with the events in Spain....It is fine...as long as the wind blows in their direction for a lot of them.

I support self determination whether it suits me or not....whether it is in Spain or Northern Ireland.


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 1.11am)


It's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, it's part of Ireland. It' just in the UK. So people from Northern Ireland are Irish not British. Hence their automatic ability to claim Irish citizenship and get an Irish passport. Plenty of people born and raised in NI have an Irish passport and don't have a UK passport. Plenty of Irish people live one in NI and work in RoI or vice versa.

If you care about self-determination do you support a border poll? The stick that the Tories should be using to keep the DUP in line but are too weak and too scared to use.

Edited by CambridgeEagle (06 Dec 2017 9.44am)

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 06 Dec 17 9.45am

David Davis just admitted to the Brexit select committee that the impact assessments he said had been done "in excruciating detail" have in fact not been done. A liar and an incompetent fool who hasn't done his prep.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Dec 17 9.52am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

David Davis just admitted to the Brexit select committee that the impact assessments he said had been done "in excruciating detail" have in fact not been done. A liar and an incompetent fool who hasn't done his prep.

Strong and stable.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 06 Dec 17 10.04am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Strong and stable.


In any other walk of life he'd have been sacked by now. An incredibly important job and he's not fit for purpose. He's also a complete hypocrite.

 

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