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Brentmiester_General  Front line in the battle against t... 09 Jul 18 7.12pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Really? That's one hell of a brooooooooaaaad statement to make. You want me to expand an already broad statement?
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| .TUX. 09 Jul 18 7.14pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
You want me to expand an already broad statement? Yep.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 09 Jul 18 7.23pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Yep. I’m not wasting my time when you clearly aren’t going to take any of it on board. You’ve displayed numerous times that you are for Brexit no matter what. And now you’re trying to defend the indefensible by saying that people are going to blame Brexit for the mess that is only caused by Brexit when the s*** hits the fan. Edited by Brentmiester_General (09 Jul 2018 7.28pm)
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 steeleye20 Croydon 09 Jul 18 7.29pm |
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Corpses piling up in the Tory europe graveyard. They will need an extension, how about a grant from the EU?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 09 Jul 18 8.15pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
I’m not wasting my time when you clearly aren’t going to take any of it on board. You’ve displayed numerous times that you are for Brexit no matter what. And now you’re trying to defend the indefensible by saying that people are going to blame Brexit for the mess that is only caused by Brexit when the s*** hits the fan. Edited by Brentmiester_General (09 Jul 2018 7.28pm) Brexiteers aren't capable of rational debate, and can't tolerate detail. All you would get as a result of diligent response, is to be called a 'knob' or 'traitor'.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 09 Jul 18 8.19pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Brexiteers aren't capable of rational debate, and can't tolerate detail. All you would get as a result of diligent response, is to be called a 'knob' or 'traitor'. I agree. It really is bordering on insanity.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 09 Jul 18 8.38pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Brexiteers aren't capable of rational debate, and can't tolerate detail. All you would get as a result of diligent response, is to be called a 'knob' or 'traitor'. Erm, the discussion on whether joining the EU was a good thing was debated in a 'rational' manner for months before and after the referendum in lots of detail. Not sure of the point in going over old ground. For reasons I have stated before, leaving is FAR better than staying. There is no reason why competent politicians could not act out the wishes of the people. We are where we are now, not because Brexit is a bad idea – it's still FAR better than remaining – but because the Maybot has deliberately thwarted it. Never trust government!
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| steeleye20 Croydon 09 Jul 18 9.04pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Erm, the discussion on whether joining the EU was a good thing was debated in a 'rational' manner for months before and after the referendum in lots of detail. Not sure of the point in going over old ground. For reasons I have stated before, leaving is FAR better than staying. There is no reason why competent politicians could not act out the wishes of the people. We are where we are now, not because Brexit is a bad idea – it's still FAR better than remaining – but because the Maybot has deliberately thwarted it. Never trust government! How many times through history do we see that innocent people dissenting are called traitors. Later we find that they were totally vindicated.
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| .TUX. 09 Jul 18 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
I’m not wasting my time when you clearly aren’t going to take any of it on board. You’ve displayed numerous times that you are for Brexit no matter what. And now you’re trying to defend the indefensible by saying that people are going to blame Brexit for the mess that is only caused by Brexit when the s*** hits the fan. Edited by Brentmiester_General (09 Jul 2018 7.28pm) 1. No bud, i'm not defending anything (or anyone for that matter). Sadly.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 09 Jul 18 9.24pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
How many times through history do we see that innocent people dissenting are called traitors. Later we find that they were totally vindicated. And plenty of times they weren't!
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jul 18 9.38pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Ditto. Oh well. My personal prediction is that the EU will become more euro-skeptic and more towards a looser confederation. At some point we may wish to re-join an organisation that looked more like the one we joined. Errrr....sorry....I've just woke up from a whimsical dreamlike state......After some smelling salts...I should think that during the next crash, it'll break up...perhaps one by one. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2018 9.39pm)
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jul 18 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The EU is of course grateful for your informed prediction of its demise. But puzzled why you can never bring yourself to discuss your own countries future. Unless to say dont worry it will be ok, no plans are necessary. You just go over the too, I will be leading you from the nearest chateau........... Johnson and Davis have suddenly seen the light, my thought was serious food shortages, we have 66 millions here. Thinking though.......... There will be no 'demise' of any of the northern European countries.....or indeed the anglosphere. Ultimately the richer countries will insulate and protect themselves. Economies will follow the usual boom and bust cycle. That's the end of my mystic Stirling predictions.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 10 Jul 18 9.07am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Hell yeah. The country is far far more important than the Tory party. Given the fact that it looks increasingly likely that the Tories will keep May on come what may (no pun intended), do you think this is a clear indication that the Tories always put themselves first and never the country? Can they really recover and win the next GE if they keep her on and deliver a soft Brexit? I have no idea, but I hope not.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 10 Jul 18 9.09am |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Erm, the discussion on whether joining the EU was a good thing was debated in a 'rational' manner for months before and after the referendum in lots of detail. Not sure of the point in going over old ground. For reasons I have stated before, leaving is FAR better than staying. There is no reason why competent politicians could not act out the wishes of the people. We are where we are now, not because Brexit is a bad idea – it's still FAR better than remaining – but because the Maybot has deliberately thwarted it. Never trust government! a) most of the cabinet are incompetent. b) still not seen any realistic proposal from any Brexiter over the Irish border, other than sea border between the island of Ireland and GB, which we're led to believe isn't happening in a month of Sundays.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 10 Jul 18 10.44am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Given the fact that it looks increasingly likely that the Tories will keep May on come what may (no pun intended), do you think this is a clear indication that the Tories always put themselves first and never the country? Can they really recover and win the next GE if they keep her on and deliver a soft Brexit? I have no idea, but I hope not. I think on this specific issue you have a point. However if May is putting party before country she should actually advocate a hard Brexit. The vast majority of Tory party members and voters want to leave the EU full stop. May is pandering to the majority Tory MP's who are remainers. They are the ones out of step with their own members. Corbyn is now in a great position because many of us will not vote Tory if this goes ahead, the next election is his to lose. Mind you his party is equally split over Europe so he has his own challenges.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 10 Jul 18 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I think on this specific issue you have a point. However if May is putting party before country she should actually advocate a hard Brexit. The vast majority of Tory party members and voters want to leave the EU full stop. May is pandering to the majority Tory MP's who are remainers. They are the ones out of step with their own members. Corbyn is now in a great position because many of us will not vote Tory if this goes ahead, the next election is his to lose. Mind you his party is equally split over Europe so he has his own challenges. Maybe May is putting her own job first? Tory members will only get a say at MPs say so though and that seems unlikely at present.
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