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 Part Time James  10 Mar 17 12.58pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
560 pages of this thread is there an upper limit as we could be here for eternity !!!! It'll stop when two people agree with each other. But I fear for the inhabitants of hell that don't own a coat.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 10 Mar 17 4.02pm |
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Read what the man said as an individual. Not involved with the UK govt or brexit at all.
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| elgrande bedford 10 Mar 17 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Read what the man said as an individual. Not involved with the UK govt or brexit at all. I did read it,someone has to pay for the so called " benifits" of being a member we do as a country now...read what I said.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 10 Mar 17 8.05pm |
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You are daft once the uk is out there is nothing to pay as an individual if you want to retain citizenship it will not be free but that's up to you.
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| elgrande bedford 10 Mar 17 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
You are daft once the uk is out there is nothing to pay as an individual if you want to retain citizenship it will not be free but that's up to you. So who pays for,if we as a country contribute,then if we leave,who pays for your citizenship.....seems logical to me.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 10 Mar 17 9.19pm |
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No more after this - again you have to pay for it yourself. We don't know yet what if any citizenship the EU will offer to individuals - when they do the individual will have the choice.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Mar 17 1.44pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No more after this - again you have to pay for it yourself. We don't know yet what if any citizenship the EU will offer to individuals - when they do the individual will have the choice. All I want is to be a British citizen as I was born to be and NOT an EU citizen and also have my BLUE passport back. How wonderful that would be!
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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| legaleagle 11 Mar 17 9.04pm |
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In a nutshell.... "In the coming days, perhaps as soon as Wednesday, Brexit will turn from abstract to concrete.... yet those in charge of this fateful, epochal process – and especially those who most loudly demanded it happen – seem utterly unprepared for it.... It’s as if the crew of the Titanic eyed the iceberg ahead and promptly decided to have a big squabble over whether to serve white or red.... That failing is most obvious among the Brexiteers, characterised by a refusal to own their victory and take responsibility for it. So when a voice of experience or authority dares point out the possible dangers ahead, they are either sacked, as was the fate of Michael Heseltine, attacked personally, like John Major, or else branded an “enemy of the people” who refuses to bow to the “popular will”.... Those with concerns are accused of “talking down the country” or lacking sufficient faith – as if, should Brexit make us poorer, the fault will belong to those who didn’t screw their eyes tight enough and believe. Credit to Jonn Elledge for calling this what it is: the Tinkerbell delusion.... This surely has to end with the triggering of article 50. From this moment on, the focus must be intensely practical. No more baggy rhetoric about sovereignty and “taking back control”. From now on, those who got us into this situation have to show they can get us out intact by March 2019... That will require a major shift among the Brexiteer ministers and in Downing Street. Those close to the pre-negotiations between Britain and the remaining 27 EU states report an unwarranted hubris on the UK side that augurs ill.... Such arrogance is likely to be exposed soon... "remainers will need to handle these next two years carefully, readying themselves for the day when the deal is done, and ensuring they have already placed two key questions in the front of the public mind: is this deal better than the set-up we had on 22 June 2016? And if it isn’t, why are we doing it?"
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 11 Mar 17 9.20pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
In a nutshell.... "In the coming days, perhaps as soon as Wednesday, Brexit will turn from abstract to concrete.... yet those in charge of this fateful, epochal process – and especially those who most loudly demanded it happen – seem utterly unprepared for it.... It’s as if the crew of the Titanic eyed the iceberg ahead and promptly decided to have a big squabble over whether to serve white or red.... That failing is most obvious among the Brexiteers, characterised by a refusal to own their victory and take responsibility for it. So when a voice of experience or authority dares point out the possible dangers ahead, they are either sacked, as was the fate of Michael Heseltine, attacked personally, like John Major, or else branded an “enemy of the people” who refuses to bow to the “popular will”.... Those with concerns are accused of “talking down the country” or lacking sufficient faith – as if, should Brexit make us poorer, the fault will belong to those who didn’t screw their eyes tight enough and believe. Credit to Jonn Elledge for calling this what it is: the Tinkerbell delusion.... This surely has to end with the triggering of article 50. From this moment on, the focus must be intensely practical. No more baggy rhetoric about sovereignty and “taking back control”. From now on, those who got us into this situation have to show they can get us out intact by March 2019... That will require a major shift among the Brexiteer ministers and in Downing Street. Those close to the pre-negotiations between Britain and the remaining 27 EU states report an unwarranted hubris on the UK side that augurs ill.... Such arrogance is likely to be exposed soon... "remainers will need to handle these next two years carefully, readying themselves for the day when the deal is done, and ensuring they have already placed two key questions in the front of the public mind: is this deal better than the set-up we had on 22 June 2016? And if it isn’t, why are we doing it?" You Remainers do make I larf.
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| legaleagle 11 Mar 17 9.46pm |
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Sad thing is,I suspect you Brexiteers will be making us cry in 2 years' time
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| matt_himself Matataland 11 Mar 17 10.14pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Sad thing is,I suspect you Brexiteers will be making us cry in 2 years' time Thanks for the scientific and financial analysis of why. No?
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 12 Mar 17 10.32am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Sad thing is,I suspect you Brexiteers will be making us cry in 2 years' time When do you think the plague of locusts will start?
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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