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 Badger11  Beckenham 23 Oct 18 10.39am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You'd end up with loads of bankrupt pensioners. My parents live in an affluent Surrey suburb and they paid about £8,500 for their house some forty years ago. The house is now approaching your target value of £1m but my 91 year old mother couldn't afford to pay any more Council Tax out of her pension and I'm guessing that her whole road is in a similar position Good point. My retired friend and his wife never had well paid jobs but scrapped by. I shocked him the other day by showing him Zoopla (he doesn't do technology) the houses in his street are worth 800k yet they don't have dispoal income.
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| Midlands Eagle 23 Oct 18 10.41am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
That's not true, Lewis Hamilton's lifestyle is such that he is rarely in one place and he doesn't make his income in the UK so it makes sense for him to be based in a tax haven, you can't apply the same theory across the board Lewis Hamilton is actually employed by a UK registered company and therefore his salary will be paid in the UK even though he races around the world
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| Stirlingsays 23 Oct 18 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
That's not true, Lewis Hamilton's lifestyle is such that he is rarely in one place and he doesn't make his income in the UK so it makes sense for him to be based in a tax haven, you can't apply the same theory across the board If you're happy for the rich and corporates to take advantage of taxloopholes and pay as little as possible, fine. I guess as long as ordinary folk blame immigrants for all the countries ills they can get away with it ? The lifestyle of the vast majority of 'mega rich' is no different. 'If I'm happy'???? Emotion has absolutely zilch to do with it....Nada, nothing. I hate the fact that the left lie to the economically illiterate and the young, who don't know any better, about what's possible. Again, how are you going to keep the money in the country to 'tax'? How do you stop the 'mega rich' from transferring wealth into untaxable means? You can't....stop participating in lies to the vulnerable. because that's what it amounts to. Again, the only 'extra' money you will collect will be from those who can't leave or can't afford to hide it. While I have sympathy for the idea of corporates paying more any significant change will only result in future investment going elsewhere.....low tax attracts business. For the third time, what 'right wing media'?
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| Stirlingsays 23 Oct 18 10.49am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You'd end up with loads of bankrupt pensioners. My parents live in an affluent Surrey suburb and they paid about £8,500 for their house some forty years ago. The house is now approaching your target value of £1m but my 91 year old mother couldn't afford to pay any more Council Tax out of her pension and I'm guessing that her whole road is in a similar position You know it.
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Pussay Patrol  23 Oct 18 11.16am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You'd end up with loads of bankrupt pensioners. My parents live in an affluent Surrey suburb and they paid about £8,500 for their house some forty years ago. The house is now approaching your target value of £1m but my 91 year old mother couldn't afford to pay any more Council Tax out of her pension and I'm guessing that her whole road is in a similar position When your mother was young, property was affordable, young people now don't have the same advantages. It should be passed down or release the equity
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 23 Oct 18 3.03pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I wouldn't change income tax, i'm talking more about property taxes. I would put a tax on people with 2nd properties and increase council tax on properties over £1m. Use that to tackle homelessness and put into improving social housing At the end of the day we have huge wealth in London and many expensive properties out of the reach of ordinary people, yet homelessness is at record levels and we allowed Grenfell to happen in one of the richest parts of the country. Big social imbalance, it's time to redress that People with second properties are already taxed more. Research it. The populist 'tax the rich' nonsense on the left still leaves a massive shortfall. How do you get the rest of the money?
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| Stuk Top half 23 Oct 18 3.14pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Lewis Hamilton is actually employed by a UK registered company and therefore his salary will be paid in the UK even though he races around the world That's not the case. He'll be paid for the British GP in the UK.
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| dannyboy1978 23 Oct 18 3.29pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
When your mother was young, property was affordable, young people now don't have the same advantages. It should be passed down or release the equity So basically the governments failures in building houses for the mass immigration they aloud has led to people in your eyes having to release equity and pass down houses before they die? Seriously!!!
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| Badger11 Beckenham 23 Oct 18 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
That's not the case. He'll be paid for the British GP in the UK. I believe he is a resident of Monocao so as long as he doesn't spend more than 90 days in the UK he will be taxed there.
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| dannyboy1978 23 Oct 18 3.38pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I believe he is a resident of Monocao so as long as he doesn't spend more than 90 days in the UK he will be taxed there. That's why it makes me sick when they fly the British flag!! Mo farah is another one.
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| Pussay Patrol 23 Oct 18 3.41pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
People with second properties are already taxed more. Research it. The populist 'tax the rich' nonsense on the left still leaves a massive shortfall. How do you get the rest of the money? Why is trying to create fairness in the property market nonsense? At the end of the day we are a rich country, there is alot of wealth in London, so much so that ordinary people have been priced out, people on an average wage cannot get onto the property ladder, there is a chronic lack of social housing and homelessness is at record levels. So that imbalance needs to be redressed. No one is trying to bash the rich, just want to narrow that wealth gap and create a fairer, inclusive society for everyone Why are you and so many others so quick to defend the rich anyway? sounds like you've swallowed the same 'it's all the immigrants fault' pill.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 23 Oct 18 3.43pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
That's why it makes me sick when they fly the British flag!! Mo farah is another one. We live in a global village I have no problem with people choosing to live abroad. I do dislike people like Sean Connery campaigning for the SNP and their high tax regime when he hasn't paid UK tax since the 1960's. As long as Hamilton and Farah keep their political views private fair enough. If they start campaigning for the Remain camp then they will earn my ire.
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| dannyboy1978 23 Oct 18 4.06pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
We live in a global village Sorry I find that a load of old trot. Global village!! Honestly that is hilarious!! Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Oct 2018 4.07pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 23 Oct 18 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Sorry I find that a load of old trot. Global village!! Honestly that is hilarious!! Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Oct 2018 4.07pm) It's just a shorthand expression. I meant that we are far more mobile than our parents were and travel is a lot more easier e.g. you can live in France and commute to England.
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| .TUX. 23 Oct 18 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
People with second properties are already taxed more. Research it. The populist 'tax the rich' nonsense on the left still leaves a massive shortfall. How do you get the rest of the money? Stop bailing-out privately owned banks with money borrowed (with interest!) from another privately owned bank (BoE) would be a start. We'd be in a far batter position now had we let the fookers rot 10yrs ago. But that's not the way the game is played.
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| dannyboy1978 23 Oct 18 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
It's just a shorthand expression. I meant that we are far more mobile than our parents were and travel is a lot more easier e.g. you can live in France and commute to England. There were jet planes back in the 70's?
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| Stuk Top half 23 Oct 18 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I believe he is a resident of Monocao so as long as he doesn't spend more than 90 days in the UK he will be taxed there. Correct. While the earnings will be in each country the tax won't necessarily be due there. In some places he will pay tax on the earnings made there, depending on that country's or state's (in the US, for example) tax laws.
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| Stuk Top half 23 Oct 18 4.43pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
That's why it makes me sick when they fly the British flag!! Mo farah is another one. Just because you move country it doesn't mean you change nationality.
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| dannyboy1978 23 Oct 18 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Just because you move country it doesn't mean you change nationality. Very true but if your moving to save tax then It basically saying "sod you lot" I'm going to keep all my money and not help the poorer with my tax. Very anti left!!
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 23 Oct 18 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Why is trying to create fairness in the property market nonsense? At the end of the day we are a rich country, there is alot of wealth in London, so much so that ordinary people have been priced out, people on an average wage cannot get onto the property ladder, there is a chronic lack of social housing and homelessness is at record levels. So that imbalance needs to be redressed. No one is trying to bash the rich, just want to narrow that wealth gap and create a fairer, inclusive society for everyone Why are you and so many others so quick to defend the rich anyway? sounds like you've swallowed the same 'it's all the immigrants fault' pill. I agree with you regarding the housing problem but taxing the rich will not solve it. The left's answer is always to tax the rich. If you seriously think that will solve it, then give me some figures to back it up. How much money will it cost to build social housing and from your suggestions, how much money will these tax rises on the rich bring in? It is nonsense until you can back it up with figures and not populist rhetoric. Your sums do not add up.
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