Fair post, I don't diagree with any of it.

La la la your mum

What, you mean apart from all those who said if you don’t actively support BLM then you are by definition a racist or had you forgotten about that part of the campaign?

Fair. And you don't have to apologise on the behalf of idiots. What I'm saying is recent political events/shifts such as Brexit, Boris, Trump, BLM protests, anti-BLM protests have given the vocal idiotic minority a louder voice.

I don't think there is a single person who doesn't want to see terrorism erradicated.

La la la your mum

To my knowledge, no-one has said that. Myself, and others have suggested that if you actively boo taking the knee before a game, you are likely to be thought of as a racist.

I don't actively support gay rights but no-one has ever suggested that I am homophobic. If I booed at a Gay Rights event then people would assume I was homophobic.

You seem intent on being a victim. How you are perceived by others is a reflection of your words and actions. They are both under your control.

If you don't want to be thought of as a racist (rightly or wrongly), don't make statements or carry out actions that are likely to be considered racist.

I wasn't aware of that and it is clearly wrong.

My thoughts are to do with this thread and the overt booing of our players (and the opposition) taking the knee before a game.

Women have held extremely important roles in espionage in the past. It would be interesting to see how some of the more hard line feminist groups approach the matter.

Diversity amongst the workforce certainly brought in a skill set and an approach to work that many males wouldnt have been able to use to deliver success.

He’s missed many points. He is indeed, pointless

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Fantastic, insightful post there. Cheers mate.

La la la your mum

The sooner people stop worrying how people like yourself think the better for the rest of society in general.

The left talk about 'inclusion' but the reality is that they exclude.

I was watching black and foreign players kick a football for Palace for decades and there was never any real issues...not that I saw.

But as soon as the far left have their politics become the mainstream all of a sudden anyone who complains about it infecting football is a racist.

Choose the centre one and spin.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

No fair enough and I’m not being deliberatively provocative so I’ll emphasise this is my perspective as opposed to claiming it as fact.

Whilst those events may have been impactful yes, what i see is a massive shift to left wing identity politics consuming the nation. It has become inescapable and whilst not picking on any particular issue it is starting to generally p!ss people off, the constant bombardment. Haven’t seen it mentioned too much but I’d suggest this is partly behind opposition of the kneeling before every single game, it’s constantly shoved down throats and people are getting tired if not sick of it.

Not only that, but battle lines are being drawn, I’d say most definitely from the left, which insists people are either on one side or another. Therefore, I think we’re seeing and will continue to see a lot of centrally swimming people being shoved or completely swept to the right. Even if they do not directly choose that box they certainly will be categorised as such by any minor deviation from the absolute narrative.

So whilst your suggested events and point is most probably correct, I would suggest that the minority will continue to rise in numbers and become more aggressive (an offensive defence if you will) as a result of what we’re (or I am) seeing to be a very aggressive and growing extreme left wing agenda.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!