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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 9.44am |
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Theresa May ejected from McDonald’s after repeated ‘strong, stable leadership’ responses jam drive-thru
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 17 10.43am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Here's the funny thing: it works. You're mocking it, but it works. People think: "hmm - if the Tories are saying they are string and stable, what does that make the alternative?". You might deride it, but it works. There was no counter to "take back control". You can mock it, but that was exactly the correct approach. If it's repeated throughout the campaign, it gains traction. There is a fraction that will never vote Tory, but they don't care about your vote - you're too far gone. It's the undecideds and the waverers. This, on the other hand, would have been comedy. Such a shame they didn't use it: Hollow orators and rhetoric spouting c**ts were the problem for Athenian democracy, and they're still the problem today. Problem of democracy in a nutshell, you vote for the best policies, but everyone else if voting to f**k you with switchblades.
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 CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 Apr 17 10.45am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Here's the funny thing: it works. You're mocking it, but it works. People think: "hmm - if the Tories are saying they are string and stable, what does that make the alternative?". You might deride it, but it works. There was no counter to "take back control". You can mock it, but that was exactly the correct approach. If it's repeated throughout the campaign, it gains traction. There is a fraction that will never vote Tory, but they don't care about your vote - you're too far gone. It's the undecideds and the waverers. This, on the other hand, would have been comedy. Such a shame they didn't use it: Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, not around the eyes, look into my eyes... You're under (the poverty line and there's nothing you can/we will do about it). It's a shame that vapid soundbites are more important than setting out policy.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 28 Apr 17 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I can't wait for this election to be over so all the noisy minority London lefties can be put in their place once again and the Tories can get on with the business of government. Yawn. Why don't we just install May as Supreme Leader and disband all other political parties? It's so boring having democracy and differences of opinion.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 28 Apr 17 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Here's the funny thing: it works. You're mocking it, but it works. People think: "hmm - if the Tories are saying they are string and stable, what does that make the alternative?". You might deride it, but it works. There was no counter to "take back control". You can mock it, but that was exactly the correct approach. If it's repeated throughout the campaign, it gains traction. There is a fraction that will never vote Tory, but they don't care about your vote - you're too far gone. It's the undecideds and the waverers. This, on the other hand, would have been comedy. Such a shame they didn't use it: Tory lead cut by 7 points since election was called. Clearly this 'strong and stable' bullsh*t isn't as effective as everyone's saying it is.
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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 Hrolf The Ganger 28 Apr 17 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Why don't we just install May as Supreme Leader and disband all other political parties? It's so boring having democracy and differences of opinion. I think Labour are doing that all by themselves.
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| matt_himself Matataland 28 Apr 17 12.50pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Tory lead cut by 7 points since election was called. Clearly this 'strong and stable' bullsh*t isn't as effective as everyone's saying it is. Despite how crap Jezza and his Momentum cronies are, it is highly unlikely that the stories will get 45% of the vote and the polls will fluctuate. Reading into that matter have changed is somewhat optimistic on your part. I do love how the 'strong and stable' message has got under the skin of the Comrades.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 28 Apr 17 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Despite how crap Jezza and his Momentum cronies are, it is highly unlikely that the stories will get 45% of the vote and the polls will fluctuate. Reading into that matter have changed is somewhat optimistic on your part. I do love how the 'strong and stable' message has got under the skin of the Comrades. I think that's mainly because it's just so clearly a massive lie, which though predictable, is nonetheless patience-thinning. I'm not saying that Labour would ensure stability, but how anyone could look on the past 18 months and call them stable is beyond me.
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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| matt_himself Matataland 28 Apr 17 1.02pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I think that's mainly because it's just so clearly a massive lie, which though predictable, is nonetheless patience-thinning. I'm not saying that Labour would ensure stability, but how anyone could look on the past 18 months and call them stable is beyond me. What they are doing is inviting comparison through the message. Whom is a strong leader? Jezza? Pah! Farron? No one knows what he stands for. Nuttall? A fantasist. May is the only one whom looks, acts and talks like a leader. To say they haven't shown leadership is misleading, probably due to partisan reasons. The EU was as divisive for the Tories as it was for Labour but the Tories rallied around and have, at the very least, kept their differences largely to themselves and gotten on with governing. Labour have been willingly engaging in an ugly, and very public, civil war, a lot of which has been down to their lack of leadership.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| Stirlingsays 28 Apr 17 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Tory lead cut by 7 points since election was called. Clearly this 'strong and stable' bullsh*t isn't as effective as everyone's saying it is. The Tories at 45 per cent....wow May must really be bricking it. Only sixteen points clear.....God, how will she have any nails left?
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 Apr 17 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I think that's mainly because it's just so clearly a massive lie, which though predictable, is nonetheless patience-thinning. I'm not saying that Labour would ensure stability, but how anyone could look on the past 18 months and call them stable is beyond me. What you really mean is that you are still sulking because you lost the referendum.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 28 Apr 17 1.12pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
What they are doing is inviting comparison through the message. Whom is a strong leader? Jezza? Pah! Farron? No one knows what he stands for. Nuttall? A fantasist. May is the only one whom looks, acts and talks like a leader. To say they haven't shown leadership is misleading, probably due to partisan reasons. The EU was as divisive for the Tories as it was for Labour but the Tories rallied around and have, at the very least, kept their differences largely to themselves and gotten on with governing. Labour have been willingly engaging in an ugly, and very public, civil war, a lot of which has been down to their lack of leadership. I can't be bothered to talk about the aesthetics of leadership. I think it's a total red herring, and the reason we've allowed charlatans like Blair and Cameron in to number 10. So I'll just leave this here. What does she look like the leader of, the undead?
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Attachment: | serial thriller The Promised Land 28 Apr 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What you really mean is that you are still sulking because you lost the referendum. I'm anti EU mate.
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 17 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
What they are doing is inviting comparison through the message. Whom is a strong leader? Jezza? Pah! Farron? No one knows what he stands for. Nuttall? A fantasist. May is the only one whom looks, acts and talks like a leader. To say they haven't shown leadership is misleading, probably due to partisan reasons. The EU was as divisive for the Tories as it was for Labour but the Tories rallied around and have, at the very least, kept their differences largely to themselves and gotten on with governing. Labour have been willingly engaging in an ugly, and very public, civil war, a lot of which has been down to their lack of leadership. I'd say he's pretty resilient, having survived a constant attempt to displace him by his own parliamentary party almost since he was elected. I mean he's won the selection twice, survived sprees of resignations from his own shadow cabinet and a vote of no confidence - and still sticks to a strong left wing principle, despite the best efforts of the parliamentary labour party. It might be a one man suicide charge of the Labour party but I don't think the man is in any way weak. Cameron, lost a referendum and s**t the tory bed
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 17 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I can't be bothered to talk about the aesthetics of leadership. I think it's a total red herring, and the reason we've allowed charlatans like Blair and Cameron in to number 10. So I'll just leave this here. What does she look like the leader of, the undead? She looks like she is for 'turning' doesn't she, whilst Corbyn looks like he could pick a lock and hide in the shadows. Much as Nuttal wishes he isn't the Paladin, but clearly the Greens are hopeful Druids, and the Liberal Democrats only hope would be somekind of magic... Its not an election its a game of Dungeons and f**king Dragons.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 Apr 17 1.28pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I'm anti EU mate. Then voting Tory or UKIP is your best albeit not perfect option.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 17 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Then voting Tory or UKIP is your best albeit not perfect option. Have Labour said they're going to remain in the EU then?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 28 Apr 17 1.55pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Have Labour said they're going to remain in the EU then? Labour will say whatever their target voters want to hear just like the Tories. But Labour are not fit to govern or negotiate our exit from Europe.
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| Part Time James 28 Apr 17 1.56pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Have Labour said they're going to remain in the EU then? I do think they want to make it feel like we're still in the EU as much as they can.
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