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Eaglecoops CR3 19 Dec 20 10.42am
Originally posted by Mapletree I don’t believe I ever said that But I am partial to red and blue And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions. Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am) You don’t expect people to just ignore your sweeping generalisations do you? Is it ok to post what you do as a bastion of employment?

Eaglecoops

CR3 19 Dec 20 10.42am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t believe I ever said that

But I am partial to red and blue

And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions.

Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am)

You don’t expect people to just ignore your sweeping generalisations do you? Is it ok to post what you do as a bastion of employment?

Stirlingsays 19 Dec 20 11.41am
Originally posted by Mapletree I don’t believe I ever said that But I am partial to red and blue And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions. Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am) So are you saying that racial mix shouldn't play a part in who is employed but only someone's meritocratic ability to do the job? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Dec 20 11.41am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t believe I ever said that

But I am partial to red and blue

And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions.

Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am)

So are you saying that racial mix shouldn't play a part in who is employed but only someone's meritocratic ability to do the job?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 19 Dec 20 11.48am
Originally posted by Mapletree You were doing so well until the last line This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction. Don't be so hard on yourself. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Dec 20 11.48am

Originally posted by Mapletree

You were doing so well until the last line

This is THE site for people with a vague connection to Palace, a huge throbbing vein in their forehead and pent up bitterness, fear and hatred. Natural followers of conspiracy theories and natural haters of anything ‘other’. Posts that rock their world view will be met with a ferociousness only matched by a blinding propensity to inaction.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mapletree Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.06pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays So are you saying that racial mix shouldn't play a part in who is employed but only someone's meritocratic ability to do the job? No. I never said that. Carry on inventing nonsense

Mapletree

Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.06pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So are you saying that racial mix shouldn't play a part in who is employed but only someone's meritocratic ability to do the job?

No. I never said that. Carry on inventing nonsense

BlueJay UK 19 Dec 20 1.14pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Perhaps I am being a little unfair, what you actually said is that where things are equal (which they never are), you would employ a minority over a white person. Therefore you automatically take a bias into the interview room. From what I've seen with this coming up several times it was actually Dan that said this. It's possible you might be misattributing.. Edited by BlueJay (19 Dec 2020 1.18pm)

BlueJay

UK 19 Dec 20 1.14pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Perhaps I am being a little unfair, what you actually said is that where things are equal (which they never are), you would employ a minority over a white person. Therefore you automatically take a bias into the interview room.

From what I've seen with this coming up several times it was actually Dan that said this. It's possible you might be misattributing..

Edited by BlueJay (19 Dec 2020 1.18pm)

Mapletree Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.24pm
Originally posted by BlueJay From what I've seen with this coming up several times it was actually Dan that said this. It's possible you might be misattributing.. Edited by BlueJay (19 Dec 2020 1.18pm) If people wish to debate the point they should return to the original post I made. Otherwise they are simply yapping dogs.

Mapletree

Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.24pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

From what I've seen with this coming up several times it was actually Dan that said this. It's possible you might be misattributing..

Edited by BlueJay (19 Dec 2020 1.18pm)

If people wish to debate the point they should return to the original post I made.

Otherwise they are simply yapping dogs.

Stirlingsays 19 Dec 20 1.31pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No. I never said that. Carry on inventing nonsense What have I invented? I asked a question dimmy. So you disagree with DanH on employment at least. Fair enough. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Dec 20 1.31pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

No. I never said that. Carry on inventing nonsense

What have I invented? I asked a question dimmy.

So you disagree with DanH on employment at least.

Fair enough.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mapletree Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.36pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What have I invented? I asked a question dimmy. So you disagree with DanH on employment at least. Fair enough. No, you made an assertion. Dimmy.

Mapletree

Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.36pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What have I invented? I asked a question dimmy.

So you disagree with DanH on employment at least.

Fair enough.

No, you made an assertion. Dimmy.

Stirlingsays 19 Dec 20 1.41pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No, you made an assertion. Dimmy. A question mark at the end of a sentence is...well a question. I enabled you to agree or disagree with the assertion. I did not assume your answer. Dimmy. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Dec 20 1.41pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

No, you made an assertion. Dimmy.

A question mark at the end of a sentence is...well a question. I enabled you to agree or disagree with the assertion.

I did not assume your answer.

Dimmy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mapletree Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays A question mark at the end of a sentence is...well a question. I enabled you to agree or disagree with the assertion. I did not assume your answer. Dimmy. No, an assertion with a question mark is simply poor writing. Dimmy

Mapletree

Croydon 19 Dec 20 1.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A question mark at the end of a sentence is...well a question. I enabled you to agree or disagree with the assertion.

I did not assume your answer.

Dimmy.

No, an assertion with a question mark is simply poor writing. Dimmy

Stirlingsays 19 Dec 20 1.53pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No, an assertion with a question mark is simply poor writing. Dimmy I seriously think you're losing it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Dec 20 1.53pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

No, an assertion with a question mark is simply poor writing. Dimmy

I seriously think you're losing it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 19 Dec 20 2.01pm
Originally posted by BlueJay From what I've seen with this coming up several times it was actually Dan that said this. It's possible you might be misattributing.. Edited by BlueJay (19 Dec 2020 1.18pm) It’s also not what I said. Another thing that’s been twisted out of all sense of reality like so many things on here.

DanH

SW2 19 Dec 20 2.01pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

From what I've seen with this coming up several times it was actually Dan that said this. It's possible you might be misattributing..

Edited by BlueJay (19 Dec 2020 1.18pm)

It’s also not what I said. Another thing that’s been twisted out of all sense of reality like so many things on here.

Stirlingsays 19 Dec 20 2.20pm
Originally posted by DanH It’s also not what I said. Another thing that’s been twisted out of all sense of reality like so many things on here. Oh the irony of a leftist complaining that their words have been twisted. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Dec 20 2.20pm

Originally posted by DanH

It’s also not what I said. Another thing that’s been twisted out of all sense of reality like so many things on here.

Oh the irony of a leftist complaining that their words have been twisted.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 19 Dec 20 2.28pm
The regularly contributing left on Hol....with a few honourable exceptions are now either trolls sniping with child like comments (which I kind of have no problem with) or bare faced liars....dancing around on pins as if no one can notice. (which I do have an issue with) It gets a bit pointless once you realise you are dealing with people who aren't willing to be honest and straight forward and unfortunately that's what we have now. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2020 2.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 Dec 20 2.28pm

The regularly contributing left on Hol....with a few honourable exceptions are now either trolls sniping with child like comments (which I kind of have no problem with) or bare faced liars....dancing around on pins as if no one can notice. (which I do have an issue with)

It gets a bit pointless once you realise you are dealing with people who aren't willing to be honest and straight forward and unfortunately that's what we have now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2020 2.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Dec 20 2.35pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Well said! Nobody positively discriminates, it's illegal in the UK. In order to get the best people, Companies set criteria for assessing candidates. Based upon the organisation's objectives and the role requirements. That is what I have described. If you really want to pick a fight, try asking any major organisation which candidate they would favour ceteris paribus. As a tie break, they will normally go for the less 'standard' candidate - whatever that may be in their world - to increase the breadth of thinking. This is the post. No candidates tie. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 Dec 20 2.35pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well said!

Nobody positively discriminates, it's illegal in the UK.

In order to get the best people, Companies set criteria for assessing candidates. Based upon the organisation's objectives and the role requirements.

That is what I have described.

If you really want to pick a fight, try asking any major organisation which candidate they would favour ceteris paribus. As a tie break, they will normally go for the less 'standard' candidate - whatever that may be in their world - to increase the breadth of thinking.

This is the post.

No candidates tie.

COYP

cryrst The garden of England 19 Dec 20 4.12pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I don’t believe I ever said that But I am partial to red and blue And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions. Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am) As a black guy!!!@

cryrst

The garden of England 19 Dec 20 4.12pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t believe I ever said that

But I am partial to red and blue

And by the way you already had your chance to debate with me on that topic. Instead you come snivelling round the back door making unfounded assertions.

Edited by Mapletree (19 Dec 2020 10.33am)

As a black guy!!!@

georgenorman 19 Dec 20 5.29pm
This not directly taking a knee but is part of the general nonsense related to current race issues: Rod Liddle in the Spectator gives us what he calls “an almost perfect postscript to 2020, the Year of Derangement”. Cornell University in the USA will ban students from their libraries and other campus buildings if they refuse to have a flu vaccine. However, ‘Students of Color’ can decline the vaccine if they have concerns based on historical injustices and current events. Here is Cornell’s website guide on this: “We recognize that, due to longstanding systemic racism and health inequities in this country, individuals from some marginalized communities may have concerns about needing to agree to such requirements. For example, historically, the bodies the of Black, Indigenous, and other People of Color (BIPOC) have been mistreated, and used by people in power, sometimes for profit or medical gain. It is understandable that the current Compact requirements may feel suspect or even exploitative to some BIPOC members of the Cornell community. Additionally, recent acts of violence against Black people by law enforcement may contribute to feelings of distrust or powerlessness. We know this history and validate the potential concerns it may raise. At the same time, we know that long-standing social inequalities and health disparities have resulted in COVID-19 disproportionately affecting BIPOC individuals. Higher percentages of individuals from these communities become infected with COVID, and the health outcomes related to infection are often more serious. Away from campus community, BIPOC individuals are not as likely to have access to preventive services or quality health care. The systems, services, and policies being implemented at Cornell seek to address these inequalities as well as the differential impacts.” Apart from the clear racial discrimination involved, the policy must lead to a high risk of flu infections among those exempted. No doubt the Klu Klux Klan highly approve of the policy.

georgenorman

19 Dec 20 5.29pm

This not directly taking a knee but is part of the general nonsense related to current race issues: Rod Liddle in the Spectator gives us what he calls “an almost perfect postscript to 2020, the Year of Derangement”. Cornell University in the USA will ban students from their libraries and other campus buildings if they refuse to have a flu vaccine. However, ‘Students of Color’ can decline the vaccine if they have concerns based on historical injustices and current events. Here is Cornell’s website guide on this:
“We recognize that, due to longstanding systemic racism and health inequities in this country, individuals from some marginalized communities may have concerns about needing to agree to such requirements. For example, historically, the bodies the of Black, Indigenous, and other People of Color (BIPOC) have been mistreated, and used by people in power, sometimes for profit or medical gain. It is understandable that the current Compact requirements may feel suspect or even exploitative to some BIPOC members of the Cornell community. Additionally, recent acts of violence against Black people by law enforcement may contribute to feelings of distrust or powerlessness. We know this history and validate the potential concerns it may raise. At the same time, we know that long-standing social inequalities and health disparities have resulted in COVID-19 disproportionately affecting BIPOC individuals. Higher percentages of individuals from these communities become infected with COVID, and the health outcomes related to infection are often more serious. Away from campus community, BIPOC individuals are not as likely to have access to preventive services or quality health care. The systems, services, and policies being implemented at Cornell seek to address these inequalities as well as the differential impacts.”
Apart from the clear racial discrimination involved, the policy must lead to a high risk of flu infections among those exempted. No doubt the Klu Klux Klan highly approve of the policy.

Eaglecoops CR3 19 Dec 20 8.41pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman This is the post. No candidates tie. Thanks Rudi, you saved me a long search.

Eaglecoops

CR3 19 Dec 20 8.41pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This is the post.

No candidates tie.

Thanks Rudi, you saved me a long search.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Dec 20 12.55am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Thanks Rudi, you saved me a long search. There’s a ‘Search the Holmesdale online’ bar under your login box and friend updates and above the adverts. I just typed in ‘tie break candidate’ or something. Edited by Rudi Hedman (20 Dec 2020 10.11am) COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 20 Dec 20 12.55am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Thanks Rudi, you saved me a long search.

There’s a ‘Search the Holmesdale online’ bar under your login box and friend updates and above the adverts. I just typed in ‘tie break candidate’ or something.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (20 Dec 2020 10.11am)

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