If you look at AWB first games for Palace I think he was very much thrown in at the deep end, unless defenders can’t be, which your post seems to suggest.
Villa didn’t seem to have a problem throwing Watkins in at the deep end

Edited by Spiderman (05 Oct 2020 8.58am)

Nope dont agree. If Roy does this with Eze, he'll ruin him. Why did he agree to signing him if he doesnt want him to flourish and express himself. Eze can offer so much more then he will be allowed to do. Its Roys job to set the team up around players like Eze. Not stifle his talent and shoe horn him into an unnatural position. I can see how this is going with Eze. Eze will end up on the bench and Roy can turn round and say he tried with him but he has so much to learn(he may) and he'll take time. Its just an excuse with Roy. Look at the players he ostracised - Meyer, camarasa players who could have added something creative centrally but lack the defensive qualities. Roy does not believe in these types of players full stop. All Qpr fans said he is not a wide midfielder.. we all knew thats where Roy would play him. To be honest the signing of Eze did not make sense to me to begin with.. he is NOT a Roy type signing. I think he went with it to appease Parish and Dougie.. and when hes inevitably on the bench he can say I tried with him. We will not see a change in this philosophy until he has gone.

Edited by MonsterMunch (05 Oct 2020 9.44am)

We lose Roy now at this stage and we will be a relegation team like no other relegation team has been seen, Roy is keeping us up you twits, we are in big big transition time.

We lose Roy now at this stage and we will be a relegation team like no other relegation team has been seen, Roy is keeping us up you twits, we are in big big transition time.

Nah.. we are not. When are never not in transition at this club. Roy could be doing more with what he has. He'll get us over the line im not saying he wont, He likely will. Doesnt mean I have to like Roy ball or have higher expectations. I seem to remember Steve P saying something similar once

What is being missed by the Roy supporters on here is that the game has moved on. Fast passing through midfield, overlapping defenders, high pressing, cynical fouls to stop the opposition. It is the way Liverpool and Man City have played for the last 4 or 5 seasons. Even Jose has realised that his ultra defensive style was out-moded but he has adapted and you can see that in some recent Spurs matches. Bielsa, Potter, Santo, Lampard, Arteta are all working on the same principles.

The modern way is so different to how we play and not every team is built on the multi squillions that some think is the only way you can play a different brand of football. Get with the new way of playing or stagnate until every team in the league overtakes you or works out how to break you down.

There are only two teams in the league that play as Palace do and the other is Burnley. Fulham/West Brom try but are not good enough, Southampton look good going forward but can't defend and Sheffield Utd are being found out this year by the look of things. There may be 3 worse teams than us fortunately but that is the only way I can see us staying up playing the football we do. We are a dinosaur in a new wave of football.

I know, what is coming, there will be the normal bleats that our players are not good enough to play any different, but I don't buy that. Our players do what they are told and Roy ultimately decides who we buy, who plays and how we play. I don't need to go into the arguments for players being left out or out of position because we know them already and they have been done to death.

You know what senior pros think of us when the highest praise you hear on tv is that Palace make it difficult for the opposition, which is short for we play a boring brand of park the bus.

What is being missed by the Roy supporters on here is that the game has moved on. Fast passing through midfield, overlapping defenders, high pressing, cynical fouls to stop the opposition. It is the way Liverpool and Man City have played for the last 4 or 5 seasons. Even Jose has realised that his ultra defensive style was out-moded but he has adapted and you can see that in some recent Spurs matches. Bielsa, Potter, Santo, Lampard, Arteta are all working on the same principles.

The modern way is so different to how we play and not every team is built on the multi squillions that some think is the only way you can play a different brand of football. Get with the new way of playing or stagnate until every team in the league overtakes you or works out how to break you down.

There are only two teams in the league that play as Palace do and the other is Burnley. Fulham/West Brom try but are not good enough, Southampton look good going forward but can't defend and Sheffield Utd are being found out this year by the look of things. There may be 3 worse teams than us fortunately but that is the only way I can see us staying up playing the football we do. We are a dinosaur in a new wave of football.

I know, what is coming, there will be the normal bleats that our players are not good enough to play any different, but I don't buy that. Our players do what they are told and Roy ultimately decides who we buy, who plays and how we play. I don't need to go into the arguments for players being left out or out of position because we know them already and they have been done to death.

You know what senior pros think of us when the highest praise you hear on tv is that Palace make it difficult for the opposition, which is short for we play a boring brand of park the bus.