So you think the Irish government will do our border checks for us?

Was he talking QE, it did not make much sense.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

You have to back your assertion about Leave campaign saying it would ‘get rid of foreigners’.

Or did you make that up?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

It's just another accusation tossed around by condescending buffoons who can't accept that people can actually think for themselves.

Lord Bridges of Headley’s speech in the Lords (former Brexit minister):

"What is the country we wish to build once we have left the European Union? Only once we have answered this question can we properly and fully answer the second question - what agreement do we want to strike with the European Union? What do we value more, parliamentary sovereignty and control, or market access and trade?

Four months on, and there are still no clear answers to these basic, critical questions. All we hear, day after day, are conflicting, confusing voices. If this continues, and ministers cannot agree among themselves on the future relationship the Government wants, how can this prime minister possibly negotiate a clear, precise heads of terms for the future relationship with the EU?

My fear is that we will get meaningless waffle in a political declaration in October. The implementation period will not be a bridge to a clear destination. It will be a gang plank into thin air.

The EU will have the initiative in the second stage of the negotiations and we shall find ourselves forced to accept a deal that gives us access to EU markets, but without UK politicians having a meaningful say over swathes of legislation and regulation.

Some may say this outcome would not be the end of the world. Some may say it’s inevitable.

My point today is this. At this pivotal moment in our history, we cannot, we must not, indulge in that very British habit of just muddling through. With under 300 working days until we leave the European Union, we need to know the government’s answers to these simple questions.

The government must be honest with themselves and the public about the choices we face. And then the Prime Minister and her cabinet must make those choices. As has been said, to govern is to choose, and as we face the biggest challenge this country has faced since the Second World War, keeping every option open is no longer an option."

I can't help but agree with him. Today has been a story of further Brexit mismanagement by the government. The whole process has been a perfect example of the phrase "fail to prepare, prepare to fail". This utter failure to set out the stall pre-referendum has had the totally foreseeable effect of allowing mass debate and infighting on the direction of Brexit and these arguments and fights gain new momentum every time a memo is leaked or David Davis says something incompetent (quite often then).

The lack of skill with which the government put together the withdrawal bill also means it's not fit for purpose and so this makes the situation even worse and less clear as it will be ripped to shreds in the Lords. Add to this courts finding against the government on 2 completely separate issues (to add to a litany of other issues on which this government has wasted tax payers money trying to fight and appeal in the courts), and you get a picture of a government in paralysis and riddled with incompetence and a lack of ideas, ruining any possible chance that Brexit could have been a success.

Time for May to go and she should take the rest of the cabinet with her.

I agree QE is unfair. Not sure how it leaving the EU will make any difference seeing as we're not in the Eurozone.

The bloc you're talking about though is the Eurozone. the EU can exist without the Eurozone, although dismantling it would be painful and could easily end in disaster, but would not necessarily be more difficult than Brexit.

I agree to an extent that debt is a problem and QE has been a really unfairly managed policy. In and of itself though, monetary policy is just another policy tool available to central banks. It can be used to invest in infrastructure etc. but instead it's used to prop up asset prices and so has no real economic benefit, other than keeping the wolf from the door.

Debt can be a force for good, if used to stimulate growth and increases in productivity and living standards. If returns from debt financing outweigh the cost of debt the debt's share of GDP falls and there is a net benefit. It requires good fiscal policy though, something we've not had for 7 years. The US have done a lot better thanks to Obama's stimulus program.

The longer this goes on, the more convinced I am that we should offer no deal and walk.

They need us and our cash a whole lot more than we are told we need them.

No being a vassal state and yes to being a free, sovereign nation.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

I agree with this article:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

There's an argument for what you say obviously.....though the issue is over what is 'sensible'.

However, if the first stage was anything to go by I'm not so sure that it's going to happen.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)