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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Aug 21 12.23am

The BBC are all about how terrible women's rights will be in Afghanistan, yeah I agree.

However, in the actual west a woman can't even say that a man in a dress shouldn't enter a women's toilet.

It starts with shouting about women's rights, which all reasonable people understand.....the problem is it ends with children changing gender at four without their parents agreeing.....as the SNP are now putting forward.


Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2021 12.48am)

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Aug 21 7.05am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The BBC are all about how terrible women's rights will be in Afghanistan, yeah I agree.

However, in the actual west a woman can't even say that a man in a dress shouldn't enter a women's toilet.

It starts with shouting about women's rights, which all reasonable people understand.....the problem is it ends with children changing gender at four without their parents agreeing.....as the SNP are now putting forward.


Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2021 12.48am)

The irony is that women's rights in Afghanistan and all Muslim countries are determined by the qoran and Islam. Such a peaceful thing we are told. Unless your a woman of course but don't let the facts blur over a good headline.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Aug 21 8.17am

The sisters are up in arms over the fate of women in Afghanistan and demand something must be done.

Well the only something that would work would be to put male troops on the ground unless of course the metropolitan elite women would like to volunteer?

No? Didn't think so, their happy to let working class men do the killing and dying in foreign countries.

As the man said you'll never see a feminist in a divorce court.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Aug 2021 8.18am)

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 06 Sep 21 8.56pm

Originally posted by Badger11

As the man said you'll never see a feminist in a divorce court.

....no , but you might see one captaining the Bridge of a spaceship ?

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nobody Flag sussex 07 Sep 21 9.57am

Fran Unsworth is leaving her post at BBC News.

The commander in chief of the Woke brigade.Lets hope
more balanced reporting will now follow.

But don't hold your breath

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 11.20am

Originally posted by nobody

Fran Unsworth is leaving her post at BBC News.

The commander in chief of the Woke brigade.Lets hope
more balanced reporting will now follow.

But don't hold your breath

There is, and always has been, the perception of an unbalanced approach by the BBC from both the left and the right. Unsurprisingly, each believes it favours the other. With the right now having the loudest mouthpieces we just hear more from them.

The BBC must, and do, ignore this and do their best to meet the obligations placed on them. Being free of political and commercial pressures is a vital asset, much respected and trusted around the world. We tamper with that at our peril and the current government's threats are a danger which need to be resisted.

 


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jeeagles Flag 07 Sep 21 1.10pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is, and always has been, the perception of an unbalanced approach by the BBC from both the left and the right. Unsurprisingly, each believes it favours the other. With the right now having the loudest mouthpieces we just hear more from them.

The BBC must, and do, ignore this and do their best to meet the obligations placed on them. Being free of political and commercial pressures is a vital asset, much respected and trusted around the world. We tamper with that at our peril and the current government's threats are a danger which need to be resisted.

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Was listening to this this morning.
The BBC were investigating racist tweets after the Euro's and tracked down a troll in Saudia Arabia.

The press in general have really glossed over how much of this abuse is coming from abroad giving the impression that its the English Disease again.

More that half of the 396 posts reported were from abroad. Many from the middle east, I wouldnt be surprised if quite a few were from Italy.

Whilst there's no room for racism, I found the reporting has been a bit disingenuous about the source of the majority of the abuse.

Britain gets a bad rep from a lot of people claim that we are a institutional racist country when we are not. We are far more progressive than most countries.

I think their would be less objection to them, and taking the knee, if they were clearer that a lot of the abuse is coming from abroad, and the gesture is an international message to share British values of equality, and not just aimed at football fans, who are vilified at any given opportunity by the media.

The press couldn't wait to stick the knife in after the Euro's.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 3.13pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

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Was listening to this this morning.
The BBC were investigating racist tweets after the Euro's and tracked down a troll in Saudia Arabia.

The press in general have really glossed over how much of this abuse is coming from abroad giving the impression that its the English Disease again.

More that half of the 396 posts reported were from abroad. Many from the middle east, I wouldnt be surprised if quite a few were from Italy.

Whilst there's no room for racism, I found the reporting has been a bit disingenuous about the source of the majority of the abuse.

Britain gets a bad rep from a lot of people claim that we are a institutional racist country when we are not. We are far more progressive than most countries.

I think their would be less objection to them, and taking the knee, if they were clearer that a lot of the abuse is coming from abroad, and the gesture is an international message to share British values of equality, and not just aimed at football fans, who are vilified at any given opportunity by the media.

The press couldn't wait to stick the knife in after the Euro's.

I certainly agree that the press always sensationalise this kind of issue. It helps sell newspapers and online clicks.

I also agree that the social media companies need to act more decisively in removing offensive posts and banning those who post them.

There are those, including some who post here, who would argue the opposite and want there to be no moderation at all as to do so is, in their eyes, an infringement of the freedom of speech.

Just imagine the result of that!

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Sep 21 3.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I certainly agree that the press always sensationalise this kind of issue. It helps sell newspapers and online clicks.

I also agree that the social media companies need to act more decisively in removing offensive posts and banning those who post them.

There are those, including some who post here, who would argue the opposite and want there to be no moderation at all as to do so is, in their eyes, an infringement of the freedom of speech.

Just imagine the result of that!

Another daft statement.

There is no justification for the censorship of political opinions unless they incite violence. There are always grey areas, of course, but the kind of blatant suppression of legitimate concerns and promotion of a one sided agenda is unacceptable.
We have seen how violence from one demographic is tolerated while those opposing it are vilified and persecuted.

You are oblivious to all of this, of course.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Sep 2021 3.40pm)

 

nobody Flag sussex 07 Sep 21 4.31pm

Thank you WE for pointing out how silly I am for thinking that the BBC News was anything but a bastion of unbiased reporting.

I am mostly a reader on these boards and it's obvious that your superior 'knowledge' is to be respected.

But I must ask you who died and passed the baton of the Oracle to you ?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 5.17pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Another daft statement.

There is no justification for the censorship of political opinions unless they incite violence. There are always grey areas, of course, but the kind of blatant suppression of legitimate concerns and promotion of a one sided agenda is unacceptable.
We have seen how violence from one demographic is tolerated while those opposing it are vilified and persecuted.

You are oblivious to all of this, of course.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Sep 2021 3.40pm)

There is no censorship of political opinions, whether they incite violence, or not. There are standards and rules applied by the owners of some social media businesses. Which is their absolute right.

No-one has a right to plaster their political messaging on your walls. Only on their own, or somewhere which offers unrestricted access.

Only illegal acts are restricted by law. So when alternative platforms exist, every opinion has an outlet.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Sep 21 5.24pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is no censorship of political opinions, whether they incite violence, or not. There are standards and rules applied by the owners of some social media businesses. Which is their absolute right.

No-one has a right to plaster their political messaging on your walls. Only on their own, or somewhere which offers unrestricted access.

Only illegal acts are restricted by law.
So when alternative platforms exist, every opinion has an outlet.

do the BBC pontificate and worship the Lefty vandal Banksy ?

How would the BBC respond if a right-winger did graffity art ?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Sep 21 5.27pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is no censorship of political opinions, whether they incite violence, or not. There are standards and rules applied by the owners of some social media businesses. Which is their absolute right.

No-one has a right to plaster their political messaging on your walls. Only on their own, or somewhere which offers unrestricted access.

Only illegal acts are restricted by law. So when alternative platforms exist, every opinion has an outlet.

That does not make it right or balanced.

If you seriously claim that media outlets don't tell their target audience what they want to hear and often try to tell them how to think, then you are utterly bereft of any level of insight.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 5.28pm

Originally posted by nobody

Thank you WE for pointing out how silly I am for thinking that the BBC News was anything but a bastion of unbiased reporting.

I am mostly a reader on these boards and it's obvious that your superior 'knowledge' is to be respected.

But I must ask you who died and passed the baton of the Oracle to you ?

I didn't pass any comment on you. I don't know you. My comment was about the BBC and how both the left, and the right, think it is biased towards the other. The BBC does its best to meet its obligations to report things objectively and fairly, and to not respond to pressure from anyone.

That so many on the right get so wound up about it indicates it is doing a good job, given the political environment it currently faces.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 21 5.42pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That does not make it right or balanced.

If you seriously claim that media outlets don't tell their target audience what they want to hear and often try to tell them how to think, then you are utterly bereft of any level of insight.

I didn't pass any comment on whether it is balanced.

It's the right of private media businesses, of all kinds, to decide for themselves how to respond to their target consumers. Ultimately, their purpose is, or ought to be, making money for their owners. Although Rupert Murdoch, Viscount Rothermere and Fred Barclay seem to have other ideas.

Unless you want to restrict everyone, with control resting in Whitehall, then you cannot restrict anyone.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Sep 21 5.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn't pass any comment on whether it is balanced.

It's the right of private media businesses, of all kinds, to decide for themselves how to respond to their target consumers. Ultimately, their purpose is, or ought to be, making money for their owners. Although Rupert Murdoch, Viscount Rothermere and Fred Barclay seem to have other ideas.

Unless you want to restrict everyone, with control resting in Whitehall, then you cannot restrict anyone.

You are swerving in a very transparent and rather embarrassing way.

Their 'right' is not the issue.

 

nobody Flag sussex 07 Sep 21 5.52pm

But the BBC is publicly funded and as such is expected to uphold standards of balance and unbiased reporting
which on many occasions recently it has not.

Privately funded outlets can report virtually anything they like eg Daily Mirror or Daily Express

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Sep 21 10.43pm

BBC DG Tim Davies says they hire across the political spectrum when defending the appointment of a Remainer BLM supporter to a senior position in the news division.

Which spectrum is that Tim? From the far left to the centre left?

Edited by Badger11 (21 Sep 2021 10.44pm)

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 22 Sep 21 1.29am

Spot on

Originally posted by Badger11

BBC DG Tim Davies says they hire across the political spectrum when defending the appointment of a Remainer BLM supporter to a senior position in the news division.

Which spectrum is that Tim? From the far left to the centre left?

Edited by Badger11 (21 Sep 2021 10.44pm)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Sep 21 7.32am

He actually went on to say that he didn't know of any Brexit supporters at the BBC because they don't discuss that.

You can't have it both ways Tim one moment you are saying the BBC hires across the political spectrum the next you are saying you have no idea what people's views are, which is it?

 


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