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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 21 Dec 20 7.59pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
No thanks, if people can't be arsed to read what I'm saying, why repeat myself? Just type it again. Won’t take longer than a couple of minutes. Oh, the ‘’can’t be &rsed’’ excuse.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 21 Dec 20 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
If you have any actual real life black friends, have this conversation with them, the picture you're painting is quite inaccurate. Compared to my viewpoint anyway. The bit about preferencial treatment by the police was particularly funny. But what is it they want? What changes to the law? What sort of education do they think we need? What exactly do they want to happen before they end their campaign? You just won't tell us will you. This is like a campaign for world peace. It is bulls***. It has no focus or real aim. It is just a pathetic gesture to satisfy feeble minds. The people who orchestrated this know what it is really about. Profit.
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| Maine Eagle USA 21 Dec 20 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by JRW2
If the right to make a meaningless gesture such as taking the knee was proportionate to the importance of the issue in question, we'd all be on our knees all the time if the issue was climate change. Compared with that, alleged racism is of no importance whatsoever. What you do in your free time on Clapham Common is your business. Joking aside, I believe climate change is the biggest challenge we face now, and will blight the lives of future generations. However if you were Stephen Lawrence's mother, you might feel racism is a bit of an issue too. Bear in mind where this started - my father in law went to college in the South of the US where there was still racial segregation in the 1960s. Taking the knee is a yank phenomenon but there is certainly enough racism, even today, in blighty, to justify this act before Prem games. Deal with it, snowflakes.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Dec 20 8.36pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
What you do in your free time on Clapham Common is your business. Joking aside, I believe climate change is the biggest challenge we face now, and will blight the lives of future generations. However if you were Stephen Lawrence's mother, you might feel racism is a bit of an issue too. Bear in mind where this started - my father in law went to college in the South of the US where there was still racial segregation in the 1960s. Taking the knee is a yank phenomenon but there is certainly enough racism, even today, in blighty, to justify this act before Prem games. Deal with it, snowflakes. Really? And how exactly is taking a knee going to tackle that alleged problem?
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| Stirlingsays 21 Dec 20 8.41pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
What you do in your free time on Clapham Common is your business. Joking aside, I believe climate change is the biggest challenge we face now, and will blight the lives of future generations. However if you were Stephen Lawrence's mother, you might feel racism is a bit of an issue too. Bear in mind where this started - my father in law went to college in the South of the US where there was still racial segregation in the 1960s. Taking the knee is a yank phenomenon but there is certainly enough racism, even today, in blighty, to justify this act before Prem games. Deal with it, snowflakes. How about Kriss Donald's mother? Does she think it's a bit of a problem. How about all the faceless whites killed by blacks? More racism comes via self hatred from you lot against whites than from whites against anyone else. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Dec 2020 8.42pm)
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 9.18pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Just type it again. Won’t take longer than a couple of minutes. Oh, the ‘’can’t be &rsed’’ excuse. I find it particularly insulting to be asked to repeat yourself in a text conversation, the answer is there if you wish to be bothered to look/remember. But you're not, so I'm not going to bother repeating myself. That and an old boss of mine ingrained in me to not reply to questions where you know people know the answer. Encourages them to think and pay attention.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But what is it they want? What changes to the law? What sort of education do they think we need? What exactly do they want to happen before they end their campaign? You just won't tell us will you. This is like a campaign for world peace. It is bulls***. It has no focus or real aim. It is just a pathetic gesture to satisfy feeble minds. The people who orchestrated this know what it is really about. Profit. I've answered this from my own perspective. But I don't speak for others so you'll have to ask "them" what "they" want, yourself. If you paid attention to anything I've said, I have no interest, involvement or anything else in BLM the organisation. The non-political movement however, is one I support. But please, let's keep going around in circles here.
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cryrst  The garden of England 21 Dec 20 9.39pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
If you have any actual real life black friends, have this conversation with them, the picture you're painting is quite inaccurate. Compared to my viewpoint anyway. The bit about preferencial treatment by the police was particularly funny. Only half of my work colleagues and a couple of neighbours but as I said dont let facts affect your opinion of me. What bits are incorrect and the police bit is true btw. Look at the aggro for stopping the mp who in the end went to jail and the athlete who bitched and edited the video. That's gone quiet as well. Compare that to the effort and time spent on the court case tr stood outside.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Dec 20 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I've answered this from my own perspective. But I don't speak for others so you'll have to ask "them" what "they" want, yourself. If you paid attention to anything I've said, I have no interest, involvement or anything else in BLM the organisation. The non-political movement however, is one I support. But please, let's keep going around in circles here. So what you are basically saying is that you don't actually have any idea what the campaign wants to achieve. I don't think you or anyone else who supports taking a knee has any clue what it aims to do other than ruin football with wishy washy politics.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 9.49pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Only half of my work colleagues and a couple of neighbours but as I said dont let facts affect your opinion of me. What bits are incorrect and the police bit is true btw. Look at the aggro for stopping the mp who in the end went to jail and the athlete who bitched and edited the video. That's gone quiet as well. Compare that to the effort and time spent on the court case tr stood outside. Your post referred to a "he". Which, if this was referring to me, is inaccurate and you can't say otherwise, because you know sod all about me But please have this exact conversation with your neighbours and work colleagues, I don't believe you'd be so brazen with this opinion with real life black people, that you have any sort of healthy relationship with anyway Edited by madcap_v2 (21 Dec 2020 9.55pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Dec 20 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Your post referred to a "he". Which, if this was referring to me, is accurate and you can't say otherwise, because you know sod all about me But please have this exact conversation with your neighbours and work colleagues, I don't believe you'd be so brazen with this opinion with real life black people, that you have any sort of healthy relationship with anyway So we should be scared of Black people?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Dec 20 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I find it particularly insulting to be asked to repeat yourself in a text conversation, the answer is there if you wish to be bothered to look/remember. But you're not, so I'm not going to bother repeating myself. That and an old boss of mine ingrained in me to not reply to questions where you know people know the answer. Encourages them to think and pay attention. Many of us on here are asked to repeat or have to repeat what we’ve said, but you won’t. It took you longer to reply to all the people on here saying you won’t than if you just did.
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| cryrst The garden of England 21 Dec 20 9.53pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Your post referred to a "he". Which, if this was referring to me, is accurate and you can't say otherwise, because you know sod all about me But please have this exact conversation with your neighbours and work colleagues, I don't believe you'd be so brazen with this opinion with real life black people, that you have any sort of healthy relationship with anyway I know you think blm is the way forwards.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 9.54pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So what you are basically saying is that you don't actually have any idea what the campaign wants to achieve. I don't think you or anyone else who supports taking a knee has any clue what it aims to do other than ruin football with wishy washy politics. I've already answered it buddy A random thought I had from watching the dross served up as football on Saturday; the Black Lives Matter lettering on the banners used by the club was in the club's own font and branding. Surely if they were in support of a political party, they'd use the font and branding of that party?
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| cryrst The garden of England 21 Dec 20 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Your post referred to a "he". Which, if this was referring to me, is accurate and you can't say otherwise, because you know sod all about me But please have this exact conversation with your neighbours and work colleagues, I don't believe you'd be so brazen with this opinion with real life black people, that you have any sort of healthy relationship with anyway Having an open conversation about racism with a black person doesnt make you brazen. It allows my opinion to be heard by someone who doesnt where ear defenders! And that's the point really isnt it, shut down an opinion you dont agree with.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Many of us on here are asked to repeat or have to repeat what we’ve said, but you won’t. It took you longer to reply to all the people on here saying you won’t than if you just did. Yeah I prefer to keep repeating myself to say that I won't repeat myself.
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| cryrst The garden of England 21 Dec 20 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I've already answered it buddy A random thought I had from watching the dross served up as football on Saturday; the Black Lives Matter lettering on the banners used by the club was in the club's own font and branding. Surely if they were in support of a political party, they'd use the font and branding of that party? Straws clutching at.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 21 Dec 20 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So we should be scared of Black people? No. More like distinguishing between "pub talk" internet forum posts and real life conversation. Genuinely interested if these are views that would be proudly shared with neighbours and work colleagues. Lovely attempt to try and put words in my mouth though, very transparent.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Dec 20 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
No. More like distinguishing between "pub talk" internet forum posts and real life conversation. Genuinely interested if these are views that would be proudly shared with neighbours and work colleagues. Lovely attempt to try and put words in my mouth though, very transparent. Well, I get what you mean, and I suppose we all try not to offend other people, but how is what any of us have said here offensive? Anyone getting offended by that has issues.
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Teddy Eagle  21 Dec 20 10.11pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
What you do in your free time on Clapham Common is your business. Joking aside, I believe climate change is the biggest challenge we face now, and will blight the lives of future generations. However if you were Stephen Lawrence's mother, you might feel racism is a bit of an issue too. Bear in mind where this started - my father in law went to college in the South of the US where there was still racial segregation in the 1960s. Taking the knee is a yank phenomenon but there is certainly enough racism, even today, in blighty, to justify this act before Prem games. Deal with it, snowflakes. And what is your role in addressing the situation?
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