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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 22 Sep 21 11.02am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
BBC DG Tim Davies says they hire across the political spectrum when defending the appointment of a Remainer BLM supporter to a senior position in the news division. Which spectrum is that Tim? From the far left to the centre left? Edited by Badger11 (21 Sep 2021 10.44pm) from the far left to the looney left of spectrum. With just a small touch of the autistic spectrum ... so they can shout and talk over you that Achilles , Anne Boleyn & Julius Caesar were really Afro-caribeann.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 27 Sep 21 6.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
After scrapped free TV Licences for the over 75's, and making cuts amounting to many millions, Tim Davie the chief chappy at the Beeb is getting a £75,000 a YEAR pay rise, to bring the poor publicaly paid chap up to 525, 000 a year. The PM gets 160, 000.....though admittedly that doesn't include all the expenses. This institution simply isn't worth it....got rid of my licence earlier in the year and considering I was watching the BBC zero hours a week anyway it represents stopping an unfair transaction. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Sep 2021 5.42pm) As I am sure you know, you need a TV licence to watch ANY live TV, plus the iPlayer etc. It isn't just for the BBC. Watch ITV, Sky or anything on the Freeviewer channels, and you need a licence. So be careful. Someone might "dob you in".
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Sep 21 2.08pm |
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Today's world news, but not in the UK obviously. Doesn't happen.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 28 Sep 21 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As I am sure you know, you need a TV licence to watch ANY live TV, plus the iPlayer etc. It isn't just for the BBC. Watch ITV, Sky or anything on the Freeviewer channels, and you need a licence. So be careful. Someone might "dob you in". we are forced to pay for our own ideological indoctrination ? sounds familiar. You often get this with a conquered people.
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| DanH SW2 28 Sep 21 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
we are forced to pay for our own ideological indoctrination ? sounds familiar. You often get this with a conquered people. No one is forcing you to do anything. Would love you lot to have to spend a day under an actually oppressive regime. You snowflakes wouldn’t last 24 hours.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Sep 21 7.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
After scrapped free TV Licences for the over 75's, and making cuts amounting to many millions, Tim Davie the chief chappy at the Beeb is getting a £75,000 a YEAR pay rise, to bring the poor publicaly paid chap up to 525, 000 a year. The PM gets 160, 000.....though admittedly that doesn't include all the expenses. This institution simply isn't worth it....got rid of my licence earlier in the year and considering I was watching the BBC zero hours a week anyway it represents stopping an unfair transaction. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Sep 2021 5.42pm) How does the BBC justified a 16% increase in salary? Has he slashed costs? Is customer satisfaction up? What measure of criteria did they use to justify it. From what I have seen of his performance so far he has made some headway on reducing the really high earners and he has cut some jobs but basically this is all minor tinkering. What is he doing to protect the BBC from the politicians and the public especially over the licence fee? For his first year I would say steady as she goes no more than that, the real threats to the BBC still exist. Edited by Badger11 (28 Sep 2021 7.15pm)
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| Stirlingsays 28 Sep 21 7.28pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
How does the BBC justified a 16% increase in salary? Has he slashed costs? Is customer satisfaction up? What measure of criteria did they use to justify it. From what I have seen of his performance so far he has made some headway on reducing the really high earners and he has cut some jobs but basically this is all minor tinkering. What is he doing to protect the BBC from the politicians and the public especially over the licence fee? For his first year I would say steady as she goes no more than that, the real threats to the BBC still exist. Edited by Badger11 (28 Sep 2021 7.15pm) The Tories have protected the license fee until 2027. I couldn't quite believe it when I found that out.....all the waffle and sabre rattling and it turns out that this is just another policy where the leadership speak one message to their base and do the opposite in practice. No doubt, Covid would be a partial excuse but this is what we have multiple ministers for.....so we can kick backside and chew gum at the same time. I'm in the camp where I think the BBC is irreformable and isn't worth keeping at anything like its current funding level. Also, the current license fee set up is a disgrace and a throw back to the past in today's streaming world. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2021 8.01pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Sep 21 8.17pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The Tories have protected the license fee until 2027. I couldn't quite believe it when I found that out.....all the waffle and sabre rattling and it turns out that this is just another policy where the leadership speak one message to their base and do the opposite in practice. No doubt, Covid would be a partial excuse but this is what we have multiple ministers for.....so we can kick backside and chew gum at the same time. I'm in the camp where I think the BBC is irreformable and isn't worth keeping at anything like its current funding level. Also, the current license fee set up is a disgrace and a throw back to the past in today's streaming world. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2021 8.01pm) Just like the dockers and the print there is a window of opportunity for the BBC to make changes to head off the cancel the licence fee movement, however as you say I doubt they will reform to head it off. There are plenty of things they could do to reform themselves and curb the excessive over reach of the beeb but they showed by appointing the current DG they will not do that.
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 Sep 21 8.23pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
No one is forcing you to do anything. Would love you lot to have to spend a day under an actually oppressive regime. You snowflakes wouldn’t last 24 hours. Have you then?
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| Stirlingsays 28 Sep 21 8.28pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Just like the dockers and the print there is a window of opportunity for the BBC to make changes to head off the cancel the licence fee movement, however as you say I doubt they will reform to head it off. There are plenty of things they could do to reform themselves and curb the excessive over reach of the beeb but they showed by appointing the current DG they will not do that. Twenty years ago perhaps there was a chance, I know there were internal voices near the top about widening out cultural view diversity at the BBC but they rejected the opportunity.
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| DanH SW2 28 Sep 21 8.43pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Have you then? No? I live in the U.K. I don’t feel particularly ‘conquered’ because I have to pay about 40p a day to watch the telly. Maybe he should try Kabul for a comparison and see where he feels more conquered.
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| DanH SW2 28 Sep 21 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
fancy a criminal record for refusing to pay for a channel you dislike ? No one is forcing you to pay it. Just don’t watch or listen to anything the licence fee covers. It’s really not difficult.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 28 Sep 21 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
No one is forcing you to pay it. Just don’t watch or listen to anything the licence fee covers. It’s really not difficult. its like charging me to manufacture eggs even though i never eat the feckers. Just cos i got a frying pan, its all my financial obligation. daylight robbery. Egg yolks are yellow. Funnily enough.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Sep 21 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Twenty years ago perhaps there was a chance, I know there were internal voices near the top about widening out cultural view diversity at the BBC but they rejected the opportunity. I was thinking about the BBC scaling back and thus reducing the licence fee, most people would be happy with that. You only have to compare the size and reach of the BBC in the 1970's to today to see what I mean. Their local news and also local radio services has killed off any other competition and they have a huge internet service. Personally I want to abolish the licence but one solution would be BBC basic package (covered by the licence fee) e.g. BBC1 and 2 plus some radio stations. BBC plus would be anything else paid by subscription or advertising. Edited by Badger11 (28 Sep 2021 9.23pm)
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| Stirlingsays 28 Sep 21 9.55pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I was thinking about the BBC scaling back and thus reducing the licence fee, most people would be happy with that. You only have to compare the size and reach of the BBC in the 1970's to today to see what I mean. Their local news and also local radio services has killed off any other competition and they have a huge internet service. Personally I want to abolish the licence but one solution would be BBC basic package (covered by the licence fee) e.g. BBC1 and 2 plus some radio stations. BBC plus would be anything else paid by subscription or advertising. Edited by Badger11 (28 Sep 2021 9.23pm) Sounds sensible to me. People paying for the services they want to use seems far more inline with the modern day. There could be a protected package but for me it would have to be non political and so would involve a lot of negotiation. I don't know what the world service is like today but when I was young I remember it being something to be proud of.....probably woke now.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Sep 21 11.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sounds sensible to me. People paying for the services they want to use seems far more inline with the modern day. There could be a protected package but for me it would have to be non political and so would involve a lot of negotiation. I don't know what the world service is like today but when I was young I remember it being something to be proud of.....probably woke now.
The world service remains something to be very proud of. In many countries, which have national broadcasters who are controlled by their governments, it is still the most trusted source of news and information. It is arguably our most valuable export, as it sets us apart from almost everyone else and shows the best aspects of British standards of respect and accuracy. An image that is very important but under threat from the current government and especially the PM. Funding that export, via the licence fee, and keeping the government's, of any hue, mucky hands off it, seems like very good value for money to me. Money we should all be willing and proud to pay. It's not all about "me" and what "I" get out of it. It's much bigger than that.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 Sep 21 7.39am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The world service remains something to be very proud of. In many countries, which have national broadcasters who are controlled by their governments, it is still the most trusted source of news and information. It is arguably our most valuable export, as it sets us apart from almost everyone else and shows the best aspects of British standards of respect and accuracy. An image that is very important but under threat from the current government and especially the PM. Funding that export, via the licence fee, and keeping the government's, of any hue, mucky hands off it, seems like very good value for money to me. Money we should all be willing and proud to pay. It's not all about "me" and what "I" get out of it. It's much bigger than that. I honestly do not believe the Workd Service is listened to by any great numbers, with the internet and global news available on tv, people just do not listen to the “wireless”. Years ago, yes, but not now. Certainly does not warrant licence money being spent on it
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