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 Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jul 24 1.05am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, this country and theirs has been traitored. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2024 11.50pm) I think there’s every bit of evidence to support this statement. We see it on here how easily influenced some are to accept the reality of little girls being murdered on the street as collateral damage for subscription to beliefs which they have been indoctrinated into, whilst completely unaware of this as a fact. It’s also very understandable for me how many individuals , whilst perhaps aware of what is happening, can feel powerless as individuals. This country has been brainwashed into accepting horrific consequences as a norm. The unimaginable has become reality and the unacceptable has been accepted. The left wing zeitgeist is the Oskar Schindler delusion in full effect. I often wonder what role the military hierarchy plays in all this? Have they been castrated too or are they equally to blame? I genuinely wouldn’t know as I never hear anything from that cohort. You’d like to think at least one would come out and say ‘We’re not going to stand for this/do something about it”. I thought that was their primary purpose, to protect this nation? I’ve not heard or seen that though.
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cryrst  The garden of England 30 Jul 24 1.10am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I think there’s every bit of evidence to support this statement. We see it on here how easily influenced some are to accept the reality of little girls being murdered on the street as collateral damage for subscription to beliefs which they have been indoctrinated into, whilst completely unaware of this as a fact. It’s also very understandable for me how many individuals , whilst perhaps aware of what is happening, can feel powerless as individuals. This country has been brainwashed into accepting horrific consequences as a norm. The unimaginable has become reality and the unacceptable has been accepted. The left wing zeitgeist is the Oskar Schindler delusion in full effect. I often wonder what role the military hierarchy plays in all this? Have they been castrated too or are they equally to blame? I genuinely wouldn’t know as I never hear anything from that cohort. You’d like to think at least one would come out and say ‘We’re not going to stand for this/do something about it”. I thought that was their primary purpose, to protect this nation? I’ve not heard or seen that though. All protecting their pensions as getting cancelled doesn’t !
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jul 24 1.17am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
All protecting their pensions as getting cancelled doesn’t ! I’m not going to say that I believe this to be the case however I can see the possibility in that suggestion. If it were true, would that absolve anyone from the label ‘traitor’? I’d suggest not.
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Stirlingsays  30 Jul 24 1.25am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I think there’s every bit of evidence to support this statement. We see it on here how easily influenced some are to accept the reality of little girls being murdered on the street as collateral damage for subscription to beliefs which they have been indoctrinated into, whilst completely unaware of this as a fact. It’s also very understandable for me how many individuals , whilst perhaps aware of what is happening, can feel powerless as individuals. This country has been brainwashed into accepting horrific consequences as a norm. The unimaginable has become reality and the unacceptable has been accepted. The left wing zeitgeist is the Oskar Schindler delusion in full effect. I often wonder what role the military hierarchy plays in all this? Have they been castrated too or are they equally to blame? I genuinely wouldn’t know as I never hear anything from that cohort. You’d like to think at least one would come out and say ‘We’re not going to stand for this/do something about it”. I thought that was their primary purpose, to protect this nation? I’ve not heard or seen that though. One of the tenets of neo/socially liberal regimes is the filtering out of nationalism from all institutions. So while the military is obviously where the most nationalistic people would naturally be found government ensures that it filters its leadership. It's exactly the same process that Cameron used on the Tory party to turn it centralist and Starmer used on Labour to turn it back into his version of Blairism. So no, you won't find any top leaders in the military who would come out and say that....if they did they would be dismissed by whoever is leading the current Uniparty. I know that France's military is a bit more edgy but really it's all talk and no burgers. If these murdered girls were black or some other 'protected' minority you'd have riots, burning businesses, 'revenge' attacks and hell to pay for. White liberals would be crying and kneeling, going on marches and calling non liberals racists (no change really). The self hating white elite would probably push for another parent to be placed in the Commons. As it is, because these are only white girls the reaction will be completely different...All along the tried and deliberately rolled out 'imagine' reaction, all to push the hippy response.....because they don't care about you or your children and haven't since Powell's generation. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2024 1.30am)
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jul 24 1.32am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
One of the tenets of neo/socially liberal regimes is the filtering out of nationalism from all institutions. So while the military is obviously where the most nationalistic people would naturally be found government ensures that it filters its leadership. It's exactly the same process that Cameron used on the Tory party to turn it centralist and Starmer used on Labour to turn it back into his version of Blairism. So no, you won't find any top leaders in the military who would come out and say that....if they did they would be dismissed by whoever is leading the current Uniparty. I know that France's military is a bit more edgy but really it's all talk and no burgers. If these murdered girls were black or some other minority you'd have riots, burning businesses, 'revenge' attacks and hell to pay for. White liberals would be crying and kneeling, going on marches and calling non liberals racists (no change really). The self hating white elite would probably push for another parent to be placed in the Commons. As it is, because these are only white girls the reaction will be completely different...All along the tried and deliberately rolled out 'imagine' reaction, all to push the hippy response.....because they don't care about you or your children and haven't since Powell's generation. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2024 1.29am) Genuine statement here Stirling - I’m not quite sure where ‘self-hating’ comes from or what that actually refers to? My assumption, without any further speculation, is that they must be ‘self-serving’. As to what service it does them, I again do not know beyond uninformed speculation.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Jul 24 1.52am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Genuine statement here Stirling - I’m not quite sure where ‘self-hating’ comes from or what that actually refers to? My assumption, without any further speculation, is that they must be ‘self-serving’. As to what service it does them, I again do not know beyond uninformed speculation. Whole books can be written on that but the self hating stuff is a particular attribute advanced since WW2, Orwell was referring to it within socialism itself back then when it even pre-existed the wars. It started in communism and eventually spread throughout the left.....We could get into origins and talk about hyper empathy, and the anti masculinity complex that identifies a lot (not all) of the left but it's a long walk into the weeds. The self serving aspects is there wherever someone owes their living to the success of the current establishment. What goes on in individual's heads is impossible to know but essentially I believe in the biblical saying of 'by their fruits you will know them'....in other words the 'just following orders' element doesn't really cut it. Then again, the 'go along to get along' types are essentially the main number of any society. They will only speak out on the safe topics of their day. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2024 1.56am)
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jul 24 2.06am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Whole books can be written on that but the self hating stuff is a particular attribute advanced since WW2, Orwell was referring to it within socialism itself back then when it even pre-existed the wars. It started in communism and eventually spread throughout the left.....We could get into origins and talk about hyper empathy, and the anti masculinity complex that identifies a lot (not all) of the left but it's a long walk into the weeds. The self serving aspects is there wherever someone owes their living to the success of the current establishment. What goes on in individual's heads is impossible to know but essentially I believe in the biblical saying of 'by their fruits you will know them'....in other words the 'just following orders' element doesn't really cut it. Then again, the 'go along to get along' types are essentially the main number of any society. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2024 1.55am) Grazi, small bit of insight for me but I’ll have to look further into that to form any real opinion on it!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 24 8.02am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Your suspicion like your interpretation is wrong. Never mind - keep doubling down. God loves a trier. There are opinions, which we both have, and there are facts which either of us can know which the other doesn’t. Knowing what your own interpretation of anything is falls into the latter category.
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| MFW94 Sutton 30 Jul 24 8.14am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
So who is this fellow and why all the secrecy? No name? ... that could be the giveaway to his heritage. Parents? Not classified as a terror incident but he couldn't have picked a softer target. Just pure evil and in my view, this guy should not still be breathing. Hes under 18 so I doubt they'll release his name anytime soon
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Teddy Eagle  30 Jul 24 8.18am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are opinions, which we both have, and there are facts which either of us can know which the other doesn’t. Knowing what your own interpretation of anything is falls into the latter category. Only one person is conflating any meaning from the original post and any amount of obfuscation won't change that.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 24 8.18am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
So who is this fellow and why all the secrecy? No name? ... that could be the giveaway to his heritage. Parents? Not classified as a terror incident but he couldn't have picked a softer target. Just pure evil and in my view, this guy should not still be breathing. We won’t know that until the police do reveal his identity but there must be a reason. Are names released before charges are made, or before legal representation has been appointed? I am only guessing but given the horrendous circumstances the police could possibly be acting extremely cautiously in order to avoid any mistakes on their behalf. There is already a lot of anger which is founded on speculation. They would not want to make that worse and might want to pause to consider how best to handle things.
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| MFW94 Sutton 30 Jul 24 8.22am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We won’t know that until the police do reveal his identity but there must be a reason. Are names released before charges are made, or before legal representation has been appointed? I am only guessing but given the horrendous circumstances the police could possibly be acting extremely cautiously in order to avoid any mistakes on their behalf. There is already a lot of anger which is founded on speculation. They would not want to make that worse and might want to pause to consider how best to handle things. I think the law is anyone under 18 isnt named - unless the home sec or someone waives the anonymity due to the seriousness of the crime - happy to be proved be wrong though if anyone knows the actual law/rule However doing something so callous, regardless of religion/race or whatever, then their name should be out there.
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| MFW94 Sutton 30 Jul 24 8.24am |
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Originally posted by MFW94
I think the law is anyone under 18 isnt named - unless the home sec or someone waives the anonymity due to the seriousness of the crime - happy to be proved be wrong though if anyone knows the actual law/rule However doing something so callous, regardless of religion/race or whatever, then their name should be out there. to further this it is baffling that Victims under 18 will be named but the perpetrator cant be
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 24 8.29am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Only one person is conflating any meaning from the original post and any amount of obfuscation won't change that. Two people are conflating different meanings. That one might be alone here is merely more confirmation of the unique little bubble that exists here. Who knows how others elsewhere would react? That would depend on several things. You have your opinion. I have mine. Dismissing one as a mistake is just another opinion.
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| Teddy Eagle 30 Jul 24 8.42am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Two people are conflating different meanings. That one might be alone here is merely more confirmation of the unique little bubble that exists here. Who knows how others elsewhere would react? That would depend on several things. You have your opinion. I have mine. Dismissing one as a mistake is just another opinion. It's not opinions. It's about facts. That you've chosen to impute meaning which isn't there doesn't alter anything.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 24 8.44am |
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Originally posted by MFW94
I think the law is anyone under 18 isnt named - unless the home sec or someone waives the anonymity due to the seriousness of the crime - happy to be proved be wrong though if anyone knows the actual law/rule However doing something so callous, regardless of religion/race or whatever, then their name should be out there. Why? How would it help the victims, or anyone else? It could enable their family to be traced and for completely innocent people to be harassed or worse. This event is already terrible and the last thing the police will want to do is create a situation where more bad things happen because of the understandable anger, or any desire for revenge.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 24 8.45am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It's not opinions. It's about facts. That you've chosen to impute meaning which isn't there doesn't alter anything. Well there you go! That’s your opinion. It isn’t mine.
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