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hedgehog50  Croydon 05 Apr 17 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Sounds very different than the rhetoric of the leave campaign. Are we taking full control of our borders and immigration from the EU or not? Yes we are going to take full control of our borders and immigration. We shall decide who and how many come in, not the EU. If we negotiate some limited period of free movement after we have fully left, so be it. Although I should think totally unconditional free movement is highly unlikely.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Yes we are going to take full control of our borders and immigration. We shall decide who and how many come in, not the EU. If we negotiate some limited period of free movement after we have fully left, so be it. Although I should think totally unconditional free movement is highly unlikely. How long do you think is reasonable. When we talk about control of our borders and immigration in regards to the EU, do you think the UK will negotiate an agreement with the EU, or simply implement rules based on non-EU countries, or will they revert to the previous 'free movement' agreements with European nations that predate 2004. How will we restrict EU nationals entering the UK. Will they require Work Visas and vacation visas if they're here for more than x number of weeks / months etc.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Apr 17 3.10pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
How long do you think is reasonable. When we talk about control of our borders and immigration in regards to the EU, do you think the UK will negotiate an agreement with the EU, or simply implement rules based on non-EU countries, or will they revert to the previous 'free movement' agreements with European nations that predate 2004. How will we restrict EU nationals entering the UK. Will they require Work Visas and vacation visas if they're here for more than x number of weeks / months etc. May will negotiate a deal that she feels is in the best interests of the UK. The EU will try to negotiate a deal that is in the best interests of the Germany and France.
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 europalace  Europe 05 Apr 17 4.40pm |
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of course the same restrictions, if any, will apply to UK citizens who want to visit, work or live in any of the other 27 EU countries.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Apr 17 4.48pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
of course the same restrictions, if any, will apply to UK citizens who want to visit, work or live in any of the other 27 EU countries. Of course - fine.
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| Part Time James 05 Apr 17 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
of course the same restrictions, if any, will apply to UK citizens who want to visit, work or live in any of the other 27 EU countries. Would be happy with that.
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| .TUX. 05 Apr 17 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Would be happy with that. Seconded.
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| davenotamonkey 05 Apr 17 6.30pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Sounds very different than the rhetoric of the leave campaign. Are we taking full control of our borders and immigration from the EU or not? Sigh. We didn't vote in a "Leave" government last June. We didn't vote a "Leave party" manifesto to be implemented into policy. We voted on a position. How that is implemented is down to the commons-backed Government. Jesus. You people. Besides, weren't you remainiacs (post-result, of course) wailing on about how the referendum was non-binding and advisory? Surely then, it doesn't matter what either side said, as it would never be transcribed into law. Yes, under actual Brexit (as opposed to a fake-halfwayhouse touted as "soft"
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we would take full control of our borders. Our government will decide immigration policy with NO oversight from the EU. If (unwisely, in my opinion) the government decides it must open doors arbitrarily to anyone from 27 of the 190+ countries in the world, it will need to defend this policy in the 2020 general election. We, as the electorate, will have the right to disagree and choose a different path. This is how the overwhelming majority of democratic nations operate on this planet. | davenotamonkey 05 Apr 17 6.37pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Seconded. Thirded (speaking as someone that has already gone through said process because the skills I possess make me a benefit to my would-be host country)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Sigh. We didn't vote in a "Leave" government last June. We didn't vote a "Leave party" manifesto to be implemented into policy. We voted on a position. How that is implemented is down to the commons-backed Government. Jesus. You people. Besides, weren't you remainiacs (post-result, of course) wailing on about how the referendum was non-binding and advisory? Surely then, it doesn't matter what either side said, as it would never be transcribed into law. Yes, under actual Brexit (as opposed to a fake-halfwayhouse touted as "soft" I think Jamie voted leave. Just saying...
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leifandersonshair  Newport 05 Apr 17 7.12pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I think Jamie voted leave. Just saying... There are only two positions on Brexit- bleeding heart liberal elite remoaners or frothing swivel eyed Brexiteers. If you aren't one you must, logically, be the other
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 10.12pm |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
There are only two positions on Brexit- bleeding heart liberal elite remoaners or frothing swivel eyed Brexiteers. If you aren't one you must, logically, be the other Most right wingers I know have a face like a rubber Johnny filled with mashed potato.
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