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Pussay Patrol Flag 13 Nov 18 3.19pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

It's down to who has to stump up for the pay rises? The business owner(s) or the tax payer – ie all of US!

If a business has a large debt, it certainly wouldn't be sensible to hand out pay rises to staff (TfL).

Probably doesn't have a choice, they could call a strike or lose staff

I'm sure if an employer could pay staff 1p they would!

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 18 3.36pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Good for the working class.

Bad for large corporations.

Whose side are you on?

I don't think that is true, low wages equals low productivity and ours is abysmal.

The CIPD report said that wages were not expected to rise by more than 2%, less than inflation, by September 2019.

Wages have been depressed so long.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Nov 18 3.42pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

It's down to who has to stump up for the pay rises? The business owner(s) or the tax payer – ie all of US!

If a business has a large debt, it certainly wouldn't be sensible to hand out pay rises to staff (TfL).

You would have to ask Boris why he did it

I was wondering if when he originally struck the deal there was some form of quid pro quo. Historically TFL had agreed not to make any redundancies and it had lots of people sitting at home on pay but not working. Not the most accommodating Union.

 

dannyboy1978 Flag 13 Nov 18 6.03pm

BBC News - Wages show fastest rise in almost a decade
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So remainers, would you call this good news?

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Nov 18 6.08pm

BBC is reporting a deal is done and the Maybot is now in overdrive to convince the cabinet.

[Link]

I wonder if in 30years time we will find out that this deal was done months ago and was held back for political reasons? Chances are I wont be around so I have to rely on you youngsters to cry foul.

 


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thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 13 Nov 18 6.12pm

hurrah apparently we have a deal!! or do we??? or am I so bored s**tless with this all I really dont care anymore

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 18 6.21pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

BBC News - Wages show fastest rise in almost a decade
[Link]

So remainers, would you call this good news?

However, the ONS warned that real wage growth was below the 2015 level.

The unemployment total went up for the first time this year, rising by 21,000 in the same period to 1.38 million.

Wages are not expected to rise by more than 2% by September next year.

Less than inflation, and for the 10th year running.

And so harmful to productivity, our biggest problem IMO.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Nov 18 7.03pm

Here is the Prime Minsiter's statement on the matter

"This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper "

Well I suspect that the Prime Minster has managed to unite the country Remain or Brexit I think we are all going to hate the deal.

Just listening to the media and most folk who claim to be in the know think May has no chance of getting this through Parliament.

I would love to know what the EU really think. If they never wanted a deal then well played because Mrs May will take the blame for this not them. If they do want a deal they have miscalculated. Unless she pulls off a miracle Mrs May is toast and the new PM may not be a Remainer in which case the EU may regret not offering May a better deal in the first place.

Edited by Badger11 (13 Nov 2018 7.35pm)

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 18 7.45pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Here is the Prime Minsiter's statement on the matter

"This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Hitler, and here is the paper "

Well I suspect that the Prime Minster has managed to unite the country Remain or Brexit I think we are all going to hate the deal.

Just listening to the media and most folk who claim to be in the know think May has no chance of getting this through Parliament.

I would love to know what the EU really think. If they never wanted a deal then well played because Mrs May will take the blame for this not them. If they do want a deal they have miscalculated. Unless she pulls off a miracle Mrs May is toast and the new PM may not be a Remainer in which case the EU may regret not offering May a better deal in the first place.

Edited by Badger11 (13 Nov 2018 7.35pm)

So Mrs May could be doing a good job for remain in limiting the damage to almost nothing and in fact even more closely aligned to the EU.

The tories and the EU, it will never end, next March is just the start.


 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 13 Nov 18 9.15pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

You would have to ask Boris why he did it

I was wondering if when he originally struck the deal there was some form of quid pro quo. Historically TFL had agreed not to make any redundancies and it had lots of people sitting at home on pay but not working. Not the most accommodating Union.

Boris shouldn't have agreed it but he wouldn't take on the bullying unions and their threats.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Nov 18 9.37pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Boris shouldn't have agreed it but he wouldn't take on the bullying unions and their threats.

I wouldn't knock him for that.

They are in an almost uniquely powerful situation and it would have been tilting at windmills.

Don't forget they forced a bonus through for the Olympics too.

 

.TUX. Flag 13 Nov 18 9.46pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

(Nicely dealt with by Stirling).

Your stance on why 'the bloc' are seeking (yet more!) assistance would be interesting.

The floor is yours bud.

No response so far but the floor is still open 'Pussaaaaaaaaaay'.
I can't think why you've chosen to be silent on this issue

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 14 Nov 18 7.52am

Originally posted by .TUX.

No response so far but the floor is still open 'Pussaaaaaaaaaay'.
I can't think why you've chosen to be silent on this issue

I don't know the point your trying to make, quantative easing?

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Nov 18 7.54am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I don't know the point your trying to make, quantative easing?

I noticed your comment on the Khan thread that people on hol back lower wages and bigger corporate profits. Can you elaborate?

‘The good old race to the bottom

Does make me laugh these people on here who argue how we should be paid less and companies should keep more of their money’

[Link]

Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Nov 2018 7.57am)

 


COYP

Pussay Patrol Flag 14 Nov 18 8.08am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I noticed your comment on the Khan thread that people on hol back lower wages and bigger corporate profits. Can you elaborate?

‘The good old race to the bottom

Does make me laugh these people on here who argue how we should be paid less and companies should keep more of their money’

[Link]

Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Nov 2018 7.57am)

Can you keep to the same threads otherwise we mix up debates

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Nov 18 8.11am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Can you keep to the same threads otherwise we mix up debates

You brought in another subject to the debate.

Which thread would you prefer?

Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Nov 2018 8.12am)

 


COYP

Stirlingsays Flag 14 Nov 18 10.59am

Originally posted by Badger11

BBC is reporting a deal is done and the Maybot is now in overdrive to convince the cabinet.

[Link]

I wonder if in 30years time we will find out that this deal was done months ago and was held back for political reasons? Chances are I wont be around so I have to rely on you youngsters to cry foul.

Snap.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 14 Nov 18 11.59am

[Link]

Think you will enjoy this one....

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 14 Nov 18 12.10pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Snap.

This isn't even going to get past the cabinet, let alone Parliament.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Nov 18 12.11pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

This isn't even going to get past the cabinet, let alone Parliament.


Buckle up.....it's going to be one hell of a ride.

But I think you're right....ultimately there is probably no consensus large enough for anyone view to succeed easily.....It's up for grabs and I have little idea what will happen.

But whatever happens, there will be political blood on the floor.


Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2018 12.19pm)

 


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