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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 21 6.42pm
Originally posted by JRW2 Oh, for goodness sake loosen up a bit. You take some of these posts - and yourself - far too seriously. I am perfectly loose, thanks. Had a good game of bowls this morning, my first loss of the winter season, but still enjoyable. Then a long walk with my dog in the beautiful Cornish countryside, with views down the river. Lots of bird life and peace. Who could be tight with that? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 21 6.42pm

Originally posted by JRW2

Oh, for goodness sake loosen up a bit. You take some of these posts - and yourself - far too seriously.

I am perfectly loose, thanks. Had a good game of bowls this morning, my first loss of the winter season, but still enjoyable. Then a long walk with my dog in the beautiful Cornish countryside, with views down the river. Lots of bird life and peace. Who could be tight with that?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 21 6.45pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Sense of humour by pass. When others just treat such comments as a joke, then maybe I will too. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 21 6.45pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Sense of humour by pass.

When others just treat such comments as a joke, then maybe I will too.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 21 7.00pm
Originally posted by cryrst How many and which status of people will actually care? I've said before people worry about themselves and this does absolutely nothing to negate their lives. Move on. We all ought to care. If it was a left wing government, or even a local authority, doing the same then the right-wing tabloids would be all over it, whipping up the anger. We NEED the BBC to be impartial. That applies whatever your personal world view might be. Determining whether it is, or not, must not be allowed to be in the hands of any politician. It must be independently assessed. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 21 7.00pm

Originally posted by cryrst

How many and which status of people will actually care?
I've said before people worry about themselves and this does absolutely nothing to negate their lives. Move on.

We all ought to care. If it was a left wing government, or even a local authority, doing the same then the right-wing tabloids would be all over it, whipping up the anger.

We NEED the BBC to be impartial. That applies whatever your personal world view might be. Determining whether it is, or not, must not be allowed to be in the hands of any politician. It must be independently assessed.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

cryrst The garden of England 07 Nov 21 9.03pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We all ought to care. If it was a left wing government, or even a local authority, doing the same then the right-wing tabloids would be all over it, whipping up the anger. We NEED the BBC to be impartial. That applies whatever your personal world view might be. Determining whether it is, or not, must not be allowed to be in the hands of any politician. It must be independently assessed. You have reached a place in life where you have time to care about things like this. Many care about their issues and when they get to a point that the BBC is more important than food, a roof and living I'm sure they will.

cryrst

The garden of England 07 Nov 21 9.03pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We all ought to care. If it was a left wing government, or even a local authority, doing the same then the right-wing tabloids would be all over it, whipping up the anger.

You have reached a place in life where you have time to care about things like this. Many care about their issues and when they get to a point that the BBC is more important than food, a roof and living I'm sure they will.

The Dolphin 07 Nov 21 10.31pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Don't be silly. I loath the extreme left every bit as much as the extreme right. There are those here, who most would regard as holding some pretty hard right views, who openly claim that anyone holding a political opinion that is even a tad more socially "liberal" than their own is a raving "lefty", and they are just conservatives. It's not my understanding of what true conservatism is. We agree on one thing at least - extremism of any persuasion is unpleasant and not what is required!

The Dolphin

07 Nov 21 10.31pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Don't be silly. I loath the extreme left every bit as much as the extreme right.

There are those here, who most would regard as holding some pretty hard right views, who openly claim that anyone holding a political opinion that is even a tad more socially "liberal" than their own is a raving "lefty", and they are just conservatives.

It's not my understanding of what true conservatism is.

We agree on one thing at least - extremism of any persuasion is unpleasant and not what is required!

JRW2 Dulwich 08 Nov 21 5.20pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am perfectly loose, thanks. Had a good game of bowls this morning, my first loss of the winter season, but still enjoyable. Then a long walk with my dog in the beautiful Cornish countryside, with views down the river. Lots of bird life and peace. Who could be tight with that? Self-satisfied or what? Not an attractive quality.

JRW2

Dulwich 08 Nov 21 5.20pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Self-satisfied or what? Not an attractive quality.

BlueJay UK 08 Nov 21 5.25pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin We agree on one thing at least - extremism of any persuasion is unpleasant and not what is required! Indeed. That shouldn't need reiterating, but unfortunately - and bizarrely - it does.

BlueJay

UK 08 Nov 21 5.25pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

We agree on one thing at least - extremism of any persuasion is unpleasant and not what is required!

Indeed. That shouldn't need reiterating, but unfortunately - and bizarrely - it does.

BlueJay UK 08 Nov 21 5.28pm
As for the Beeb, I know a handful of people who don't bother with a license, and not for particularly ideological reasons. So I'd say that if someone proudly disagrees with it, go that route. They will send letters, knock at the door occasionally, which of course is madness, but you'll be living your principles at least.

BlueJay

UK 08 Nov 21 5.28pm

As for the Beeb, I know a handful of people who don't bother with a license, and not for particularly ideological reasons. So I'd say that if someone proudly disagrees with it, go that route. They will send letters, knock at the door occasionally, which of course is madness, but you'll be living your principles at least.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Nov 21 6.28pm
Originally posted by BlueJay As for the Beeb, I know a handful of people who don't bother with a license, and not for particularly ideological reasons. So I'd say that if someone proudly disagrees with it, go that route. They will send letters, knock at the door occasionally, which of course is madness, but you'll be living your principles at least. I think that attitude to be profoundly wrong. Most of us believe that there are things that need to be changed, so campaigning is perfectly reasonable. Disobeying the law is not, though. Down that road lies anarchy. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 08 Nov 21 6.28pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I think that attitude to be profoundly wrong. Most of us believe that there are things that need to be changed, so campaigning is perfectly reasonable. Disobeying the law is not, though. Down that road lies anarchy.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

BlueJay UK 08 Nov 21 6.46pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I think that attitude to be profoundly wrong. Most of us believe that there are things that need to be changed, so campaigning is perfectly reasonable. Disobeying the law is not, though. Down that road lies anarchy. I'm not advising people to disobey the law, rather suggesting that they should stop watching TV if they don't want to pay the license fee. I certainly think that anyone enjoying or watching the BBC should pay for a license fee. Beyond that if someone doesn't watch it, but feasibility is able to do so, I guess that's more of a grey area.

BlueJay

UK 08 Nov 21 6.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I'm not advising people to disobey the law, rather suggesting that they should stop watching TV if they don't want to pay the license fee.

I certainly think that anyone enjoying or watching the BBC should pay for a license fee. Beyond that if someone doesn't watch it, but feasibility is able to do so, I guess that's more of a grey area.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Nov 21 6.54pm
Originally posted by BlueJay I'm not advising people to disobey the law, rather suggesting that they should stop watching TV if they don't want to pay the license fee. I certainly think that anyone enjoying or watching the BBC should pay for a license fee. Beyond that if someone doesn't watch it, but feasibility is able to do so, I guess that's more of a grey area. You need a licence to watch any TV. Get rid of the sets and no-one will bother you. Possess the capacity and you invite scrutiny. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 08 Nov 21 6.54pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I'm not advising people to disobey the law, rather suggesting that they should stop watching TV if they don't want to pay the license fee.

I certainly think that anyone enjoying or watching the BBC should pay for a license fee. Beyond that if someone doesn't watch it, but feasibility is able to do so, I guess that's more of a grey area.

You need a licence to watch any TV. Get rid of the sets and no-one will bother you. Possess the capacity and you invite scrutiny.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Teddy Eagle 08 Nov 21 6.59pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You need a licence to watch any TV. Get rid of the sets and no-one will bother you. Possess the capacity and you invite scrutiny. Not if you watch programmes on catch up or on demand. Excluding those on the BBC of course.

Teddy Eagle

08 Nov 21 6.59pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You need a licence to watch any TV. Get rid of the sets and no-one will bother you. Possess the capacity and you invite scrutiny.

Not if you watch programmes on catch up or on demand. Excluding those on the BBC of course.

BlueJay UK 08 Nov 21 7.06pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You need a licence to watch any TV. Get rid of the sets and no-one will bother you. Possess the capacity and you invite scrutiny. A couple of people I know have Netflix and play console games etc, but don't have the TV connected other than via the Internet (or do not watch BBC or use BBC services online). I'm unsure of the precise legality of this, but morally and ethically in this instance I do not view any issue with them not paying a license where they have explained the situation. If anything it would be unethical to charge them for a service they don't use. As with anything in life, common sense should lead the way.

BlueJay

UK 08 Nov 21 7.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You need a licence to watch any TV. Get rid of the sets and no-one will bother you. Possess the capacity and you invite scrutiny.

A couple of people I know have Netflix and play console games etc, but don't have the TV connected other than via the Internet (or do not watch BBC or use BBC services online). I'm unsure of the precise legality of this, but morally and ethically in this instance I do not view any issue with them not paying a license where they have explained the situation. If anything it would be unethical to charge them for a service they don't use.

As with anything in life, common sense should lead the way.

dreamwaverider London 08 Nov 21 7.18pm
I assume most players would take the view, if you can fool them and get away with it then do so. That is the attitude that nowadays prevails incessantly throughout football. A fine example being Wolves on Saturday. Anyone would have thought we were at a hospital. It was pathetic watching their horseplay.

dreamwaverider

London 08 Nov 21 7.18pm

I assume most players would take the view, if you can fool them and get away with it then do so. That is the attitude that nowadays prevails incessantly throughout football. A fine example being Wolves on Saturday. Anyone would have thought we were at a hospital. It was pathetic watching their horseplay.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Nov 21 8.21pm
Originally posted by BlueJay A couple of people I know have Netflix and play console games etc, but don't have the TV connected other than via the Internet (or do not watch BBC or use BBC services online). I'm unsure of the precise legality of this, but morally and ethically in this instance I do not view any issue with them not paying a license where they have explained the situation. If anything it would be unethical to charge them for a service they don't use. As with anything in life, common sense should lead the way. They are fine. I should have said "live" TV and anything from the BBC. Non BBC catch up and non-live streaming is OK, it seems. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 08 Nov 21 8.21pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

As with anything in life, common sense should lead the way.

They are fine. I should have said "live" TV and anything from the BBC. Non BBC catch up and non-live streaming is OK, it seems.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays 24 Nov 21 2.32am
Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

24 Nov 21 2.32am

Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures.

[Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Badger11 Beckenham 24 Nov 21 8.11am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures. [Link] I still haven't seen it but there again I don't watch BBC or Sky news. I don't understand Andrew Neil complaining that it is like Fox News I think most of us before it launched assumed that was what they were aiming for otherwise what would be the point? One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 24 Nov 21 8.11am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures.

[Link]

I still haven't seen it but there again I don't watch BBC or Sky news.

I don't understand Andrew Neil complaining that it is like Fox News I think most of us before it launched assumed that was what they were aiming for otherwise what would be the point?

One more point

Stirlingsays 24 Nov 21 12.08pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I still haven't seen it but there again I don't watch BBC or Sky news. I don't understand Andrew Neil complaining that it is like Fox News I think most of us before it launched assumed that was what they were aiming for otherwise what would be the point? Andrew Neil has lost a lot of credibility on the right over this. He's embarrassed himself over the BBC trying to get his old job back....if he could kneel he would. That Question Time appearance shocked me. But as Robin Aitken said of him he's just as much a social liberal as a conservative and Andrew Neil was always the BBC's idea of an acceptable Conservativism......which has been advancing leftwards for decades now.....while its grass roots hasn't moved much at all. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2021 12.13pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

24 Nov 21 12.08pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I still haven't seen it but there again I don't watch BBC or Sky news.

I don't understand Andrew Neil complaining that it is like Fox News I think most of us before it launched assumed that was what they were aiming for otherwise what would be the point?

Andrew Neil has lost a lot of credibility on the right over this.

He's embarrassed himself over the BBC trying to get his old job back....if he could kneel he would. That Question Time appearance shocked me.

But as Robin Aitken said of him he's just as much a social liberal as a conservative and Andrew Neil was always the BBC's idea of an acceptable Conservativism......which has been advancing leftwards for decades now.....while its grass roots hasn't moved much at all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2021 12.13pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 24 Nov 21 12.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures. [Link] I'm not surprised. GB News takes on current affairs head on. It is far more in line with the opinions of the average thinking adult. It does not pander to the student mentality or activism. It has presenters of all colours making sensible and honest opinions which don't adhere to a woke script.

Hrolf The Ganger

24 Nov 21 12.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures.

[Link]

I'm not surprised. GB News takes on current affairs head on. It is far more in line with the opinions of the average thinking adult.

It does not pander to the student mentality or activism. It has presenters of all colours making sensible and honest opinions which don't adhere to a woke script.

PalazioVecchio south pole 24 Nov 21 12.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures. [Link] i bet that is more to do with legions of viewers leaving the BBC / Sky ? only a dinosaur watches the evening News to try to keep informed the BBC are so woke that their current affairs programmes now look like a Chris Morris joke. Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Nov 2021 12.44pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 24 Nov 21 12.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Apparently Farage and Brazier over at GB News are starting to overtake both Sky and BBC evening news figures.

[Link]

i bet that is more to do with legions of viewers leaving the BBC / Sky ?

only a dinosaur watches the evening News to try to keep informed

the BBC are so woke that their current affairs programmes now look like a Chris Morris joke.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Nov 2021 12.44pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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