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steeleye20 Croydon 07 Jun 18 2.06pm
Where did it all start. i think the late 50's when MacMillan was rebuffed by the French. What does it compare to in history. I think 'The Hundred Years War'. So that would bring us to 2058 approx.

steeleye20

Croydon 07 Jun 18 2.06pm

Where did it all start.

i think the late 50's when MacMillan was rebuffed by the French.

What does it compare to in history.

I think 'The Hundred Years War'.

So that would bring us to 2058 approx.

matt_himself Matataland 07 Jun 18 3.16pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Thus speaks the voice of the people. In terms of the Commonwealth I read that the EU is way ahead in terms of striking FTAs with Aus and NZ. Good for them. We'll just line up at the back of the queue. Corbyn's position is not particularly relevant when it comes to the GOVERNMENT's white paper seeing as he's not in government. His stance, if anything, should help them on this matter. Their incompetence is all of their own making. Your preferred option doesn't address the NI issue. How would you address this out of interest? Nice deflection on Corbyn’s position. Like it. Suggests that you know that he has no idea on how to deal with Brexit. My preferred position on Ireland is that the EU works with us to try and find an acceptable solution rather than trying to scupper Brexit through putting up blockers on very option provided by the government. The EU is playing with lives by doing this and reinforces my view that the EUSSR is noth8ng more than a political bloc supported by bullies whom reject democracy at every turn. Greece. Brexit. Catalonia. Italy. All examples of EUSSR intransigence. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 07 Jun 18 3.16pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Thus speaks the voice of the people.

In terms of the Commonwealth I read that the EU is way ahead in terms of striking FTAs with Aus and NZ. Good for them. We'll just line up at the back of the queue.

Corbyn's position is not particularly relevant when it comes to the GOVERNMENT's white paper seeing as he's not in government. His stance, if anything, should help them on this matter. Their incompetence is all of their own making.

Your preferred option doesn't address the NI issue. How would you address this out of interest?

Nice deflection on Corbyn’s position. Like it. Suggests that you know that he has no idea on how to deal with Brexit.

My preferred position on Ireland is that the EU works with us to try and find an acceptable solution rather than trying to scupper Brexit through putting up blockers on very option provided by the government. The EU is playing with lives by doing this and reinforces my view that the EUSSR is noth8ng more than a political bloc supported by bullies whom reject democracy at every turn.

Greece. Brexit. Catalonia. Italy. All examples of EUSSR intransigence.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 07 Jun 18 3.29pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Nice deflection on Corbyn’s position. Like it. Suggests that you know that he has no idea on how to deal with Brexit. My preferred position on Ireland is that the EU works with us to try and find an acceptable solution rather than trying to scupper Brexit through putting up blockers on very option provided by the government. The EU is playing with lives by doing this and reinforces my view that the EUSSR is noth8ng more than a political bloc supported by bullies whom reject democracy at every turn. Greece. Brexit. Catalonia. Italy. All examples of EUSSR intransigence. No Deflection. I think Corbyn's stance is unhelpful and purposefully vague. Helps buy him time, but also should help the government come up with a plan given there is no real opposition to their plans. They still can't publish their white paper and their latest backstop is like a Cornish Fudge Shop (full of fudges). EU has proposed a solution. A fully workable one. They also have a ready made solution which we're now opting out of (the EU). It's not their problem to solve. Ireland is a mess of our own making. Why should they invest time and effort in proposals that have been describes as "crazy" by the foreign secretary, or which are ludicrously expensive and virtually unworkable?

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 07 Jun 18 3.29pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Nice deflection on Corbyn’s position. Like it. Suggests that you know that he has no idea on how to deal with Brexit.

Greece. Brexit. Catalonia. Italy. All examples of EUSSR intransigence.

No Deflection. I think Corbyn's stance is unhelpful and purposefully vague. Helps buy him time, but also should help the government come up with a plan given there is no real opposition to their plans. They still can't publish their white paper and their latest backstop is like a Cornish Fudge Shop (full of fudges).

EU has proposed a solution. A fully workable one. They also have a ready made solution which we're now opting out of (the EU). It's not their problem to solve. Ireland is a mess of our own making. Why should they invest time and effort in proposals that have been describes as "crazy" by the foreign secretary, or which are ludicrously expensive and virtually unworkable?

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 07 Jun 18 3.45pm
EU already pointing out that a time limited backstop is not a backstop. So DD shown up to have a worse understanding of the meaning of an English word than a bunch of foreigners. Cold water very much poured on this governments latest worthless piece of paper mere hours after its publication. Piss-up and brewery come to mind.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 07 Jun 18 3.45pm

EU already pointing out that a time limited backstop is not a backstop. So DD shown up to have a worse understanding of the meaning of an English word than a bunch of foreigners.

Cold water very much poured on this governments latest worthless piece of paper mere hours after its publication.

Piss-up and brewery come to mind.

steeleye20 Croydon 07 Jun 18 3.59pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle EU already pointing out that a time limited backstop is not a backstop. So DD shown up to have a worse understanding of the meaning of an English word than a bunch of foreigners. Cold water very much poured on this governments latest worthless piece of paper mere hours after its publication. Piss-up and brewery come to mind. A time limited backstop is Wayne Hennessey with a new contract. OY!

steeleye20

Croydon 07 Jun 18 3.59pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

EU already pointing out that a time limited backstop is not a backstop. So DD shown up to have a worse understanding of the meaning of an English word than a bunch of foreigners.

Cold water very much poured on this governments latest worthless piece of paper mere hours after its publication.

Piss-up and brewery come to mind.

A time limited backstop is Wayne Hennessey with a new contract.

OY!

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 18 4.26pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Davis told plenty of Porkies. Along with Fox and BoJo. They should all go. Politicians who tell lies...or more accurately half truths.....Blimey, let me stand back up again, you had me over with that one. If they did leave who would they be leaving Brexit to? From what I'm seeing it's not being delivered. The country voted to leave and they are amongst the few politicians in that place who actually want it. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2018 4.26pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 18 4.26pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Davis told plenty of Porkies. Along with Fox and BoJo.

They should all go.

Politicians who tell lies...or more accurately half truths.....Blimey, let me stand back up again, you had me over with that one.

If they did leave who would they be leaving Brexit to? From what I'm seeing it's not being delivered.

The country voted to leave and they are amongst the few politicians in that place who actually want it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2018 4.26pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

johnno42000 07 Jun 18 9.41pm
Interesting that a remainer is to be made editor of the Daily Mail. Edited by johnno42000 (07 Jun 2018 9.41pm) 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

johnno42000

07 Jun 18 9.41pm

Interesting that a remainer is to be made editor of the Daily Mail.

Edited by johnno42000 (07 Jun 2018 9.41pm)

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

steeleye20 Croydon 07 Jun 18 10.23pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 Interesting that a remainer is to be made editor of the Daily Mail. Edited by johnno42000 (07 Jun 2018 9.41pm) yes and having their own 'transition' period that will be quite tasty.

steeleye20

Croydon 07 Jun 18 10.23pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

Interesting that a remainer is to be made editor of the Daily Mail.

Edited by johnno42000 (07 Jun 2018 9.41pm)

yes and having their own 'transition' period that will be quite tasty.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 09 Jun 18 5.24pm
'European copyright law 'will result in meme ban', campaigners warn' [Link] Why can't the EU just stay out of our lives!

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 09 Jun 18 5.24pm

'European copyright law 'will result in meme ban', campaigners warn' [Link]

Why can't the EU just stay out of our lives!

Stirlingsays 09 Jun 18 5.44pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle 'European copyright law 'will result in meme ban', campaigners warn' [Link] Why can't the EU just stay out of our lives! Because they want to control it. Power, once given, isn't taken back easily. We are learning this lesson rather painfully at the moment. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2018 5.45pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Jun 18 5.44pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

'European copyright law 'will result in meme ban', campaigners warn' [Link]

Why can't the EU just stay out of our lives!

Because they want to control it.

Power, once given, isn't taken back easily.

We are learning this lesson rather painfully at the moment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2018 5.45pm)

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matt_himself Matataland 09 Jun 18 7.20pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle No Deflection. I think Corbyn's stance is unhelpful and purposefully vague. Helps buy him time, but also should help the government come up with a plan given there is no real opposition to their plans. They still can't publish their white paper and their latest backstop is like a Cornish Fudge Shop (full of fudges). EU has proposed a solution. A fully workable one. They also have a ready made solution which we're now opting out of (the EU). It's not their problem to solve. Ireland is a mess of our own making. Why should they invest time and effort in proposals that have been describes as "crazy" by the foreign secretary, or which are ludicrously expensive and virtually unworkable? This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23. This is an issue that the EU needs to assist with because he EU must respect democracy. If not, butt out and let us sort his out only with the Republic of Ireland. The EU did diddly squat to assist with peace in Ireland and I am sure that the Irish government is wlling to do a sensible deal with their largest trading partner. If it doesn’t, it is f*ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment. If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f* off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation. Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 09 Jun 18 7.20pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23.

This is an issue that the EU needs to assist with because he EU must respect democracy. If not, butt out and let us sort his out only with the Republic of Ireland. The EU did diddly squat to assist with peace in Ireland and I am sure that the Irish government is wlling to do a sensible deal with their largest trading partner.

If it doesn’t, it is f***ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment.

If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f*** off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation.

Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Stirlingsays 09 Jun 18 9.23pm
Originally posted by matt_himself This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23. This is an issue that the EU needs to assist with because he EU must respect democracy. If not, butt out and let us sort his out only with the Republic of Ireland. The EU did diddly squat to assist with peace in Ireland and I am sure that the Irish government is wlling to do a sensible deal with their largest trading partner. If it doesn’t, it is f*ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment. If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f* off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation. Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm) Seconded. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

09 Jun 18 9.23pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23.

If it doesn’t, it is f***ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment.

If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f*** off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation.

Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm)

Seconded.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

corkery Cork City 09 Jun 18 10.56pm
Originally posted by matt_himself This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23. This is an issue that the EU needs to assist with because he EU must respect democracy. If not, butt out and let us sort his out only with the Republic of Ireland. The EU did diddly squat to assist with peace in Ireland and I am sure that the Irish government is wlling to do a sensible deal with their largest trading partner. If it doesn’t, it is f*ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment. If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f* off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation. Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm) Ireland's largest trading partner is the USA and then the EU. Ireland should do a deal with the UK but small countries in the EU are not cared about so Ireland will side with the EU unfortunately and not the UK. Lets be realistic, the PSNI does not control large parts of the border, namely South Armagh, what are 5 customs officers going to do there? Edited by corkery (09 Jun 2018 10.58pm) We'll never die

corkery

Cork City 09 Jun 18 10.56pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23.

If it doesn’t, it is f***ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment.

If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f*** off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation.

Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm)

Ireland's largest trading partner is the USA and then the EU. Ireland should do a deal with the UK but small countries in the EU are not cared about so Ireland will side with the EU unfortunately and not the UK.

Lets be realistic, the PSNI does not control large parts of the border, namely South Armagh, what are 5 customs officers going to do there?

Edited by corkery (09 Jun 2018 10.58pm)

We'll never die

Badger11 Beckenham 10 Jun 18 8.24am
Originally posted by corkery Ireland's largest trading partner is the USA and then the EU. Ireland should do a deal with the UK but small countries in the EU are not cared about so Ireland will side with the EU unfortunately and not the UK. Lets be realistic, the PSNI does not control large parts of the border, namely South Armagh, what are 5 customs officers going to do there? Edited by corkery (09 Jun 2018 10.58pm) That's what I have been saying. Major importers and exporters will do their paperwork / taxes from their offices like we check in online for flights. There will be smuggling but I don't think it will be big enough to jeopardise the Good Friday Agreement. It happens now. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 10 Jun 18 8.24am

Originally posted by corkery

Lets be realistic, the PSNI does not control large parts of the border, namely South Armagh, what are 5 customs officers going to do there?

Edited by corkery (09 Jun 2018 10.58pm)

That's what I have been saying. Major importers and exporters will do their paperwork / taxes from their offices like we check in online for flights. There will be smuggling but I don't think it will be big enough to jeopardise the Good Friday Agreement. It happens now.

One more point

Badger11 Beckenham 10 Jun 18 8.26am
More revelations today about foreign interference in the referendum. But enough of President Obama and George Soros what about them Russians? One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 10 Jun 18 8.26am

More revelations today about foreign interference in the referendum.

But enough of President Obama and George Soros what about them Russians?

One more point

Penge Eagle Beckenham 10 Jun 18 11.15am
Originally posted by Badger11 That's what I have been saying. Major importers and exporters will do their paperwork / taxes from their offices like we check in online for flights. There will be smuggling but I don't think it will be big enough to jeopardise the Good Friday Agreement. It happens now. It's funny how European countries that aren't in the EU can cope with no issues.

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 10 Jun 18 11.15am

Originally posted by Badger11

It's funny how European countries that aren't in the EU can cope with no issues.

steeleye20 Croydon 10 Jun 18 11.54am
Originally posted by Badger11 More revelations today about foreign interference in the referendum. But enough of President Obama and George Soros what about them Russians? haha the Russians again now replacing Brussels in the UK's blame game. I am surprised they don't get blamed for the northern and general rail fiasco but then Frankie Boyle has no complaints in his comfortable Russian train journeys. It must be EU leaves on the line, or should we say 'leavers' on the line. Leavers who will be bleating ever more in the future and never take responsiblity for their s*e country, which is only happening because of them. Those of them that are not actually leaving to live in the EU after transfering their funds there. The race is on to the bottom for the UK, is it the fault of Brussels or Russia.** As long as its not Trump, who is annexing the UK shortly. 'Never give a sucker an even break' That is the Trump maxim and we are lining up in his sights.

steeleye20

Croydon 10 Jun 18 11.54am

Originally posted by Badger11

More revelations today about foreign interference in the referendum.

But enough of President Obama and George Soros what about them Russians?

haha the Russians again now replacing Brussels in the UK's blame game.

I am surprised they don't get blamed for the northern and general rail fiasco but then Frankie Boyle has no complaints in his comfortable Russian train journeys.

It must be EU leaves on the line, or should we say 'leavers' on the line.

Leavers who will be bleating ever more in the future and never take responsiblity for their s***e country, which is only happening because of them.

Those of them that are not actually leaving to live in the EU after transfering their funds there.

The race is on to the bottom for the UK, is it the fault of Brussels or Russia.

As long as its not Trump, who is annexing the UK shortly.

'Never give a sucker an even break'

That is the Trump maxim and we are lining up in his sights.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jun 18 12.20pm
Originally posted by matt_himself This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23. This is an issue that the EU needs to assist with because he EU must respect democracy. If not, butt out and let us sort his out only with the Republic of Ireland. The EU did diddly squat to assist with peace in Ireland and I am sure that the Irish government is wlling to do a sensible deal with their largest trading partner. If it doesn’t, it is f*ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment. If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f* off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation. Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm) This is exactly the attitude of Brits since Cromwell in Ireland. The Irish border issue is not one we can just brush under the carpet or wash our hands of. It's incumbent on Brexiters to come up with a workable solution or to accept one of the EU's.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 11 Jun 18 12.20pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

This is exactly the belligerent attitude that the EU and Remainers have adopted since June 23.

If it doesn’t, it is f***ed and it’s getting that way. It’s anti democratic actions in Greece, Ireland and Italy are producing the reflex of anti-EU sentiment.

If the EU wants to be a partner of the UK, great. If not, f*** off and we will happily subscribe to a no deal situation.

Edited by matt_himself (09 Jun 2018 7.21pm)

This is exactly the attitude of Brits since Cromwell in Ireland.

The Irish border issue is not one we can just brush under the carpet or wash our hands of. It's incumbent on Brexiters to come up with a workable solution or to accept one of the EU's.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jun 18 12.21pm
EY's latest European attractiveness survey has seen London lose it's top spot for investor attractiveness for the first time to Paris. Brexit seen as a major headache for investors.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 11 Jun 18 12.21pm

EY's latest European attractiveness survey has seen London lose it's top spot for investor attractiveness for the first time to Paris. Brexit seen as a major headache for investors.

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