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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 10.42pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If we cannot score and a budget of £10 mil or 50 pence do you think we’ll survive?

You are supposing that we will sign better players than we have which will be difficult if we need the AWB money to pay the bills.

Which way do you want it?

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 10.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are supposing that we will sign better players than we have which will be difficult if we need the AWB money to pay the bills.

Which way do you want it?

Well if we’re losing £35 mil per year then some bills need paying.

This discussion could go on until August.

We haven’t sold many in 7 seasons by we’ve spent shed loads. You prefer to ignore that. Fair enough. I’m tempted to stay at home like you, but because Roy’s football is boring, not because I think we’ll be relegated. Good night.

 


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lefty27 Flag ipswich 28 Jun 19 11.25pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Well if we’re losing £35 mil per year then some bills need paying.

This discussion could go on until August.

We haven’t sold many in 7 seasons by we’ve spent shed loads. You prefer to ignore that. Fair enough. I’m tempted to stay at home like you, but because Roy’s football is boring, not because I think we’ll be relegated. Good night.

We aren’t losing 35 million per year. We made a profit before player trading. We made a loss in 17/18 because we bought and didn’t sell and had changes in manager. I really think the financial state of the club is being blown out of all proportion.

 

ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Jun 19 11.26pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Well if we’re losing £35 mil per year then some bills need paying.

This discussion could go on until August.

We haven’t sold many in 7 seasons by we’ve spent shed loads. You prefer to ignore that. Fair enough. I’m tempted to stay at home like you, but because Roy’s football is boring, not because I think we’ll be relegated. Good night.

Hodgsonball - AWB / Wilf = relegation.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 11.59pm

Originally posted by lefty27

We aren’t losing 35 million per year. We made a profit before player trading. We made a loss in 17/18 because we bought and didn’t sell and had changes in manager. I really think the financial state of the club is being blown out of all proportion.

The manager compensation costs are a few million tops, and the pills and Allardyce compensation packages absorb Pardew and FDB’s.

You’ve just said because we bought and didn’t sell, which means we have to sell to have a budget then, and seeing as our net spend last season was kouyate at £10 mil I think it backs that up.

I’v been a harsh critic of Parish but believing that we can continue with the player costs we have, including £30 mil players and players on £100-130k with the revenue we have and and an attendance revenue in the relegation zone I think some need to get real.

The errors have been made in previous windows and with poor scouting and thinking we didn’t need cover and then inevitably spend more anyway in January.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Jun 2019 12.06am)

 


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TheExpatEagle Flag 29 Jun 19 12.55am

It's a bad deal all around.

Parish wanted £60m. We got £45m + £5m
Parish wanted 25% Wilf clause dropped. They said no.
We didn't need to sell, player said he want to go so we sold.

AWB was on £10k is now on £80k but most players signed for over $40m are on £200k. Walker at Man City, Benteke, Sakho even Cabaye was on more when we got him for £10m.

AWB is a pretty poor wage deal considering.

Man United are the winners. Parish backed down, AWB accepted less than he deserved. That's my summary.

 

Wilbraham413 Flag 29 Jun 19 1.06am

Happy for AWB, sad for us.

How many new Sorloths can we buy for £50M?

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Jun 19 1.10am

Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

It's a bad deal all around.

Parish wanted £60m. We got £45m + £5m
Parish wanted 25% Wilf clause dropped. They said no.
We didn't need to sell, player said he want to go so we sold.

AWB was on £10k is now on £80k but most players signed for over m are on £200k. Walker at Man City, Benteke, Sakho even Cabaye was on more when we got him for £10m.

AWB is a pretty poor wage deal considering.

Man United are the winners. Parish backed down, AWB accepted less than he deserved. That's my summary.

That's one of the major bones of contention on this thread.

I think the club needed to generate funds.

AWB was fairly passive in all this really. I got the impression that he was quite happy to do another year with Palace ( he was reported as saying as much ) until it looked as if Palace were willing to sell. Then he said he was in favour of moving and negotiations got serious at that point.

As for his wages, who cares what he will earn - not our business. But if he does well I expect him to get a pay rise anyway. offered improved terms

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Jun 19 1.31am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Supporters like you are enabling the board to do what they want.

Many of our fans have no ambition and that allows this club to act accordingly.

Imagine if some other clubs sold their two best players in one season. There would be mayhem.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Jun 2019 7.44pm)

And what do you propose to do to stop the board doing what they want then ? My guess is sweet F.A. You did mention giving up your season ticket - good, there's a waiting list for them so you have the chance to make someone happy.

You talk about a lack of ambition - ok, would you care to share what you think Palace should be aiming for and how you think they can achieve it ?


Edited by NEILLO (29 Jun 2019 1.32am)

 


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Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 29 Jun 19 4.54am

Time will tell and if we are bottom 3 at Christmas after selling AWB and Wilf, who’s going to say “ you know what this wasn’t such a great move”

Selling those 2 isn’t going to make us a better side for sure, and let’s not forget how s*** our home form has been for 3 seasons now.

Away from home Wilf was our get out of jail free card and we won’t have that luxury anymore.

We are nailed on to get relegated....

 

Chubskip Flag 29 Jun 19 6.37am

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Edited by Chubskip (29 Jun 2019 6.48am)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jun 19 7.08am

I don't think that many of us will deny that being a Palace supporter is currently a bit depressing at the moment.

One of our two best players has left and the other one wants to.

Who wants to come to Palace who is going to improve the team?

I'm waiting for some news to cheer me up.

 


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Man City Flag Manchester 29 Jun 19 7.53am

The BBC report that the deal is £50m with a sell-on fee and yet neither club has announced it which appears strange to me.

 

Alex1991 Flag Ashford 29 Jun 19 8.14am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't think that many of us will deny that being a Palace supporter is currently a bit depressing at the moment.

One of our two best players has left and the other one wants to.

Who wants to come to Palace who is going to improve the team?

I'm waiting for some news to cheer me up.

I know Punch has gone but Jairo might stay. There is still hope.

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 29 Jun 19 8.35am

Next season is all now about survival, if we keep Wilf and all the rest of the players and don't sign anyone except a couple of loans we will be mid table, sell him we will struggle to survive, right back and striker loaned is what is needed.

This time this year is a different situation, Sell Wilf then, sell Sakho and Benteke off the books no high earners left and plenty of options and money to rebuild.

 


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Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 29 Jun 19 8.53am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Next season is all now about survival, if we keep Wilf and all the rest of the players and don't sign anyone except a couple of loans we will be mid table, sell him we will struggle to survive, right back and striker loaned is what is needed.

This time this year is a different situation, Sell Wilf then, sell Sakho and Benteke off the books no high earners left and plenty of options and money to rebuild.

Tekkers ain’t going anywhere he is running down his contract which has 1 year to run, then he goes on a free. The team was struggling up until January, we already had a depleted squad. Selling more players will put us in a worse position.

I think the last good transfer window was when we signed Milo and PVA...

 

brownsugar Flag 29 Jun 19 9.51am

TheExpatEagle

It's a bad deal all around.Parish wanted £60m. We got £45m + £5m
Parish wanted 25% Wilf clause dropped. They said no.
We didn't need to sell, player said he want to go so we sold.AWB was on £10k is now on £80k but most players signed for over m are on £200k. Walker at Man City, Benteke, Sakho even Cabaye was on more when we got him for £10m.AWB is a pretty poor wage deal considering.Man United are the winners. Parish backed down, AWB accepted less than he deserved. That's my summary.

AND this time next year he will be worth £75m. A big mistake not to keep him for another year.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Jun 19 10.03am

Originally posted by brownsugar

It's a bad deal all around.Parish wanted £60m. We got £45m + £5m
Parish wanted 25% Wilf clause dropped. They said no.
We didn't need to sell,

It's an excellent deal for us and I don't know where you get the idea from that we didn't need to sell. Have you seen the club's financial accounts?

Our team definitely needed strengthening and we appeared to be brassic so now we can strengthen and end up with a better all round team.

Whether we will actually spend the money wisely is another question though

 

midlandspalace Flag kidderminster 29 Jun 19 10.14am

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49 clubs have been in the Premier league since it started. There are currently 20 places in the league. The "top 6" are untouchable in terms of revenue and spending power, unless another club gets taken over by a sovereign wealth fund (Norway anyone?) to use as publicity without any concern about losses.

Only 19 teams on that list have more seasons than us, and that includes 7 clubs who are now not in the Premier League. Only 6 teams on that list have never been relegated. This is the first spell we have had in the Premier League without getting relegated after one season.

There are a number of posters here who need to get a sense of perspective. The whole tenor of this board has changed since we have had a long spell in the top division. We have no divine right to be here, and all 14 teams outside the top six are in danger of being relegated at any time.

Yes I know some here are bored with the "I've watched Palace for 50+ years in all divisions" group, but at least we are supporters who watch the club wherever they are in the league. There is a generation of fans who have grown up knowing nothing but the Premier League, grown up watching wall to wall football on tv, and think that life only exists in the Premier League.

Will I disappointed if we get relegated? of course I will. Will i still support Palace? of course I will.

Look again at that list of 49 clubs, and enjoy what we have whilst we have it. We are more successful now than we have ever been. We have some of the best players we have ever had. The moaning that goes on here is just unbelievable.

Rant over, feel free to throw things.

Edited by midlandspalace (29 Jun 2019 10.21am)

 

Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 29 Jun 19 10.15am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's an excellent deal for us and I don't know where you get the idea from that we didn't need to sell. Have you seen the club's financial accounts?

Our team definitely needed strengthening and we appeared to be brassic so now we can strengthen and end up with a better all round team.

Whether we will actually spend the money wisely is another question though

I wonder how Marco Gabbiadini is these days?

 

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