That's a bit reductionist isn't it? America is a 'gun culture' country.

While I am not pro-gun...all things being equal...as there are exceptions in my view. While I'm not pro-gun I hardly think that simply being in the NRA is a statement upon the ethics of a person.

For example, Mogg isn't 'pro-gun' and you called him an extremist on here.

When I talk about both democrats and republicans having awful ethics I guess I'm talking about their activists and politicians (with exceptions)......If even if someone told me they were a democrat or a republican politican I'm not so child-like as to regard that as an automatic statement on their ethics. I'm not in the media, technology or educational institutions hiring someone.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2018 1.34pm)

The net is closing in, so my question would be this. Almost inevitably there will be a Trumped up reason to fire Sessions, who has recused himself on the Russia investigation, and replace him with someone able to fire Mueller. I think this could happen sooner rather than later.

If Mueller is fired, it's a constitutional crisis of sorts, well to the non blinkered and non activists. As it will mean that the president has obstructed and fired anyone able to complete this investigation into a serious issue that goes to the heart of US democracy.

Going back to the above point...and after their response straight after those kids were murdered at Sandy Hook calling for 'more people to have more guns specifically in schools', and with no thought for the families only themselves, I reckon membership of the NRA tells us a fair bit about the (lack of) ethics their folk must have.

I wonder how many gave up their membership after that? They will have some moral fibre at least. The ones that just looked the other way? Nah. None.

Edited by Kermit8 (05 Jan 2018 4.42pm)

Well, I think it's here that we can see a difference between you and me.

Calling for guns in schools as a response to Sandy Hook isn't a terrible idea....It might be or might not be the better idea for the US in their situation. I'd consider it in their situation and I offered up a possible restricted way if could be done.....I wouldn't blame them for thinking of ways....it might be the lesser evil.

You go ahead and condemn the NRA membership. I'll disagree with the idea of 'gun culture' as a healthy national choice but I'll treat people how I find them.....and I'm not going to view people as lacking 'moral fibre' for being the member of a gun club.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2018 6.27pm)

You fell for the hoax!

I bet Obama is glad to be out of it all now! Trump probably wishes he could go back to his old own life too. He keeps wanting to emulate whatever Obama is doing. Maybe they should do a wife swap!

What did Michelle ever do to deserve that?

Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech in wake of publication of explosive new book - [Link]

"President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak" libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive new book detailing the inner workings White House as a piece of "fiction".

Suggesting that he would like to see tougher laws over free speech, Mr Trump said that if libel laws "were strong... you wouldn't have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes into your head"