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teddingtoneagle Flag TEDDINGTON 28 Jun 19 7.11pm

Bostock comes to mind, though at least we'll get some dosh. A poor day for the club when we can't keep hold of our best talent. My prediction is we wont get any decent players in return (though we may spend the money) - championship beckons, especially if Wilf goes too. We'll have no one that can change a game and keep us us!

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 7.26pm

Originally posted by teddingtoneagle

Bostock comes to mind, though at least we'll get some dosh. A poor day for the club when we can't keep hold of our best talent. My prediction is we wont get any decent players in return (though we may spend the money) - championship beckons, especially if Wilf goes too. We'll have no one that can change a game and keep us us!

Yep. Wilf going will be the signal that the investors want a fast buck before they sell up, leaving us to be relegated and face a player exodus and another possible decade in the Championship.

Not doing that again. I'm too old to waste my time.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 7.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yep. Wilf going will be the signal that the investors want a fast buck before they sell up, leaving us to be relegated and face a player exodus and another possible decade in the Championship.

Not doing that again. I'm too old to waste my time.

Reality is you don’t know what’s happening but you’re making your mind up anyway.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 7.43pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Reality is you don’t know what’s happening but you’re making your mind up anyway.

Supporters like you are enabling the board to do what they want.

Many of our fans have no ambition and that allows this club to act accordingly.

Imagine if some other clubs sold their two best players in one season. There would be mayhem.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Jun 2019 7.44pm)

 

teddingtoneagle Flag TEDDINGTON 28 Jun 19 7.47pm

A very fine margin at times over the last few seasons, fortunately we had a game changer in Wilf and a good first season from Benteke that resulted in us ending up mid table. But once the confidence goes and no one is there with the magic, we've had it. Are there players that we can realistically hope to bring in that would replace Wilf and Aaron? We were three quality players short prior to their departure/ anticipated departure.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Jun 19 7.48pm

Originally posted by teddingtoneagle

A poor day for the club when we can't keep hold of our best talent.

Is any other lower to mid table club any different as I seem to recall that most of them will flog their star player if offered serious money

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 8.33pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Supporters like you are enabling the board to do what they want.

Many of our fans have no ambition and that allows this club to act accordingly.

Imagine if some other clubs sold their two best players in one season. There would be mayhem.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Jun 2019 7.44pm)

One of them is still a full back who we managed without for 5 seasons.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 8.34pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Is any other lower to mid table club any different as I seem to recall that most of them will flog their star player if offered serious money

Hrolf and others have a selective memory on this subject.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 8.45pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Hrolf and others have a selective memory on this subject.

We will see who has selective memory when we get relegated.

All this pragmatism is making me wonder why some of us bother to follow football at all.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 8.49pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

One of them is still a full back who we managed without for 5 seasons.

I managed without my wife for 25 years so should I divorce her?

What ridiculous logic.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 8.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

We will see who has selective memory when we get relegated.

All this pragmatism is making me wonder why some of us bother to follow football at all.

We’re a smaller club swimming in a big pond. we all know this. You’ve temporarily forgotten this and gotten used to almost 11 very high calibre players, which alone has its dangers with very week backups, before you consider the 9th highest wage bill and highest wage/revenue ratio. We’re hamstrung because of mistakes made. That is where the errors have been. Bad choice or no added value of investors and knock on effects of poor scouting. Signing and paying players we should never be doing. Benteke and Sakho ffs. Get real. We’re the only club down there doing that and it doesn’t last, hence this sale.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 8.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I managed without my wife for 25 years so should I divorce her?

What ridiculous logic.

You didn’t perform in the bedroom without her I expect. And this is a football team, not man and wife, so ridiculous analogy.

 


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Curlyeagle 2 Flag Crowborogh 28 Jun 19 8.59pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We’re a smaller club swimming in a big pond. we all know this. You’ve temporarily forgotten this and gotten used to almost 11 very high calibre players, which alone has its dangers with very week backups, before you consider the 9th highest wage bill and highest wage/revenue ratio. We’re hamstrung because of mistakes made. That is where the errors have been. Bad choice or no added value of investors and knock on effects of poor scouting. Signing and paying players we should never be doing. Benteke and Sakho ffs. Get real. We’re the only club down there doing that and it doesn’t last, hence this sale.

Have to say Rudi I think this post is nail on head. There comes a point when you have to cut your cloth accordingly

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 9.08pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You didn’t perform in the bedroom without her I expect. And this is a football team, not man and wife, so ridiculous analogy.

Be serious.

The idea that you didn't have a player before you did is possibly the daftest excuse to sell player I have ever heard.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 9.10pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We’re a smaller club swimming in a big pond. we all know this. You’ve temporarily forgotten this and gotten used to almost 11 very high calibre players, which alone has its dangers with very week backups, before you consider the 9th highest wage bill and highest wage/revenue ratio. We’re hamstrung because of mistakes made. That is where the errors have been. Bad choice or no added value of investors and knock on effects of poor scouting. Signing and paying players we should never be doing. Benteke and Sakho ffs. Get real. We’re the only club down there doing that and it doesn’t last, hence this sale.

So we are compounding bad decisions with more bad decisions.

I get it.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 9.46pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Be serious.

The idea that you didn't have a player before you did is possibly the daftest excuse to sell player I have ever heard.

We’ve had and relied on Wilf in all but the first season in the Prem. We haven’t with AWB. That is the point. Even Simon Jordan agreed with Parish’s decisions here andche slates Parish for anything he can usually.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 9.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So we are compounding bad decisions with more bad decisions.

I get it.

There needs to be a way out of it, and again, how do you think we’ll address troubles on the pitch with a net budget of £10 mil or under?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 10.07pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There needs to be a way out of it, and again, how do you think we’ll address troubles on the pitch with a net budget of £10 mil or under?

If we are relegated, how good do think this solution will look?

 

Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 28 Jun 19 10.12pm

It's obvious that we are not made of money, the american investors are not coughing up and i guess why should they when they don't have final say.... they want to do things their way, it isn't happening and they want out. It's an embaressing situation really.

We need to forget AWB ever happened, he was an anomaly - we need to be looking at upgrading Ward - so what kind of right back would we be looking at and how much, most of us would look at 15 mil would be seen as great, considering what Tomkins cost us and the way he adapted. So we spend that and Ward is replaced - we then have 30 mil in the bank left over. Ok, we can look at left back.... using Schlupp as the back up and again spend 15 for a decent/promising left back - that's 15 mil left. Not to take into account what the sell of PVA would get us.

Ok, so we tighten up our defense which has been above average in my opinion on a consistent level. We then have some money left over to negotiate with. We have Benteke, Wickham and Ayew i believe as the options. Now, selling Benteke at a loss, let's say we 12 for him, that allows us to spend around 20 on attack.

Not bad hey? all from selling a player that came out of no where and wasn't part of the plan, never was...

Don't even get me started on Wilf.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 10.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If we are relegated, how good do think this solution will look?

If we cannot score and a budget of £10 mil or 50 pence do you think we’ll survive?

 


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