The last few days have been absolute gems. First the utter farce that is Italy and the shocking developments there (apparently the best excuse the Remainers can come up with is that the Italian President did what he did because he wanted to stop the markets having kittens. LOL. That went well.)

And then we have good old George Soros. You truly could not make this up. A foreign Billionaire heading up a campaign to give us poor bewildered Brits another chance to vote again so that we can acknowledge how silly we were the first time around.

Its beautiful. It really is. The only single doubt I have at the back of my mind, and it is perhaps more a sign of my paranoia than any logic, is wondering if these people can be this deliberately stupid? Part of me wonders if they actually want to create the chaos? But I need to ignore that voice although it has been right, on occasion, in the past.

Just enjoy. That is what I keep telling myself.

Edited by Matov (30 May 2018 7.05am)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

I think it would suit some remainers to have a financial crisis so they can finger point and say its only going to get worse.

What is happening in Italy is a disgrace I hope they do have another election and the euro skeptic parties win a landslide.

Reports today that George Sorros a foreign billionaire and Lord Adonis who has never held an elected position will launch a campaign for a 2nd referendum. I hope the public greet this with a massive yawn.

Part of me wants a 2nd vote only my vote would be deal or no deal with no deal meaning we leave and keep our 40bn.

I hope Mrs May takes note that the EU will be bailing out the Italians and will need our 40bn, time to turn the screw Theresa.

Edited by Badger11 (30 May 2018 7.53am)

One more point

I've been saying on here for years that by removing ourselves from the EU we will be able to minimise the economic impact of its inevitable demise and breakup....but only by about half....less so with the remainers appearing to push for a Brexit in name only.

The EU has been on a suicide mission since its enlargement and has only hastened it with Merkel's decisions as its de facto leader.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Question on this - in this no deal scenario, in your opinion (we still don't know the govt's opinion btw), what would this mean for Northern Ireland and it's border with Eire?

I've been trying to think of how this can be solved and (unsurprisingly) can't come up with anything.

This displays quite neatly the incredible lack of certainty that still exists 2 years after the referendum and well over a year since A50. Govt's handling of this has been utterly incompetent.

Where are tariffs collected though? And standards checked? Checks done for rules of origin? Also things like Quotas and Embargoes? So much harder to manage if it's allowed to dissipate into the hands of private companies.

HMRC have predicted this kind of "customs partnership" approach would cost UK £20bn (£350m a week). It's also been rejected by the EU.

I don't know. I sense that this "simple solution" would be anything but and would be expensive to manage for UK business (and therefore consumers) (and Irish ones) and would put the GFA at risk. I don't think the EU would accept a breach of the integrity of it's market like the one you describe.

It seems like a bit of a non-starter to me.

OK. Shall we put that in the draft legal text on the withdrawal? I'm sure the EU won't want any more details.

I think that could be in the "Max Fac" option which is currently also a non-starter as it relies on things not yet in existence. I'm sure one day there could be tech to minimise border presence or even eliminate it. But I doubt we're anywhere close to that.

Also we've not even started building lorry parks or improving facilities at our docks or developed an immigration policy etc., let alone started work on blockchain led customs tech!

Those pumping billions upon billions into this new technology would disagree bud.
More research needed maybe?

Buy Litecoin.

Nigel Lawson, a former chair of the Vote Leave campaign during the EU referendum and one of tens of thousands of Britons living in France, is to apply for his official French residency card.

The former chancellor said he had started the process of applying for one of the cards, known as a carte de séjour, which British expatriates are being encouraged to obtain to help bolster their rights after the UK withdraws from the EU, but added that he was “not particularly worried”.

'actually lives in France'.

Oy serial poster, the post already says that.

Read a post before you reply, if it is actually necessary and you can add something, before you rush into replying.

You have mad posters disease.