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Originally posted by Mapletree
Are you really so thick as to not understand why being in a minority puts you in a less powerful situation than being in a majority group? Maybe that explains why you supported Brexit. Because the small guy holds all the power eh? Really? If minorities are more likely to be in 'less powerful' situations...presumably because of 'oppression', then why is it that both our Chinese and Indian minorities both earn higher proportionally than the white British majority. If what you stated was true, this wouldn't be allowed to happen.....but it isn't, it's based upon lies. And if the majority are more fortunate then explain why working class White boys are the least likely to go to university? Again, if what you state were true, this would never be allowed to happen. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 9.15pm)
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Are you really so thick as to not understand why being in a minority puts you in a less powerful situation than being in a majority group? Maybe that explains why you supported Brexit. Because the small guy holds all the power eh? So what? No one made people come here for work. You make it sound like we have a duty to look after other people's interests before our own. The Indians know this. They endured casual racism and prejudice and yet are doing just fine. You could say the same of the Jews. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Dec 2020 9.39pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Really? If minorities are more likely to be in 'less powerful' situations...presumably because of 'oppression', then why is it that both our Chinese and Indian minorities both earn higher proportionally than the white British majority. If what you stated was true, this wouldn't be allowed to happen.....but it isn't, it's based upon lies. And if the majority are more fortunate then explain why working class White boys are the least likely to go to university? Again, if what you state were true, this would never be allowed to happen. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 9.15pm) OK, clearly you are that thick
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Originally posted by Mapletree
OK, clearly you are that thick So you can't answer the question because you know that your position is not credible. This episode has nothing to do with sense and everything to do with politics and profit.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
OK, clearly you are that thick Clearly.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That still doesn’t address any outcome. Boost awareness? OK, job done. The issue that’s been identified is that there is “systemic racism” so how is that to be addressed? It's not the issue. The issue is the booing. Whether it will have any effect is another debate. Clearly the players hope it will, so why disrespect them? They may be wrong. If they are at least they have tried.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's not the issue. The issue is the booing. Whether it will have any effect is another debate. Clearly the players hope it will, so why disrespect them? They may be wrong. If they are at least they have tried. This sounds like a John Lennon song.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
This sounds like a John Lennon song. No
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Originally posted by Mapletree
No If you have a failing it’s that you don’t recognise not everyone is as evolved and empathetic as you are.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
This sounds like a John Lennon song. Of course not! The fans aren't being told anything! Especially that they are racist. The players are making a gesture to raise awareness of discrimination. If that chimes with someone who harbours racist views sobeit. They will find that themselves.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If you have a failing it’s that you don’t recognise not everyone is as evolved and empathetic as you are. True that
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course not! The fans aren't being told anything! Especially that they are racist. The players are making a gesture to raise awareness of discrimination. If that chimes with someone who harbours racist views sobeit. They will find that themselves. Are the fans not part of the society that enforces this discrimination with such furious vigour?
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Originally posted by eritheagle
The PFA asked all it's members whether the players wanted to continue with "taking the knee". The usual stance of the leftie, liberal, WOKE, snowflakes is to stick up for the poor minority so I take it that certain people who were for it will be now changing their view and wanting it to stop. Otherwise they'll be upsetting the feelings of the 20% minority that voted against it!
Footballers are "thick", "greedy", "Marxist", "sheep" or all of these. Despite what the FA, Sky, footballers themselves, club owners, the England manager and captain say - taking the knee before a game is being done to support a Marxist movement hell bent on violence and white subjugation. Immigrants are "gang rapists", "scroungers" and "attack poppy sellers". Black people are "racist", responsible for "knife crime". Any black person killed by the police must have deserved it because they had "violent pasts" and were "drug dealers". Even if they were unarmed, in custody and literally being choked to death by a police officer. Anyone that does not feel that whites are victims and their rights are being violated is a "pinko", "leftie", "commie", "Marxist", "liberal", "woke", "snowflake", "has the IQ of a 4 year old" and is "spoiling the forum" by daring to put forward a reasoned counter argument. Here is exactly what Roy said yesterday about players overwhelmingly wanting to continue taking the knee: "I'm very pleased they were consulted and took the choice. When questions are asked about stuff like this, players are the most important to be consulted. Obviously they feel it's still serving a purpose, and everything that can be done has got to be applauded. I applaud them for deciding on this issue, and I'm 100% behind them". Roy doesn't strike me as a Marxist, Black Power activist or left wing zealot. I suspect he has a high IQ and he knows our players well and why they are doing this. But obviously he must now be demonised by some. I get that taking a knee has a sell by date and will need to be replaced in due course. But to return to the original discussion, booing it will be seen as racist and will shame our club and any taking part. Maybe these demonisers would be more comfortable posting on a site that is more suited and compliant to their world view.
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Originally posted by Plumpton eagle
Footballers are "thick", "greedy", "Marxist", "sheep" or all of these. Despite what the FA, Sky, footballers themselves, club owners, the England manager and captain say - taking the knee before a game is being done to support a Marxist movement hell bent on violence and white subjugation. Immigrants are "gang rapists", "scroungers" and "attack poppy sellers". Black people are "racist", responsible for "knife crime". Any black person killed by the police must have deserved it because they had "violent pasts" and were "drug dealers". Even if they were unarmed, in custody and literally being choked to death by a police officer. Anyone that does not feel that whites are victims and their rights are being violated is a "pinko", "leftie", "commie", "Marxist", "liberal", "woke", "snowflake", "has the IQ of a 4 year old" and is "spoiling the forum" by daring to put forward a reasoned counter argument. Here is exactly what Roy said yesterday about players overwhelmingly wanting to continue taking the knee: "I'm very pleased they were consulted and took the choice. When questions are asked about stuff like this, players are the most important to be consulted. Obviously they feel it's still serving a purpose, and everything that can be done has got to be applauded. I applaud them for deciding on this issue, and I'm 100% behind them". Roy doesn't strike me as a Marxist, Black Power activist or left wing zealot. I suspect he has a high IQ and he knows our players well and why they are doing this. But obviously he must now be demonised by some. I get that taking a knee has a sell by date and will need to be replaced in due course. But to return to the original discussion, booing it will be seen as racist and will shame our club and any taking part. Maybe these demonisers would be more comfortable posting on a site that is more suited and compliant to their world view. I'm quite comfortable posting on this site when you are the owner you can set the rules. Most of us who object to the virtue signalling are not for racism but against politics in football. By all means players should speak out and work in the community with schools. If they want to support a movement like BLM that's fine but do so away from the match.
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Originally posted by Plumpton eagle
Footballers are "thick", "greedy", "Marxist", "sheep" or all of these. Despite what the FA, Sky, footballers themselves, club owners, the England manager and captain say - taking the knee before a game is being done to support a Marxist movement hell bent on violence and white subjugation. Immigrants are "gang rapists", "scroungers" and "attack poppy sellers". Black people are "racist", responsible for "knife crime". Any black person killed by the police must have deserved it because they had "violent pasts" and were "drug dealers". Even if they were unarmed, in custody and literally being choked to death by a police officer. Anyone that does not feel that whites are victims and their rights are being violated is a "pinko", "leftie", "commie", "Marxist", "liberal", "woke", "snowflake", "has the IQ of a 4 year old" and is "spoiling the forum" by daring to put forward a reasoned counter argument. Here is exactly what Roy said yesterday about players overwhelmingly wanting to continue taking the knee: "I'm very pleased they were consulted and took the choice. When questions are asked about stuff like this, players are the most important to be consulted. Obviously they feel it's still serving a purpose, and everything that can be done has got to be applauded. I applaud them for deciding on this issue, and I'm 100% behind them". Roy doesn't strike me as a Marxist, Black Power activist or left wing zealot. I suspect he has a high IQ and he knows our players well and why they are doing this. But obviously he must now be demonised by some. I get that taking a knee has a sell by date and will need to be replaced in due course. But to return to the original discussion, booing it will be seen as racist and will shame our club and any taking part. Maybe these demonisers would be more comfortable posting on a site that is more suited and compliant to their world view. You were doing so well until the last line This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You were doing so well until the last line This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction. Yeah, well it takes allsorts to make liquorice. It’d be a bit bland if everyone’s throbbing vein was in the same place.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You were doing so well until the last line This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction. Says the HR director who believes you should get a job based on what colour you are rather than what ability you have. Is it little wonder most on here aren’t particularly enamoured with your brand of politics.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Says the HR director who believes you should get a job based on what colour you are rather than what ability you have. Is it little wonder most on here aren’t particularly enamoured with your brand of politics. I don’t believe I ever said that But I am partial to red and blue And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions. Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am)
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I don’t believe I ever said that But I am partial to red and blue Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.24am) Perhaps I am being a little unfair, what you actually said is that where things are equal (which they never are), you would employ a minority over a white person. Therefore you automatically take a bias into the interview room.
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