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DanH SW2 28 Apr 17 2.09pm
Originally posted by Part Time James I do think they want to make it feel like we're still in the EU as much as they can. So having sovereignty over our own laws but enjoying the huge benefits of being in a massive free trading bloc? The absolute mentalists.

DanH

SW2 28 Apr 17 2.09pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

I do think they want to make it feel like we're still in the EU as much as they can.

So having sovereignty over our own laws but enjoying the huge benefits of being in a massive free trading bloc?

The absolute mentalists.

Part Time James 28 Apr 17 2.19pm
Originally posted by DanH So having sovereignty over our own laws but enjoying the huge benefits of being in a massive free trading bloc? The absolute mentalists. Yep, that's the entirety of their Brexit plan. Well done for condensing it down to one line without omitting anything.

Part Time James

28 Apr 17 2.19pm

Originally posted by DanH

So having sovereignty over our own laws but enjoying the huge benefits of being in a massive free trading bloc?

The absolute mentalists.

Yep, that's the entirety of their Brexit plan. Well done for condensing it down to one line without omitting anything.

DanH SW2 28 Apr 17 2.24pm
Originally posted by Part Time James Yep, that's the entirety of their Brexit plan. Well done for condensing it down to one line without omitting anything. I am skilled. Thank you for your acknowledgement.

DanH

SW2 28 Apr 17 2.24pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

Yep, that's the entirety of their Brexit plan. Well done for condensing it down to one line without omitting anything.

I am skilled. Thank you for your acknowledgement.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 2.28pm
So to recap. From the Tories we have A strong and stable government (as they've demonstrated thus far. From labour we have: For those unclear, here's what the dastardly Labour Party will do if elected. 1. Build a million new homes. 2. Make all rented property 'fit for human habitation' by law. 3. End Privatisation of the NHS and restore it as a publicly provided service. 4. Integrate Social Care and Health Care. 5. Create a National Education Service that offers publicly provided education for all, both while at school and beyond. 6. Introduce a fair tax system by making those who are better off and multinational companies pay more. 7. Renationalise the railways. 8. Control the energy industry and end overcharging. 9. Stop companies registered in Tax Havens from getting government contracts. 10 Provide FREE school meals for all children. 11. Retain the pensions triple lock so the elderly are not penalised financially. 12. Protect the environment by promoting green energy and creating a low carbon economy. 13. Establish a National Investment Bank to revive our infrastructure and industry. (Think quantitative easing, but for the benefit of the people not the banks). 14 Create a million new real jobs through interventions by the National Investment Banks. 15. Raise the minimum wage to £10 per hour, to attack poverty. 16. Provide real protections for employees at work from zero hours contracts. 17. Repeal the trade union laws which protect emplotyers at the expense of those who work for them. Now, how could anyone live in a country like that??? It would be reducing inequality and exploitation and catering for people's needs.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 2.28pm

So to recap. From the Tories we have A strong and stable government (as they've demonstrated thus far.
From labour we have: For those unclear, here's what the dastardly Labour Party will do if elected.
1. Build a million new homes. 2. Make all rented property 'fit for human habitation' by law. 3. End Privatisation of the NHS and restore it as a publicly provided service. 4. Integrate Social Care and Health Care. 5. Create a National Education Service that offers publicly provided education for all, both while at school and beyond. 6. Introduce a fair tax system by making those who are better off and multinational companies pay more. 7. Renationalise the railways. 8. Control the energy industry and end overcharging. 9. Stop companies registered in Tax Havens from getting government contracts. 10 Provide FREE school meals for all children. 11. Retain the pensions triple lock so the elderly are not penalised financially. 12. Protect the environment by promoting green energy and creating a low carbon economy. 13. Establish a National Investment Bank to revive our infrastructure and industry. (Think quantitative easing, but for the benefit of the people not the banks). 14 Create a million new real jobs through interventions by the National Investment Banks. 15. Raise the minimum wage to £10 per hour, to attack poverty. 16. Provide real protections for employees at work from zero hours contracts. 17. Repeal the trade union laws which protect emplotyers at the expense of those who work for them. Now, how could anyone live in a country like that??? It would be reducing inequality and exploitation and catering for people's needs.

Stirlingsays 28 Apr 17 2.39pm
Originally posted by nickgusset So to recap. From the Tories we have A strong and stable government (as they've demonstrated thus far. From labour we have: For those unclear, here's what the dastardly Labour Party will do if elected. 1. Build a million new homes. 2. Make all rented property 'fit for human habitation' by law. 3. End Privatisation of the NHS and restore it as a publicly provided service. 4. Integrate Social Care and Health Care. 5. Create a National Education Service that offers publicly provided education for all, both while at school and beyond. 6. Introduce a fair tax system by making those who are better off and multinational companies pay more. 7. Renationalise the railways. 8. Control the energy industry and end overcharging. 9. Stop companies registered in Tax Havens from getting government contracts. 10 Provide FREE school meals for all children. 11. Retain the pensions triple lock so the elderly are not penalised financially. 12. Protect the environment by promoting green energy and creating a low carbon economy. 13. Establish a National Investment Bank to revive our infrastructure and industry. (Think quantitative easing, but for the benefit of the people not the banks). 14 Create a million new real jobs through interventions by the National Investment Banks. 15. Raise the minimum wage to £10 per hour, to attack poverty. 16. Provide real protections for employees at work from zero hours contracts. 17. Repeal the trade union laws which protect emplotyers at the expense of those who work for them. Now, how could anyone live in a country like that??? It would be reducing inequality and exploitation and catering for people's needs. Lies to the working class. Most of what you refer to involves having a good economy and as soon as they would take over anyone rich is going to hide their money or bugger off. Labour would ruin any chance of a good deal with Brexit. They are next to useless for driving a good deal. You need hard nosed b******s, not people who don't really believe in Brexit. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Apr 2017 2.39pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

28 Apr 17 2.39pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Lies to the working class.

Most of what you refer to involves having a good economy and as soon as they would take over anyone rich is going to hide their money or bugger off.

Labour would ruin any chance of a good deal with Brexit.

They are next to useless for driving a good deal.

You need hard nosed b******s, not people who don't really believe in Brexit.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Apr 2017 2.39pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 28 Apr 17 2.41pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Lies to the working class. Most of what you refer to involves having a good economy and as soon as they would take over anyone rich is going to hide their money or bugger off. Labour would ruin any chance of a good deal with Brexit. They are next to useless for driving a good deal. You need hard nosed b******s, not people who don't really believe in Brexit. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Apr 2017 2.39pm) Is this the same good economy with growth slowing over nearly every sector?

DanH

SW2 28 Apr 17 2.41pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Lies to the working class.

Most of what you refer to involves having a good economy and as soon as they would take over anyone rich is going to hide their money or bugger off.

Labour would ruin any chance of a good deal with Brexit.

They are next to useless for driving a good deal.

You need hard nosed b******s, not people who don't really believe in Brexit.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Apr 2017 2.39pm)

Is this the same good economy with growth slowing over nearly every sector?

Stirlingsays 28 Apr 17 2.45pm
Originally posted by DanH Is this the same good economy with growth slowing over nearly every sector? This is a very good economy compared to most of the developed world. I wouldn't trust the left with a savings account let alone the national economy. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

28 Apr 17 2.45pm

Originally posted by DanH

Is this the same good economy with growth slowing over nearly every sector?

This is a very good economy compared to most of the developed world.

I wouldn't trust the left with a savings account let alone the national economy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 28 Apr 17 2.48pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays This is a very good economy compared to most of the developed world. I wouldn't trust the left with a savings account let alone the national economy. We're still an economy propped up by personal debt and artificially high property prices. The slowdown in growth with inflation creeping up are not good signs.

DanH

SW2 28 Apr 17 2.48pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is a very good economy compared to most of the developed world.

I wouldn't trust the left with a savings account let alone the national economy.

We're still an economy propped up by personal debt and artificially high property prices. The slowdown in growth with inflation creeping up are not good signs.

Nest 28 Apr 17 2.54pm
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28 Apr 17 2.54pm

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 2.55pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays This is a very good economy compared to most of the developed world. I wouldn't trust the left with a savings account let alone the national economy. Even though despite being given figures several times that Labour have a consistently better record on the economy than the tories. [Link] Stop believing the lies otherwise what credibility you have left will disappear. Attachment: Screen-Shot-2016-03-12-at-20.22.49.png (84.75Kb)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 2.55pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is a very good economy compared to most of the developed world.

I wouldn't trust the left with a savings account let alone the national economy.

Even though despite being given figures several times that Labour have a consistently better record on the economy than the tories.

[Link]

Stop believing the lies otherwise what credibility you have left will disappear.

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matt_himself Matataland 28 Apr 17 2.56pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I can't be bothered to talk about the aesthetics of leadership. I think it's a total red herring, and the reason we've allowed charlatans like Blair and Cameron in to number 10. So I'll just leave this here. What does she look like the leader of, the undead? You 'can't be bothered to talk about the aesthetics of leadership' but you make a jibe about Theresa May's appearance? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 28 Apr 17 2.56pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

I can't be bothered to talk about the aesthetics of leadership. I think it's a total red herring, and the reason we've allowed charlatans like Blair and Cameron in to number 10. So I'll just leave this here.

What does she look like the leader of, the undead?

You 'can't be bothered to talk about the aesthetics of leadership' but you make a jibe about Theresa May's appearance?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Matataland 28 Apr 17 2.58pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I'd say he's pretty resilient, having survived a constant attempt to displace him by his own parliamentary party almost since he was elected. I mean he's won the selection twice, survived sprees of resignations from his own shadow cabinet and a vote of no confidence - and still sticks to a strong left wing principle, despite the best efforts of the parliamentary labour party. It might be a one man suicide charge of the Labour party but I don't think the man is in any way weak. Cameron, lost a referendum and s**t the tory bed There is a big difference between a stubborn fool and good leader. Jezza was always going on hang on as leader as long as it takes to gerrymander Labour rules so that he leader is always a Momentum type. Nothing to admire there. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 28 Apr 17 2.58pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I'd say he's pretty resilient, having survived a constant attempt to displace him by his own parliamentary party almost since he was elected. I mean he's won the selection twice, survived sprees of resignations from his own shadow cabinet and a vote of no confidence - and still sticks to a strong left wing principle, despite the best efforts of the parliamentary labour party.

It might be a one man suicide charge of the Labour party but I don't think the man is in any way weak.

Cameron, lost a referendum and s**t the tory bed

There is a big difference between a stubborn fool and good leader.

Jezza was always going on hang on as leader as long as it takes to gerrymander Labour rules so that he leader is always a Momentum type.

Nothing to admire there.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 2.58pm
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 2.58pm

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Apr 17 3.12pm
No mention from Labour on small businesses. The sort of people who create wealth not rafts of civil servants and government workers. Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Apr 17 3.12pm

No mention from Labour on small businesses. The sort of people who create wealth not rafts of civil servants and government workers.

Pro USA & Israel

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 3.17pm
Originally posted by Jimenez No mention from Labour on small businesses. The sort of people who create wealth not rafts of civil servants and government workers. You missed it [Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 3.17pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

No mention from Labour on small businesses. The sort of people who create wealth not rafts of civil servants and government workers.

You missed it

[Link]

Stirlingsays 28 Apr 17 3.22pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Even though despite being given figures several times that Labour have a consistently better record on the economy than the tories. [Link] Stop believing the lies otherwise what credibility you have left will disappear. You are a fine one to talk about credibility. Labour better on the economy?....now there's bollocks and there's big bollocks but what you are talking there is planet sized bollocks. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

28 Apr 17 3.22pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Even though despite being given figures several times that Labour have a consistently better record on the economy than the tories.

[Link]

Stop believing the lies otherwise what credibility you have left will disappear.

You are a fine one to talk about credibility.

Labour better on the economy?....now there's bollocks and there's big bollocks but what you are talking there is planet sized bollocks.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Apr 17 3.30pm
Originally posted by nickgusset You missed it [Link] .........and soon as that clown mentioned 'Trade Union's' I'm afraid I lost interest sorry Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Apr 17 3.30pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

You missed it

[Link]

.........and soon as that clown mentioned 'Trade Union's' I'm afraid I lost interest sorry

Pro USA & Israel

Hrolf The Ganger 28 Apr 17 3.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Even though despite being given figures several times that Labour have a consistently better record on the economy than the tories. [Link] Stop believing the lies otherwise what credibility you have left will disappear. What I have experienced is Labour leaving the country in a mess which the Tories spend most of their term sorting out.

Hrolf The Ganger

28 Apr 17 3.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Even though despite being given figures several times that Labour have a consistently better record on the economy than the tories.

[Link]

Stop believing the lies otherwise what credibility you have left will disappear.

What I have experienced is Labour leaving the country in a mess which the Tories spend most of their term sorting out.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 3.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You are a fine one to talk about credibility. Labour better on the economy?....now there's bollocks and there's big bollocks but what you are talking there is planet sized bollocks. Nope. Credibility lost. The Tories since 2010 have created more debt than all labour governments put together. Labour have a better record on paying down debt. You seem to ignore this. Why? Because it creates confusion in your grey matter that all the BS you've been fed is actually BS and you don't like to hold your hands up and say you were wrong.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 3.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are a fine one to talk about credibility.

Labour better on the economy?....now there's bollocks and there's big bollocks but what you are talking there is planet sized bollocks.

Nope. Credibility lost.

The Tories since 2010 have created more debt than all labour governments put together.
Labour have a better record on paying down debt.

You seem to ignore this. Why? Because it creates confusion in your grey matter that all the BS you've been fed is actually BS and you don't like to hold your hands up and say you were wrong.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 3.35pm
Originally posted by Jimenez .........and soon as that clown mentioned 'Trade Union's' I'm afraid I lost interest sorry So you won't examine evidence. Fair enough. Don't bother engaging anymore if you can't even be bothered to read something [Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 28 Apr 17 3.35pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

.........and soon as that clown mentioned 'Trade Union's' I'm afraid I lost interest sorry

So you won't examine evidence.
Fair enough. Don't bother engaging anymore if you can't even be bothered to read something

[Link]

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