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vic rouse Flag basingstoke 28 Jun 19 2.18pm

Totally agree with this

 

vic rouse Flag basingstoke 28 Jun 19 2.20pm

Sorry meant to say I totally agree with painter

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 2.24pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When Zaha goes that will be our two best players gone.

I'm not criticising it as such as only the future will inform us as to the wisedom.

Also, keeping a player at a club against their wishes can bring its own problems and we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Anyway when Zaha goes that will be truly the start of a new era at the club......probably bring in a new style of football and everything will look different.

Things are going to be changing.....and as life rules, change will be s***e for some and beneficial for others.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jun 2019 1.09pm)

I was counting on them never ever retiring or leaving and staying to play with Schlupp and Benteke or any non scoring forward line or any unwanted surplus players left to loan in August.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 2.31pm

The error with selling Wright in 91 to Arsenal, who’d just won the league in 89 and 91 before he went onto win a cup double in 93 and play in Europe etc etc was who we signed afterwards, not that we sold him.

Ian Wright was a key component of our team, as was AJ, after keeping one more year on a Prem sage in the championship. AWB is not a key component in our team.

We had to sell someone. Better it’s AWB than Zaha or Luka. Now what if it was Luka?

Simon Jordan was on Talksport yesterday with the chance to tear into Parish. He didn’t. He agreed with what Parish has done and said similar to me and others have been saying, and that’s from someone experiencing the difficulties of F.C. ownership.

 


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paperhat Flag croydon 28 Jun 19 2.37pm

Originally posted by pompeyeagle
My only concern would be what Roy does with the money. What we don’t need is any more Jachs, Rakips or Sorloths.

Sadly, its not Roy, its concern over what Freedman and PArish do with the money

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 28 Jun 19 2.44pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I was counting on them never ever retiring or leaving and staying to play with Schlupp and Benteke or any non scoring forward line or any unwanted surplus players left to loan in August.

Bring back Calvin Andrew that's what I say.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Jun 19 3.16pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

fed up with this idea that he's only not been a part of the Senior squad just Because he's with us, simply not justified, (in this Case)

There's Walker and TAA both before him in the pecking order, and yes, Awb is a Better defender than either of them, but he no where near their level from an attacking perspective (yet).

Add to that he's had a few opportunites in the England youth setup where he hasn't exactly shined, and you begin to see that perhaps he's not ready for a full international call up (Again yet).

He may get a call up while at ManU - and we'll never know if he would have after another season with us, but I think that it's unlikely without an injury to TAA or KW. What we do know, is that if he succeeds at ManU he will do so under a greater microscope, and under greater pressure. This will only help in when playing for england.

He's had one full year playing for F*cks sake, let him develop(shame it's not with us). The obsession in this country with rushing through youngsters does me in!

Never understood this mentality. No logic in it whatsoever.

If you're good enough you're old enough.

You admit that he's better than Kyle, so he should be picked for the squad simple as that.

 

ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Jun 19 3.22pm

Originally posted by gambler

You spend your whole life supporting a club hoping they'll win something.

But some supporters would rather premier league survival over a cup win.

What's the difference hrolf?

There's a huge difference and it's fans like you with this tin pot mentality that enable Parish to get away with being chronically unambitious.

The difference is simple:

A trophy is forever.
Aiming just for survival eventually leads to missing that target and then what have you got? The trophy cabinet is still empty.

If you offered me the fa cup now and guaranteed relegation I'd take it.

With this "one more year of survival" mentality it's a self fulfilling prophecy, might as well take some silverware and get it over with.

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 28 Jun 19 3.36pm

Does anyone else not find it strange that one of AWBs advisors was Wilfs brother I think called Herve.

 


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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 28 Jun 19 4.30pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Does anyone else not find it strange that one of AWBs advisors was Wilfs brother I think called Herve.

I know Herve very well... Let’s just say he used to love and have a little stay at Croydon Nick..... He’s a real lovely bloke.....

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 4.34pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

There's a huge difference and it's fans like you with this tin pot mentality that enable Parish to get away with being chronically unambitious.

The difference is simple:

A trophy is forever.
Aiming just for survival eventually leads to missing that target and then what have you got? The trophy cabinet is still empty.

If you offered me the fa cup now and guaranteed relegation I'd take it.

With this "one more year of survival" mentality it's a self fulfilling prophecy, might as well take some silverware and get it over with.

The sad truth is an fa cup victory doesn’t build the fanbase and club like it used to when that was the only club match on tv or one of about a dozen every season. A lot of people don’t even watch some of the fa cup finals. Being in the premier league is where it’s at and the place to be now. Charlton were growing alarmingly when they were here. The longer you stay, the more fans you attract and keep. More than you ever will lifting the fa cup which is pretty much ignored by most until the semis or quarters.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Jun 2019 4.35pm)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 4.37pm

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

I know Herve very well... Let’s just say he used to love and have a little stay at Croydon Nick..... He’s a real lovely bloke.....

Nick from Croydon? Is he a stand up guy or a little rascal?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 5.27pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The sad truth is an fa cup victory doesn’t build the fanbase and club like it used to when that was the only club match on tv or one of about a dozen every season. A lot of people don’t even watch some of the fa cup finals. Being in the premier league is where it’s at and the place to be now. Charlton were growing alarmingly when they were here. The longer you stay, the more fans you attract and keep. More than you ever will lifting the fa cup which is pretty much ignored by most until the semis or quarters.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Jun 2019 4.35pm)

And selling you star players does?
Fans come to see winning, exciting teams. Only the hardcore turn up to watch any old crap.

Any potential young fan now has another reason to Support Man U over Palace.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 5.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And selling you star players does?
Fans come to see winning, exciting teams. Only the hardcore turn up to watch any old crap.

Any potential young fan now has another reason to Support Man U over Palace.

We have awful strikers and no money. You’ll get there.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 5.47pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We have awful strikers and no money. You’ll get there.

And you can tell me all about it when we actually sign someone that is not bang average.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 5.55pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And you can tell me all about it when we actually sign someone that is not bang average.

If you had to downsize or starve to death, what would you do?

We have serious financial issues.

 


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davidmyboy Flag 28 Jun 19 6.41pm

For me he should have stayed another season, hope it was the right choice as even with Manure would not like to see him fail would liked to have seen a bit more commitment to a club who has kept the faith, grass root supporters deserve a little more from players.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 6.56pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If you had to downsize or starve to death, what would you do?

We have serious financial issues.

We will be downsizing real quick in the Championship.

What message does this send out to the players?

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 7.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

We will be downsizing real quick in the Championship.

What message does this send out to the players?

We can get relegated with Benteke, Wickham and/or some chance loan you keep saying we should do until the club is sold. That isn’t a concrete plan. It’s being a bit spoilt when we can’t afford to have what you want.

We don’t have any funds, we have financial troubles, and we struggle to score at home and plenty of games. We’ve sold a right back, not a playmaker or key pivotal position in the team. AWB is actually ineffective in attack and the area we could do with a full back supporting effectively.

I’d rather we didn’t have to sell him but I’m seeing this in reality and Zaha is more of a concern anyway. We survived 5 seasons without AWB but we’re getting weaker and weaker at creating and scoring. That is a fact.

Why don’t you wait and see what happens with replacement left and squad setup?

 


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