Those are contributing factors. You suggesting that immigration is the wrong angle is just ignoring around fifty percent of all these problems.

No one said immigration was entirely to blame for these situations. This is you framing the arguments of others incorrectly.

The fault for the amount of immigration and its type lies directly at the feet of politicians and the activists who support them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Oct 2018 3.22pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

it's a bit difficult to know his angle on this

he objects to France dumping immigrants in Italy but wouldn't he do the same ? the anti immigration party leader critisizing France for acting anti immigrant

Edited by Pussay Patrol (16 Oct 2018 7.47pm)

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

For those of us still sane despite brexit paranoia about immigration, there were actually only two people and the French apologised saying it was an accident.

Not Mussolini and WW2 again, sorry brexiteers.

Also FIFA is not in the EU but Switzerland and its members do not run around obeying Brussels directives.

PL clubs wanting to buy players outside the EU simply do so, there are players from Africa and South America here or hadn't you noticed.

The PM in a Thatcher pose we won't pay without a deal etc. etc.

Is that right though, doesn't the divorce bill have to be paid anyway?

just the usual buffoonary you expect

Surely you would have some experts analyse what our liabilities and commitments are, and tell us what more or less that number is and where there is margin for negotiation

Instead you get throw away numbers ranging from 0 to 50bn and Ministers shouting we won't pay like a load of 12 year olds

Our politicians are a total embarrassment to us and the rest of the world laughs at us

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Brit-bashing is the general sport of European countries. After all - what did we ever do for them? I wouldn't pay it much heed, just a way to deflect from their own shortcomings. Wanting to leave the EU is hardly idiotic. The EU is disliked by a majority of people too - they just aren't ever going to get a choice. Particularly after Brexit

Red and Blue Army!

Brexit is a shameful disgrace.

The only man ever to enter parliament with honourable intentions, so it's said.

So Mys May's big idea to solve the deadlock is to ask for more time. Enough is enough. The EU are not serious about offering us a deal they a trying to drag this out with the help of the PM. So in return for the EU conceding err nothing we pay them billions more for an extra year. Just heard Hilary Benn say the transition period should be flexible in other words a Hotel California deal.

It's time for the Brexit MPs to step up to the plate May has to go. She delayed the start of negotiations and then agreed to their timetable which was linear rather than multi channel. So no negotiations on the future relations until the exit deal had been agreed. This was always going to drag on which is what the EU and the Remainers wanted. The EU has given nothing and May has just rolled over.

We should leave March 2019 and tell the EU they are not getting a penny however we are happy to negotiate if they want. This puts the pressure back on them if they want their 40bn stop the delaying tactics.

Edited by Badger11 (18 Oct 2018 7.59am)

One more point

I think it's pretty unanimous on here that the Maybot and her team are fookin useless. Is this the first thing we've all agreed on?

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Oct 2018 9.48am)