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Originally posted by nickgusset
What s the way forward then Stirling. Do you have faith in the projects whilst Davis May Green and Hammond are anywhere near it? It's all out of our control. I'm no fan of May...She would have been a good shag thirty years ago and that's about as good as I can say about the blue rinser.....Davis I like....Good brain and he has integrity, he was the leader they should have chosen instead of that t*** Cameron but his time is past. Brexit is in the hands of the remainers.....what can I say...it is what it is.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What part of 'yeah I do' don't you understand? Ah I apologise, I misread. Fair enough.
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Happens.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's all out of our control. I'm no fan of May...She would have been a good shag thirty years ago and that's about as good as I can say about the blue rinser.....Davis I like....Good brain and he has integrity, he was the leader they should have chosen instead of that t*** Cameron but his time is past. Brexit is in the hands of the remainers.....what can I say...it is what it is.
"Referendums should be held when people know exactly what they are getting … we should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards.” He also said an simple in/out referendum would be a massive error. He also said democracies that can't change their mind are no longer democracies, but has ruled out any change of heart on Brexit. He also resigned as an MP over abuses of ministerial power and holding parliament in contempt and is today's biggest perpetrator of those crimes from the front benches. He spent a year lying about Brexit impact assessments.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
I just think they are more Irish than they are British despite being in the UK. Where we might have some agreement is on the rights and wrongs on how they came to be there. But much like the Jews in Palestine......once the state had been created the alternative was a bloodbath. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 5.28pm)
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
"Referendums should be held when people know exactly what they are getting … we should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards.” He also said an simple in/out referendum would be a massive error. He also said democracies that can't change their mind are no longer democracies, but has ruled out any change of heart on Brexit. He also resigned as an MP over abuses of ministerial power and holding parliament in contempt and is today's biggest perpetrator of those crimes from the front benches. He spent a year lying about Brexit impact assessments.
He won't be asking you to write his CV that's for certain. I didn't say I agreed with him on everything but I do think the man has integrity.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He won't be asking you to write his CV that's for certain. I didn't say I agreed with him on everything but I do think the man has integrity. He voted against the Iraq war at least. Sadly we live in a time where that is a facet that qualifies an MP as half decent. He's utterly useless though. The EU will run rings round him throughout.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He won't be asking you to write his CV that's for certain. I didn't say I agreed with him on everything but I do think the man has integrity. Even though somewhere along he has lied. It is all unravelling.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Don't tell other people their 'ethnicity'. Who the hell do you think you are? If I put you in a room with them and let you tell them that I wouldn't have much hope for your safety. Cheek. You just proved precisely what I said about many lefty remainers. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 3.54pm) er..you probably don't know then that nearly all the north of Ireland called themselves Irish 100 years ago, including Protestants and Unionists, because they were, you know, Irish. As things got more politicised and out of hand through the generations more of them decided to call themselves British. Nothing to do with ethnicity that. It was pragmatic.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
er..you probably don't know then that nearly all the north of Ireland called themselves Irish 100 years ago, including Protestants and Unionists, because they were, you know, Irish. As things got more politicised and out of hand through the generations more of them decided to call themselves British. Nothing to do with ethnicity that. It was pragmatic. Where are you getting this from? Link me to the stats.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Integrity Davis????? Where have you been the last few weeks. Why did he do it - why not just say at the very start that he did not have any impact reports. He lied so much and so long - risking contempt of parliament and worse getting others to cover for him. What reputation he had is gone. [Tweet Link]
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Where are you getting this from? Link me to the stats. Historical census records [Link]
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Historical census records [Link] What Google? You make the claim, you back it up.
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Starter? There's a clue in their name re:ethnicity
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Hors D'ouevre anyone? "A number of large-scale national surveys of social identity have been conducted in Northern Ireland. Four such studies, conducted between 1968 and 1994, were reviewed by Trew (1996a). Respondents were asked to select from a list of identities (British, Irish, Ulster and Northern Irish) one term which ‘best describes the way you usually think of yourself’. Results showed a consistent pattern of identification for both Catholics and Protestants. The vast majority of Catholics identified themselves as Irish or Northern Irish – only between 10 and 15 per cent chose British as their primary national identification. The proportion of Protestants identifying themselves as Irish has radically declined over the period of the surveys, from 20 per cent in the 1968 survey (Rose, 1971) to only 2 or 3 per cent in the 1990s (Moxon-Browne, 1991; Trew, 1996b), suggesting that identities became more polarised following the onset of political violence in the early 1970s." Edited by Kermit8 (06 Dec 2017 6.53pm) You said most identified as Irish! In 68 for the unionists we are talking about it was at twenty percent! What a numpty! You don't know what you are talking about as usual.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You said most identified as Irish! In 68 for the unionists we are talking about it was at twenty percent! What a numpty! You don't know what you are talking about as usual. So if it were 20% who said they were Irish from the Unionist/Protestant community in 1968, which is a lot more than today, have a stab at how many more thought they were Irish (because they are) 50 or 75 years earlier. S'alright. They are still British in the here and now. The law says they can be. Don't get so uppity. Just reporting historical data to back up my 'numpty' claim
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For crying out loud. I have family there..my father was a fcuking unionist..you really don't know what you are talking about. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 7.13pm) Yes, and the original Unionists saw themselves as Irish. What's the big deal?
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