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Maine Eagle Flag USA 21 Dec 20 1.38am

Racism is real. Its out there and will always exist in some way. How much it permeates everyday life of a given society or community can be influenced though.

If players of a professional sport want to "take a knee" to make a statement of some kind, then they are free to do so.

If it encourages one 12 year old to question whether or not he should carry on the mantle of racism handed down to him by his ignorant small minded father, then it has value.

If just 1 kid out there decides that he should not make a determination about someone because they have black skin, or white skin for that matter, because some footballers knelt down for a minute before a match, then so be it.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Dec 20 2.08am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Racism is real. Its out there and will always exist in some way. How much it permeates everyday life of a given society or community can be influenced though.

If players of a professional sport want to "take a knee" to make a statement of some kind, then they are free to do so.

If it encourages one 12 year old to question whether or not he should carry on the mantle of racism handed down to him by his ignorant small minded father, then it has value.

If just 1 kid out there decides that he should not make a determination about someone because they have black skin, or white skin for that matter, because some footballers knelt down for a minute before a match, then so be it.


Whites are the least racist racial group in the world.

That's why they have allowed other racial groups to have more control and wealth within their societies than exists in any other society: African or Asian.

Obviously with power comes self interest....that's what I see happening.

Indoctrinated whites who romanticise the 'other' create double standards towards them. Of course other groups are going to agree with you when you express self hatred and tell them they should have more power and control.....Yet this isn't done within their own societies.

Indeed, the Chinese laugh at this and have a name for a western white who expresses self destructive self hatred.....Baizuo.

When I grew up we believed in meritocracy and a colour blind attitude. I can see now that this was a tactic, as with demographic change the whites who don't accept self hatred messaging and claims of invented 'racism' are demonised. Apart from non white activist groups most of this demonisation it comes from indoctrinated whites themselves like you Mainey, if indeed, you actually are.

Stay on your knees, it suits you mate.


Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Dec 2020 4.12am)

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 21 Dec 20 4.31am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Whites are the least racist racial group in the world.

That's why they have allowed other racial groups to have more control and wealth within their societies than exists in any other society: African or Asian.

Obviously with power comes self interest....that's what I see happening.

Indoctrinated whites who romanticise the 'other' create double standards towards them. Of course other groups are going to agree with you when you express self hatred and tell them they should have more power and control.....Yet this isn't done within their own societies.

Indeed, the Chinese laugh at this and have a name for a western white who expresses self destructive self hatred.....Baizuo.

When I grew up we believed in meritocracy and a colour blind attitude. I can see now that this was a tactic, as with demographic change the whites who don't accept self hatred messaging and claims of invented 'racism' are demonised. Apart from non white activist groups most of this demonisation it comes from indoctrinated whites themselves like you Mainey, if indeed, you actually are.

Stay on your knees, it suits you mate.


Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Dec 2020 4.12am)

So you disagree with the above premise about one child being swayed away from racism, stirley? If you feel that way, I do feel sorry for you.

My point is not about demonization, it’s about education.

If players kneeling can help to pick off racists, one by one, until they are intelligent enough to understand their ignorance, I am all for it.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Dec 20 5.09am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

So you disagree with the above premise about one child being swayed away from racism, stirley? If you feel that way, I do feel sorry for you.

My point is not about demonization, it’s about education.

If players kneeling can help to pick off racists, one by one, until they are intelligent enough to understand their ignorance, I am all for it.

I don't agree with abusing people for no real reason no.

However, I do think, your ideas on 'racism' are indoctrinated and out of proportion.

You can feel sorry for me Mainey....I kind of like the idea. You can start a 'go fund me' if you like.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 21 Dec 20 7.14am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Racism is real. Its out there and will always exist in some way. How much it permeates everyday life of a given society or community can be influenced though.

If players of a professional sport want to "take a knee" to make a statement of some kind, then they are free to do so.

If it encourages one 12 year old to question whether or not he should carry on the mantle of racism handed down to him by his ignorant small minded father, then it has value.

If just 1 kid out there decides that he should not make a determination about someone because they have black skin, or white skin for that matter, because some footballers knelt down for a minute before a match, then so be it.

You say that players are free to make a statement if they wish to but they are not. They are ONLY allowed to take a knee for racism.

What if they want to take a knee over climate control or any other issue?

 


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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 7.47am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

You say that players are free to make a statement if they wish to but they are not. They are ONLY allowed to take a knee for racism.

What if they want to take a knee over climate control or any other issue?

Clutching at Whataboutism straws here. Have you missed the adjacent "Rainbow Laces" campaign?

 


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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 7.48am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Racism is real. Its out there and will always exist in some way. How much it permeates everyday life of a given society or community can be influenced though.

If players of a professional sport want to "take a knee" to make a statement of some kind, then they are free to do so.

If it encourages one 12 year old to question whether or not he should carry on the mantle of racism handed down to him by his ignorant small minded father, then it has value.

If just 1 kid out there decides that he should not make a determination about someone because they have black skin, or white skin for that matter, because some footballers knelt down for a minute before a match, then so be it.

Please don't come on here with well thought out, reasonable posts. People on here don't like it.

 


La la la your mum

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 21 Dec 20 9.02am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Racism is real. Its out there and will always exist in some way. How much it permeates everyday life of a given society or community can be influenced though.

If players of a professional sport want to "take a knee" to make a statement of some kind, then they are free to do so.

If it encourages one 12 year old to question whether or not he should carry on the mantle of racism handed down to him by his ignorant small minded father, then it has value.

If just 1 kid out there decides that he should not make a determination about someone because they have black skin, or white skin for that matter, because some footballers knelt down for a minute before a match, then so be it.

If we could just convince one person to stop carrying and using knives in the street then maybe it might save a life. But that’s not considered as important obviously.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 21 Dec 20 9.56am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

If we could just convince one person to stop carrying and using knives in the street then maybe it might save a life. But that’s not considered as important obviously.

Usually gets the cops surrounded by a dozen black people, sometimes from different classes or socioeconomic groups, as a 6 inch blade comes out of his pocket.

 


COYP

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 21 Dec 20 9.57am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Clutching at Whataboutism straws here. Have you missed the adjacent "Rainbow Laces" campaign?

Do you think we should take a knee for Rainbow Laces? Or isn’t this as deserving.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Dec 20 10.28am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

So you disagree with the above premise about one child being swayed away from racism, stirley? If you feel that way, I do feel sorry for you.

My point is not about demonization, it’s about education.

If players kneeling can help to pick off racists, one by one, until they are intelligent enough to understand their ignorance, I am all for it.

You really mean one White child.

This anti racism stuff is a self serving fantasy which has nothing to do with the real world.

Stirling is 100% correct. White people are basically being conditioned to accept their own replacement.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Dec 20 10.30am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Please don't come on here with well thought out, reasonable posts. People on here don't like it.

Reasonable to you.

I have asked you before. How exactly will BLM make the world better?
What specifically is it that BLM want?

Don't give me some old blah blah about ending racism. That is a load of phooey.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Dec 2020 10.31am)

 

madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 10.48am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Reasonable to you.

I have asked you before. How exactly will BLM make the world better?
What specifically is it that BLM want?

Don't give me some old blah blah about ending racism. That is a load of phooey.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Dec 2020 10.31am)

I have no affiliation with BLM the organisation, as I've said many times, so I wouldn't know what they want. I'm sure they have a manifesto on their site if you want to have a look, cheers.

 


La la la your mum

madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 10.50am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Do you think we should take a knee for Rainbow Laces? Or isn’t this as deserving.

Rainbow laces had it's own gesture, hence the name.

 


La la la your mum

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 21 Dec 20 10.58am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Rainbow laces had it's own gesture, hence the name.

I’m fully aware of this, the point is would you suggest taking a knee for other causes too?

How about taking a knee at the start of the second half for mental health?

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

DanH Flag SW2 21 Dec 20 11.02am

I think this can just be summarised as Stirling and Hrolf believing in the great replacement theory and calling anyone that doesn’t ‘brainwashed’.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 21 Dec 20 11.42am

Originally posted by DanH

I think this can just be summarised as Stirling and Hrolf believing in the great replacement theory and calling anyone that doesn’t ‘brainwashed’.


Shouldn't you be better with statistics?

 


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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 11.58am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I’m fully aware of this, the point is would you suggest taking a knee for other causes too?

How about taking a knee at the start of the second half for mental health?

I don't have an issue with taking the knee for anything, I played American football and had to do it regularly.

 


La la la your mum

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 21 Dec 20 12.22pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I have no affiliation with BLM the organisation, as I've said many times, so I wouldn't know what they want. I'm sure they have a manifesto on their site if you want to have a look, cheers.

What do you want/expecting to see changing from kneeling at football?

 


COYP

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Dec 20 12.26pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I have no affiliation with BLM the organisation, as I've said many times, so I wouldn't know what they want. I'm sure they have a manifesto on their site if you want to have a look, cheers.

Evasive answer.
Forget the actual organisation. I know what they want.

What do those that hide under the blanket of BLM but claim not to be associated with it want?

What do they specifically want?

Surely this is a simple question. People making public demonstrations and taking up hours of media time must know exactly what they are campaigning for.

What exactly is it?

 

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