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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Dec 20 9.14pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Are you really so thick as to not understand why being in a minority puts you in a less powerful situation than being in a majority group?

Maybe that explains why you supported Brexit. Because the small guy holds all the power eh?

Really?

If minorities are more likely to be in 'less powerful' situations...presumably because of 'oppression', then why is it that both our Chinese and Indian minorities both earn higher proportionally than the white British majority.

If what you stated was true, this wouldn't be allowed to happen.....but it isn't, it's based upon lies.

And if the majority are more fortunate then explain why working class White boys are the least likely to go to university?

Again, if what you state were true, this would never be allowed to happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 9.15pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Dec 20 9.39pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Are you really so thick as to not understand why being in a minority puts you in a less powerful situation than being in a majority group?

Maybe that explains why you supported Brexit. Because the small guy holds all the power eh?

So what? No one made people come here for work. You make it sound like we have a duty to look after other people's interests before our own.
Let me ask you a simple question. What have Black people done to warrant special treatment? When you go to a foreign country you must know that you have to work harder than the existing inhabitants.

The Indians know this. They endured casual racism and prejudice and yet are doing just fine. You could say the same of the Jews.
Why am I responsible for other people's inability to succeed? No one gave a s*** when I was skint or people called me nasty names.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Dec 2020 9.39pm)

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Dec 20 9.40pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Really?

If minorities are more likely to be in 'less powerful' situations...presumably because of 'oppression', then why is it that both our Chinese and Indian minorities both earn higher proportionally than the white British majority.

If what you stated was true, this wouldn't be allowed to happen.....but it isn't, it's based upon lies.

And if the majority are more fortunate then explain why working class White boys are the least likely to go to university?

Again, if what you state were true, this would never be allowed to happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 9.15pm)

OK, clearly you are that thick

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Dec 20 9.47pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

OK, clearly you are that thick

So you can't answer the question because you know that your position is not credible. This episode has nothing to do with sense and everything to do with politics and profit.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 18 Dec 20 9.54pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

OK, clearly you are that thick

Clearly.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 20 10.09pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That still doesn’t address any outcome. Boost awareness? OK, job done. The issue that’s been identified is that there is “systemic racism” so how is that to be addressed?

It's not the issue. The issue is the booing.

Whether it will have any effect is another debate.

Clearly the players hope it will, so why disrespect them? They may be wrong. If they are at least they have tried.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Dec 20 10.33pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's not the issue. The issue is the booing.

Whether it will have any effect is another debate.

Clearly the players hope it will, so why disrespect them? They may be wrong. If they are at least they have tried.

This sounds like a John Lennon song.
Isn’t it possible that this gesture in itself is disrespecting the fans who aren’t racist and are sick of being told they are?

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Dec 20 11.01pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This sounds like a John Lennon song.
Isn’t it possible that this gesture in itself is disrespecting the fans who aren’t racist and are sick of being told they are?

No

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Dec 20 11.06pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

No

If you have a failing it’s that you don’t recognise not everyone is as evolved and empathetic as you are.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 20 11.13pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This sounds like a John Lennon song.
Isn’t it possible that this gesture in itself is disrespecting the fans who aren’t racist and are sick of being told they are?

Of course not!

The fans aren't being told anything! Especially that they are racist. The players are making a gesture to raise awareness of discrimination. If that chimes with someone who harbours racist views sobeit. They will find that themselves.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Dec 20 11.13pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If you have a failing it’s that you don’t recognise not everyone is as evolved and empathetic as you are.

True that

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Dec 20 11.28pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course not!

The fans aren't being told anything! Especially that they are racist. The players are making a gesture to raise awareness of discrimination. If that chimes with someone who harbours racist views sobeit. They will find that themselves.

Are the fans not part of the society that enforces this discrimination with such furious vigour?

 

eritheagle Flag Erith 19 Dec 20 8.14am

The PFA asked all it's members whether the players wanted to continue with "taking the knee".
80% said yes and 20% said they didn't.

The usual stance of the leftie, liberal, WOKE, snowflakes is to stick up for the poor minority so I take it that certain people who were for it will be now changing their view and wanting it to stop.

Otherwise they'll be upsetting the feelings of the 20% minority that voted against it!

 

Plumpton eagle Flag East Sussex 19 Dec 20 9.11am

Originally posted by eritheagle

The PFA asked all it's members whether the players wanted to continue with "taking the knee".
80% said yes and 20% said they didn't.

The usual stance of the leftie, liberal, WOKE, snowflakes is to stick up for the poor minority so I take it that certain people who were for it will be now changing their view and wanting it to stop.

Otherwise they'll be upsetting the feelings of the 20% minority that voted against it!


It seems that there are some people posting on here that can only justify their position by "demonising" anyone or anything that that displeases them.

Footballers are "thick", "greedy", "Marxist", "sheep" or all of these.

Despite what the FA, Sky, footballers themselves, club owners, the England manager and captain say - taking the knee before a game is being done to support a Marxist movement hell bent on violence and white subjugation.

Immigrants are "gang rapists", "scroungers" and "attack poppy sellers".

Black people are "racist", responsible for "knife crime". Any black person killed by the police must have deserved it because they had "violent pasts" and were "drug dealers". Even if they were unarmed, in custody and literally being choked to death by a police officer.

Anyone that does not feel that whites are victims and their rights are being violated is a "pinko", "leftie", "commie", "Marxist", "liberal", "woke", "snowflake", "has the IQ of a 4 year old" and is "spoiling the forum" by daring to put forward a reasoned counter argument.

Here is exactly what Roy said yesterday about players overwhelmingly wanting to continue taking the knee:

"I'm very pleased they were consulted and took the choice.

When questions are asked about stuff like this, players are the most important to be consulted.

Obviously they feel it's still serving a purpose, and everything that can be done has got to be applauded.

I applaud them for deciding on this issue, and I'm 100% behind them".

Roy doesn't strike me as a Marxist, Black Power activist or left wing zealot. I suspect he has a high IQ and he knows our players well and why they are doing this. But obviously he must now be demonised by some.

I get that taking a knee has a sell by date and will need to be replaced in due course. But to return to the original discussion, booing it will be seen as racist and will shame our club and any taking part.

Maybe these demonisers would be more comfortable posting on a site that is more suited and compliant to their world view.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Dec 20 9.27am

Originally posted by Plumpton eagle


It seems that there are some people posting on here that can only justify their position by "demonising" anyone or anything that that displeases them.

Footballers are "thick", "greedy", "Marxist", "sheep" or all of these.

Despite what the FA, Sky, footballers themselves, club owners, the England manager and captain say - taking the knee before a game is being done to support a Marxist movement hell bent on violence and white subjugation.

Immigrants are "gang rapists", "scroungers" and "attack poppy sellers".

Black people are "racist", responsible for "knife crime". Any black person killed by the police must have deserved it because they had "violent pasts" and were "drug dealers". Even if they were unarmed, in custody and literally being choked to death by a police officer.

Anyone that does not feel that whites are victims and their rights are being violated is a "pinko", "leftie", "commie", "Marxist", "liberal", "woke", "snowflake", "has the IQ of a 4 year old" and is "spoiling the forum" by daring to put forward a reasoned counter argument.

Here is exactly what Roy said yesterday about players overwhelmingly wanting to continue taking the knee:

"I'm very pleased they were consulted and took the choice.

When questions are asked about stuff like this, players are the most important to be consulted.

Obviously they feel it's still serving a purpose, and everything that can be done has got to be applauded.

I applaud them for deciding on this issue, and I'm 100% behind them".

Roy doesn't strike me as a Marxist, Black Power activist or left wing zealot. I suspect he has a high IQ and he knows our players well and why they are doing this. But obviously he must now be demonised by some.

I get that taking a knee has a sell by date and will need to be replaced in due course. But to return to the original discussion, booing it will be seen as racist and will shame our club and any taking part.

Maybe these demonisers would be more comfortable posting on a site that is more suited and compliant to their world view.

I'm quite comfortable posting on this site when you are the owner you can set the rules.

Most of us who object to the virtue signalling are not for racism but against politics in football. By all means players should speak out and work in the community with schools. If they want to support a movement like BLM that's fine but do so away from the match.

 


One more point

Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Dec 20 9.42am

Originally posted by Plumpton eagle


It seems that there are some people posting on here that can only justify their position by "demonising" anyone or anything that that displeases them.

Footballers are "thick", "greedy", "Marxist", "sheep" or all of these.

Despite what the FA, Sky, footballers themselves, club owners, the England manager and captain say - taking the knee before a game is being done to support a Marxist movement hell bent on violence and white subjugation.

Immigrants are "gang rapists", "scroungers" and "attack poppy sellers".

Black people are "racist", responsible for "knife crime". Any black person killed by the police must have deserved it because they had "violent pasts" and were "drug dealers". Even if they were unarmed, in custody and literally being choked to death by a police officer.

Anyone that does not feel that whites are victims and their rights are being violated is a "pinko", "leftie", "commie", "Marxist", "liberal", "woke", "snowflake", "has the IQ of a 4 year old" and is "spoiling the forum" by daring to put forward a reasoned counter argument.

Here is exactly what Roy said yesterday about players overwhelmingly wanting to continue taking the knee:

"I'm very pleased they were consulted and took the choice.

When questions are asked about stuff like this, players are the most important to be consulted.

Obviously they feel it's still serving a purpose, and everything that can be done has got to be applauded.

I applaud them for deciding on this issue, and I'm 100% behind them".

Roy doesn't strike me as a Marxist, Black Power activist or left wing zealot. I suspect he has a high IQ and he knows our players well and why they are doing this. But obviously he must now be demonised by some.

I get that taking a knee has a sell by date and will need to be replaced in due course. But to return to the original discussion, booing it will be seen as racist and will shame our club and any taking part.

Maybe these demonisers would be more comfortable posting on a site that is more suited and compliant to their world view.

You were doing so well until the last line

This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 19 Dec 20 9.59am

Originally posted by Mapletree

You were doing so well until the last line

This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction.

Yeah, well it takes allsorts to make liquorice. It’d be a bit bland if everyone’s throbbing vein was in the same place.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Dec 20 10.21am

Originally posted by Mapletree

You were doing so well until the last line

This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction.

Says the HR director who believes you should get a job based on what colour you are rather than what ability you have. Is it little wonder most on here aren’t particularly enamoured with your brand of politics.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Dec 20 10.24am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Says the HR director who believes you should get a job based on what colour you are rather than what ability you have. Is it little wonder most on here aren’t particularly enamoured with your brand of politics.

I don’t believe I ever said that

But I am partial to red and blue

And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions.

Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am)

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Dec 20 10.40am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t believe I ever said that

But I am partial to red and blue

Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.24am)

Perhaps I am being a little unfair, what you actually said is that where things are equal (which they never are), you would employ a minority over a white person. Therefore you automatically take a bias into the interview room.

 

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